YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Can you package 12 and 19, trade up, and choose a new owner?ouch! Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disinterested Observer Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Trade the pick to the bills for a fifth and a seventh round pick this year and a fourth next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 It honestly depends on who they get at 12 This is a real post. Cleveland rocks is a great poster here and always contrite and genial. Where do you think the weaknesses are and would Browns go bpa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 This is a real post. Cleveland rocks is a great poster here and always contrite and genial. Where do you think the weaknesses are and would Browns go bpa ? I was being sincere. I think if they land the best available OL at 12, they'll take Gurley or Gordon. With their offense in shambles, I see them trying to build a running game as a foundation for their offense. The receiving class is deep this year, and they can get good talent later in the draft (2nd, 3rd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I presume you need another QB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 if i was cleveland...i would want to trade justin gilbert & the 19th pick in 2015 to Buffalo for Sammy Watkins. if i'm the bills...i say NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Trade them together & get a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'd trade 12 & 19 to get Leonard Williams 3rd or 4th. I think the Titans will likely be the same story as the Bradford-Foles trade, ie they aren't trading the 2nd pick unless they are getting a QB. I do expect the Jags & Raiders to be open to moving back. I think Williams is the clear top position player. Williams & Jameis are my two blue chips from this year. I think the next tier (in no particular order): Mariota, Cooper, Kevin White, Devante Parker, Brandon Scherff, La'el Collins, Fowler, Ray, Beasley, Waynes. People can have other guys they like in that tier, but IMO it's a 12 guy draft at the top. Waynes, the two tackles and the edge rushers aren't glaring needs for the Browns and 12 is a tough spot as you could get one of Cooper / White / Parker or you could get none of them. Consolidate the picks and remove the risk, putting Williams as a day 1 starter on the line. Looking at the draft, I'm really not heartbroken about losing 19. I expect all 12 of the guys I mentioned to be gone by then and realistically I think you can get nearly as good a prospect at 50 as 19. If the Browns do keep the pick, I know it wouldn't be popular with the fans but I'd seriously consider Gurley or Melvin Gordon. I view West as JAG and while Crowell showed some nice flashes, he was still a udfa. I worry they are going to put a heavy burden on West/Crowell and neither guy is in the Gurley/Gordon class. One of those two backs would give the team a difference maker to build the offense around while still having cheap quality depth at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Todd Gurley is the best player in this draft IMO and any team could use him. He is Adrian Peterson like. That would be my pick if I was the Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Well we were hoping you wouldn't be that good and we would be picking in the top 10. NOT fair! Hahaha. Just kidding. I am tired of debating who the Browns should take at 19 with Browns fans so thought I'd ask the original owners of the pick who YOU think we should take! I would list our "needs" but we have holes at pretty much every position. Probably the one area we look decent is in the secondary, though I don't have high hopes for Gilbert to take hold of the other CB spot across from Haden and the guy they signed from GB is past his prime. Also, Grimes is gone. RB is OK too. OK - you are on the clock! Who do you think will be there at 19 that would be BPA for the Browns? P.S. This is the best NFL fan message board out there. It isn't even close! P.S. Part 2 If you don't want to talk about the Browns I apologize. In the past, you all have been so knoweldgeable about all teams, not the case on other boards. I thought since it is your pick anyway, you might have ideas. P.S. part 3 Is there anyone the Browns could pick at 19 this year that would make you regret the trade? I am guessing the answer is "no" but curious. Danny Shelton Edited April 18, 2015 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 How about taking John Football to the Ryan Leaf institute of epic fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'd go with that Sandcastle guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I was being sincere. I think if they land the best available OL at 12, they'll take Gurley or Gordon. With their offense in shambles, I see them trying to build a running game as a foundation for their offense. The receiving class is deep this year, and they can get good talent later in the draft (2nd, 3rd). I thought you gave a thoughtful answer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Ok, the Manziel thing was a low blow. I apologize. I think if you don't go WR at #12 then the pick will be a WR @ #19. So if you all go defense or elsewhere and get a Danny Shelton @ #12 I then think you all turn around and take a WR like Breshad Perriman @ #19. Some may call it a reach, but the guy has 4.2 wheels @ 6'2" 215lbs. You all DEFINITELY need some playmakers on offense. Now, if they choose to take a WR early @ #12 like Devante Parker then I see you all taking Todd Gurley @ #19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) I think it will be hard for Pettine to resist Byron Jones If he is there when you pick in the 2nd. Press cover CB. Edited April 18, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 If you could package those and move up to get Cooper or the WV guy, that would be my choice. You know your D is going to be good and what your O can do with a Gordon. So go get a Gordon that can avoid being suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Would you pick at 12 and at 19, or package the two picks and try to trade up? Not sure how high we would get but for example if it was Amari Cooper or Randy Gregory? Trading out of Watkins to turn around and use the pick to trade up for a wr the next year would be a very Cleveland move. I'll go with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Rocks? Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Trading out of Watkins to turn around and use the pick to trade up for a wr the next year would be a very Cleveland move. I'll go with that one. Farmer Any thoughts on Bud Dupree out of Kentucky? Pettine seems high on him. Also the latest rumor is the Browns are the frontrunner to package 12, 19, and next year's 1st to move to 2 for Mariota. The Browns new QB coach worked with him pre-combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) well it wont be the quarterback some of think we could get at 19? Bulldog this is you Edited April 21, 2015 by CardinalScotts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 i'm guessing Browns take best available RB at 19. At 12 they already took a pass rusher. They wont trade up for Mariota, who is Manziel 2.0 from their perspective, skill-set wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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