Omar Little Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Haven't really paid attention to Revis lately but is he still good? If not this concerns me that Rex is is going after old guys that he knows and still thinks are good. Revis is elite, let alone good. PFF rated him as the fourth-best corner in the league during the regular season and his passer rating against was in the 60s. That's despite facing teams' top receivers week in and week out. He turns opposing QBs into bums when they throw his way, for all intents and purposes. Edited February 1, 2015 by Omar Little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I beg to differ, adding Revis would put our Defense on another stratosphere. Please don't compare Revis to any of our corners just not fair to him. Imagine what type of blitzes we can send when we have a couple of shutdown corners. With the addition of Revis and Kiko this defense won't give up more then 13-14 a gm. Another stratosphere? Really? We have a top 5 defense without Kiko now. Revis is 29yrs old and going to command big money. Our secondary is one of the best in the league now without Revis. This is wasted money. Money that can be spent on fixing things that need to be fixed. Even if we cannot retain Hughes, we still need to find a replacement. Our offense has been a perennial bottom feeder for years and we need to bring in a veteran QB. The concept of working on things that are actually weaknesses seems to be lost on people here. Everybody has heard of Revis though, so that must be a good get. I don't buy it. Our OL sucks. Our QB situation sucks. Our RB and TE spots could use some improvement but hey....lets go buy something we don't need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Not sure how I feel about this. And the Jets may have to bow out since the Pats have filed tampering charges against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'd hate to see us break the bank for him, and I'm afraid that's what it's going to take. Manage the cap wisely, gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) What former Patriot that Belicheat lets go has been worth a damn? Aqib Talib? A healthy Revis/Gilmore guarantees the Bills four wins next year: the AFC South opponents. There are no QB/WR combos in that entire division that could move the ball an inch against a secondary that looks like that. Andrew Luck not play in that division anymore? If we got Julius Thomas and Revis this offseason then hell would freeze over and we would win the superbowl next year. Even without a QB? I'm sorry, I just can't root for the Pats. I think if they were playing the Taliban I'd have to root for the Taliban. Still can't root for the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, D'aesh or the like. Not after what they've done to people. I will however, root for the A-10 Warthog close air support missions and Peshmerga fighters who may or may not be joined by US Forces. Edited February 1, 2015 by BillsVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Another stratosphere? Really? We have a top 5 defense without Kiko now. Revis is 29yrs old and going to command big money. Our secondary is one of the best in the league now without Revis. This is wasted money. Money that can be spent on fixing things that need to be fixed. Even if we cannot retain Hughes, we still need to find a replacement. Our offense has been a perennial bottom feeder for years and we need to bring in a veteran QB. The concept of working on things that are actually weaknesses seems to be lost on people here. Everybody has heard of Revis though, so that must be a good get. I don't buy it. Our OL sucks. Our QB situation sucks. Our RB and TE spots could use some improvement but hey....lets go buy something we don't need. You're not fixing QB this offseason. It's either Manuel or some other flawed option. No use allocating a ton of cap space to that position, considering the lackluster options. The Bills have the cap room to sign Revis and improve in other areas (OL, TE). If they can add one of the best defenders in the game for a semi-palatable contract - which remains to be seen - they should do it, regardless of position. Revis in, McKelvin out transforms a good secondary into an all-world one. A defensive line without Hughes and with the Williams bros and Dareus would more than hold its own. I love Hughes, but it's true. Combining those three with an LB corps whose best player will return, a secondary with Revis, Gilmore, Graham and Williams and a defensive genius (Ryan) at the helm would be magical. Edited February 1, 2015 by Omar Little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I LOVe the idea of adding to this defense.... Just make the D so good that it rivals (or beats) the 85 Bears and we'll be in the playoffs. Rex Ryan+ 85 Bears type defense+ blowing snow and cold in ORchard Park in January= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I said this was going to happen. Revis was going to reunite with Rex. The only reason hey have to let him go is b.c he would cost them $25 million next year. Bills have money for Revis and pressing needs. Thank you for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I dont agree with this Revis thing at all.... We had a top 4 defense last year....our