PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Why were Cassel's passes so short when TT and EJs were much longer? If it was the game plan, why did it change when Tyrod and EJ played? Or was it because Cassel can't make the same throws Tyrod and EJ can make? If so, why play a QB that limits your offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) What a difference having Roman and Kromer here . This is my opinion too. People who say coaching doesn't matter on today's nfl are being proven wrong by the bills. Edited August 30, 2015 by BlueFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This is my opinion too. People who say coaching doesn't matter on today's nfl are being proven wrong by the bills. 100% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 In my mind, EJ has solidified his job as the #2 QB, behind T-Mobile. If the competition were in a vacuum I would agree however EJ's 14 starts, albeit them a downward slope under the direction of a offensive moron, mean something here as well. He at least knows what being the opening day starter feels like. After all he has done it twice. I will be fine with Tyrod but for some reason I think EJ gets it and shows us why we picked him in round one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Its TT for me because he brings the most for the defense to worry about. He has shown that he can throw from the pocket and comes from a strong organization that has clearly been developing him. EJ is a strong number 2 and appears to have made some improvement. I want to see more. These guys offer the upside, Cassel is an emergency guy we can win a couple weeks with if we have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 ABC It's hard to argue a perfect passer rating with 2 TD passes (one for a gazillion yards - Rex Ryan) of 158.3 Vic C Summation: Now the Bills really do have a difficult decision to make. EJ Manuel powered his way back into the competition with a strong performance highlighted by two long touchdown throws. Tyrod Taylor did a superb job of moving the offense and ran for a TD. Matt Cassel was, well, Matt Cassel: solid, unspectacular. http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/08/29/the-qb-report-now-the-bills-really-do-have-a-tough-decision-to-make/ . EJ is a strong number 2 and appears to have made some improvement. I want to see more. These guys offer the upside, Cassel is an emergency guy we can win a couple weeks with if we have too. Did the eye test tell you that? Some improvement? Why were Cassel's passes so short when TT and EJs were much longer? If it was the game plan, why did it change when Tyrod and EJ played? Or was it because Cassel can't make the same throws Tyrod and EJ can make? If so, why play a QB that limits your offense? You are attempting to argue Logic? This is interesting and going strictly by production, which it seems WGR ignores, EJ would be the starter without question: http://www.wgr550.com/Bills-QBs-have-put-in-their-best-work/21911851 Matt Cassel has done absolutely nothing wrong in his two preseason appearances as he’s gone 13-of-15 for 83 yards with no touchdowns and no interceptions. The problem is he’s really made nothing happen. In three games Manuel has gone 20-of-30 for 358 yards and four touchdowns with no interceptions. Taylor’s three games have seen him go 24-of-31 for 236 yards with no touchdowns and no interceptions. What Taylor has brought to the offense is running yards. He has 11 carries for 108 yards and a touchdown. This does not take into consideration all scoring drives which makes the contest a little closer between Manuel and TT, but EJ still holds the lead. For clarity (to those that would argue the TD count() - No TD's is in reference to passing. Which most people understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 For all his faults and limitations EJ potentially brings to the table something 90 % of the QBs in the league cannot: A dynamic vertical threat which alone can soften up the underneath. He has shown signs of bringing it this preseason for sure. As an opposing DB I would be most afraid of being exposed by EJ than he other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 With the vertical threat EJ showed last night, and Romans creative play calling, it could really open things up for huge run gains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I'm going with EJ. He has the best deep ball of the three. This could be a very explosive offense if he continues to progress. I like Tyrod but haven't seen him push it downfield like EJ has. Cassel would be an incredibly gutless choice and would give us zero chance of going deep into the playoffs. Pray to god its anyone but Cassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I still say you platoon EJ and Tyrod depending on situation. They do it for every other position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) This is my opinion too. People who say coaching doesn't matter on today's nfl are being proven wrong by the bills. Not talking about the birdbrains at WGR are you? Edited August 30, 2015 by Billsmovinup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think it should be Taylor, but I'm fine with Manuel. However, why on God's green earth would the Bills cut Cassel? He's been fine, and relatively speaking the Bills have very little money tied up in the qb position. They are under the cap as well, and Pegula clearly isn't hurting for cash. Given injuries, I think it's wise to keep Cassel even if he is the third string qb. Keep the better player, and this team needs three qbs. This is my opinion too. People who say coaching doesn't matter on today's nfl are being proven wrong by the bills. Has anyone ever said that coaching doesn't matter in the nfl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 ABC It's hard to argue a perfect passer rating with 2 TD passes (one for a gazillion yards - Rex Ryan) of 158.3 Vic C Summation: Now the Bills really do have a difficult decision to make. EJ Manuel powered his way back into the competition with a strong performance highlighted by two long touchdown throws. Tyrod Taylor did a superb job of moving the offense and ran for a TD. Matt Cassel was, well, Matt Cassel: solid, unspectacular. http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/08/29/the-qb-report-now-the-bills-really-do-have-a-tough-decision-to-make/ Did the eye test tell you that? Some improvement? Yep! Slow the train down. This guy is not an ALL PRO yet because of a couple good weeks. You are attempting to argue Logic? For clarity (to those that would argue the TD count() - No TD's is in reference to passing. Which most people understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Just saw Buddy Nix in airport. I told him " good draft pick", in reference to EJ Manuel, he said "I told you!" Told y'all him and Whaley was popping champagne yesterday With the vertical threat EJ showed last night, and Romans creative play calling, it could really open things up for huge run gains. It was on display yesterday. Notice the difference with EJ/TT in game versus Cassel. Backs ran for huge chunks with those 2 in game. Not much running room with Cassel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Just saw Buddy Nix in airport. I told him " good draft pick", in reference to EJ Manuel, he said "I told you!" Told y'all him and Whaley was popping champagne yesterday Fine story dadgummit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think the ex-anti-EJ crowd should have to say a little more than "I was wrong" or "I'll eat my crow now". That's all and they can continue posting like nothing ever transpired and they weren't total A***** about it for the entire duration. Same thing about the accountability of local "reporters" with multicapital letters next to their names (e.g. WGR, BN, and others (but I don't want to hurt peoples feelings)) $%^&in' A Bubba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Ej is still.gonna be third string Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Why can't you play 2 QB the way you play 2 RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I see (got to be fair to simms) Do you really think it would be racism if Cassel started? I was actually thinking about this the other day. The receivers have been sounding off in regards to what they like about each QB and we have heard the majority of the comments be in regards to Tyrod and EJ. Cassell seems to be viewed as the Chris Hogan of QB's; a bit short of the first down, a few plays down the field, but generally just dependable and vanilla. Both, oddly enough, are caucasian . Taylor and EJ are exciting, explosive QB's who are more alike with the majority of the receiving corps. They go for the big play, can make moves with their legs and emote a degree of swagger to them. They, like the remaining WR group, are African-American. I don't believe that it matters what your racial background is, but connecting with your peers is a vital aspect of being a QB. If EJ and TT are the better performing QBs at this time, wouldn't it be stupid to start Meh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) For me I love both EJ and Tyrod, however I'll take EJ over Tyrod. He's stronger, taller, and has better pocket presence. Alex Smith was not a good QB until the arrival of Greg Roman. I mean, Alex was tearing it up. I think the plan all along has been to mentally mess with EJ in a way to get him more focused. Think about it. Why spend millions of dollars in QB specialists to work with EJ? Edited August 30, 2015 by JTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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