papazoid Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) To date, the Patriots are one of only five teams in the league that hasn’t fumbled on a running play this year geez, i thought they owed less fumbling to deflated balls ?? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/15/patriots-quietly-have-the-nfls-most-effective-running-game/ Edited January 5, 2016 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Dion Lewis fumbled twice in his first two games. I guess they were on pass plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Dion Lewis fumbled twice in his first two games. I guess they were on pass plays?and Brady fumbled vs the Bills. And they pass like 80 percent of the time. They have only played 4 games, it's not like it proves anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 not enough body of work to draw any conclusions yet. Will cold and rain make a difference? snow? like other sports both teams should play with the same ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 has anybody double checked the air pressure in the footballs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Why the 'running play' qualifier? Might as well put a "Misleading Stat Alert!" tag on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The Patriots are one of only five teams in the league that hasn’t fumbled on a running play this year geez, i thought they owed less fumbling to deflated balls ?? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/15/patriots-quietly-have-the-nfls-most-effective-running-game/ geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Why the 'running play' qualifier? Might as well put a "Misleading Stat Alert!" tag on this thread. As I said in the "look how often they've fumbled" thread, it's still a small sample size so draw conclusions at your own peril. With regards to the disclaimer of rushing plays, I'd venture a running back having secured the ball is a more true indicator of psi than Brady getting chopped (ball coming out regardless of psi) or muffing a kick for example. Like I said, it's waaaay too early but outside of gray, it doesn't seem to be skyrocketing like some posters insisted it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 has anybody double checked the air pressure in the footballs? Exactly. They were exonerated. Why would they stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Exactly. They were exonerated. Why would they stop? They lost $1M and 2 draft picks, they weren't exonerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 colts better be ready for payback sunday night. bet NE runs up the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Can Mario Williams please knock Gronkowski on his ars in the first three plays jamming him at the LOS. Gronk is tough, but he is not Super Mario. I'd rather take him out and blitz with a safety or CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Exactly. They were exonerated. Why would they stop? No, they were not exonerated. The judge just ruled that The League was too heavy-handed in doling out the punishment to Brady (before going off to join Robert Kraft at a shee-shee dinner party in the Hamptons). Court is adjourned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 As I said in the "look how often they've fumbled" thread, it's still a small sample size so draw conclusions at your own peril. With regards to the disclaimer of rushing plays, I'd venture a running back having secured the ball is a more true indicator of psi than Brady getting chopped (ball coming out regardless of psi) or muffing a kick for example. Like I said, it's waaaay too early but outside of gray, it doesn't seem to be skyrocketing like some posters insisted it would. Then note how many NE fumbles were strip sacks of the QB this year and in previous years. Do likewise for other teams when comparing. A WR or QB with the ball tucked away should absolutely count. Ignoring those fumble - especially for a team that runs so little - is clearly misleading through intent, bias or stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzu Bill Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 geez what the heck...was there ever an explanation for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 the Colts are already sipping their warm milk and curling up in their blankees in anticipation of the ass kicking that is coming. As much as I hate New England (and I do) and as much as every TD Brady throws is one closer to the all-time record (which he wants) I almost don't mind the idea of seeing them drop 80 on the wimpy colts this weekend, just because the colts have failed time and time again to stop them and haven't even shown up in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The Patriots are one of only five teams in the league that hasn’t fumbled on a running play this year geez, i thought they owed less fumbling to deflated balls ?? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/15/patriots-quietly-have-the-nfls-most-effective-running-game/ Well some are trying to put air into the P*ts balls using their lips. Thanks for effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Then note how many NE fumbles were strip sacks of the QB this year and in previous years. Do likewise for other teams when comparing. A WR or QB with the ball tucked away should absolutely count. Ignoring those fumble - especially for a team that runs so little - is clearly misleading through intent, bias or stupidity. have at it - it wasnt some hard hitting advanced stat. if someone is tracking "type of fumbles" situationally, it could be interesting but im guessing its not easy access like "rushing fumbles" which kind of acts as some bar napkin subsitute. i likewise wasnt defending as some end all be all stat. and just an FYI... its not like NE is wildly out of line for attempts. 3 more rushes per game would put them dead center of the league in carries per game. Edited October 15, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The Patriots have led the league mostly the past 10 years in least fumbles. The don't fumble, they catch everything, their receivers go 5 yards on 3rd and 4, and they don't take stupid penalties. It's why they win, and we can learn from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 have at it - it wasnt some hard hitting advanced stat. if someone is tracking "type of fumbles" situationally, it could be interesting but im guessing its not easy access like "rushing fumbles" which kind of acts as some bar napkin subsitute. i likewise wasnt defending as some end all be all stat. and just an FYI... its not like NE is wildly out of line for attempts. 3 more rushes per game would put them dead center of the league in carries per game. Don't try to be reasonable. You are supposed to rage and rail against the Patriots, not note when attacks against them seem exaggerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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