offense was pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Let's buiuld the greatest defense of all freaking time to go with the noise, wind, and cold in January! We have the coach for it, and most of the players. All-time great defenses win Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Another stratosphere? Really? We have a top 5 defense without Kiko now. Revis is 29yrs old and going to command big money. Our secondary is one of the best in the league now without Revis. This is wasted money. Money that can be spent on fixing things that need to be fixed. Even if we cannot retain Hughes, we still need to find a replacement. Our offense has been a perennial bottom feeder for years and we need to bring in a veteran QB. The concept of working on things that are actually weaknesses seems to be lost on people here. Everybody has heard of Revis though, so that must be a good get. I don't buy it. Our OL sucks. Our QB situation sucks. Our RB and TE spots could use some improvement but hey....lets go buy something we don't need. I could not agree more. This is not a pressing need and there are numerous others. I would rather see available cap space spent resigning Hughes and Searcy, and bringing in some real talent on the OL. Thankfully, this is just speculation on Schefter's part, no doubt fueled by "inside info" from Revis' agent trying to pump up his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I like McKelvin, but his presence would become superfluous with Revis in Buffalo. Cutting him saves the Bills a combined $6.8 mill the next two seasons and Revis-Gilmore-Graham would be one of the best CB trios in the game. They wouldn't cut McKelvin. They would trade him. He has value. He could probably get them a 3rd from some team. But I'm not convinced they would trade him. They could move Graham to Free Safety, Keep McKelvin in the 3rd CB spot. Edited February 1, 2015 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Winning the Super Bowl is a "luxury" Let's go be GREAT. I don't want to shoot for 10-6 and a first round loss in New England*. I want to shoot for a Super Bowl parade in downtown Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 You wouldn't cut McKelvin. You would trade him. He has value. He could probably get them a 3rd from some team. He's not bringing back a third. I agree, though, that he should be shopped before cut. As I said, he's done here either way if Revis signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I could not agree more. This is not a pressing need and there are numerous others. I would rather see available cap space spent resigning Hughes and Searcy, and bringing in some real talent on the OL. Thankfully, this is just speculation on Schefter's part, no doubt fueled by "inside info" from Revis' agent trying to pump up his value. Why do you believe they couldn't re-sign Hughes? The cap is going up exponentially the upcoming league year. Say they re-structure Mario's deal, that's even more money added. The Bills don't have to re-up Dareus or Gilmore right this second. They can wait for during the season. Bills can have their cake and eat it too for a little while. He's not bringing back a third. I agree, though, that he should be shopped before cut. As I said, he's done here either way if Revis signs. Why do you think he wouldn't get them a 3rd? McKelvin can play. He's a good CB and a good return man. A couple costly errors here and there doesn't change that dynamic. He makes a lot of plays too in both areas. Edited February 1, 2015 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Winning the Super Bowl is a "luxury" Let's go be GREAT. I don't want to shoot for 10-6 and a first round loss in New England*. I want to shoot for a Super Bowl parade in downtown Buffalo! You have to get to the playoffs before you get to the super bowl You are not going to do that with a crap offense no matter HOW good the defense is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 You have to get to the playoffs before you get to the super bowl You are not going to do that with a crap offense no matter HOW good the defense is Who said the offense had to be crap. Revis does not preclude a good offense. I'm not saying they should sign Revis. But it wouldn't be a bad thing either. I'm sure they have a plan. We should let things play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Why do you think he wouldn't get them a 3rd? McKelvin can play. He's a good CB and a good return man. A couple costly errors here and there doesn't change that dynamic. He makes a lot of plays too in both areas. It's a lofty price for a decent player who's about to turn 30 and only has two years of team control left. I think a late-round pick is a lot likelier than a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Revis over Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I would keep mckelvin. You can never have enough corners. True. But with Robey he may be #5. You could probably get a #4 pick for him. He's way better than 80-90% of fourth round picks. A starting cb who can make plays and return kicks for a #4? Someone would do that. Maybe even a low 3 on a team that thinks they can compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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