C.Biscuit97 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Absolutely. I love Rex, and like you, always kinda liked him. I loved Buddy Ryan. The first response I know of from a Bills player was a simple smily face as a tweet from Stephon Gilmore. He's knows the score. It's going to be funny watching all the Gilmore is a bust eat crow after he is a pro bowler this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Football Outsiders team D rankings for the Jets over Ryan's tenure: 2009 - 1 2010 - 5 2011 - 2 2012 - 9 2013 - 12 2014 - 21 Baltimore FO rankings with Rex as DC 2005 - 6 2006 - 1 2007 - 5 2008 - 2 Anyone see a pattern? The decline with Jets started with the arrival of Idzik. Interestingly, the Bills D was run by a Ryan protege in 2013 and finished #4 (they were #2 this season). Again, great hire. the loss of revis also factored into that. His D relies on CBs who can cover man. Just looked up his career stats and forgot he went down with injury in 2012. Makes sense. Edited January 11, 2015 by TPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Rex is a top 3 defensive coach in all of football. Schwartz or no Schwartz, the D will be really good. The talent makes coaches great here and Ryan is the best coach they will have ever had. Question Rex's offense. It's silly to question him about Defense. He's never had this much talent. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's all on Roman to fix the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 There was a substantial difference in this year's defense. Schwartz did not blitz or gamble. The run defense was substantially better because of it. Last year's defense, Pettine's, was bad against the run because they blitzed so much and when other teams broke through they went for huge chunks of yards and breakaway TDs. Granted, Spikes helped a lot, as did Bradham, as did Graham as the third CB. But Bills players made it a point to say they were much more detailed and much more designed to stop the run. We don't even need Rex's pressure this year. I wouldn't doubt if he let Schwartz run the defense and just helped with game plans and specific situations and a great mind. I'd have to look at the numbers but it seemed to be that the Bills D got progressively worse vs. the run as the season went on. They certainly started the season well but in the 2nd half I don't recall them being particularly stout vs. the run. Also, just because Pettine ran Rex's scheme doesn't mean he ran it like Rex would. Rex's Ds, when they had actual talent, were good vs. the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Jets had drafted 2 Off lineman in rd1 (OT Dbrick Ferguson & OC from Ohio st) and then signed OG franeca and Damien Woody - creating a power running game behind rookie QB Sanchez and they went to AFC champ twice with this. The downfall of Jets was when OL got old and not replaced due to cap issues. Ryans jets also hurt badly by top DT going down with injury each season. I can see us targetting a stud like 49ers OG Iupati in free agency and drafting best power OL thats there in rd2 and then try running behind that. There is no QB out there to majically acquire - San Fran had same problem and solved it by drafting 2 OL in Rd 1 (just as the Jets had done to setup their success) and relied on power run I would expect similar approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'd have to look at the numbers but it seemed to be that the Bills D got progressively worse vs. the run as the season went on. They certainly started the season well but in the 2nd half I don't recall them being particularly stout vs. the run. Also, just because Pettine ran Rex's scheme doesn't mean he ran it like Rex would. Rex's Ds, when they had actual talent, were good vs. the run. They were still much better vs the run than Pettine's defense. However, it has never been an issue for Rex's defenses. Even this year they were pretty stout vs the run they just got gashed against the pass. I'd love Schwartz to stay but not honestly sure about forcing him to run Rex's scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Keep Schwartz. Bring in Roman. Super Bowl!!! The roman signing will be interesting. This year, the niners were trying more than ever to make Kap a pocket passer. Read option was almost obsolete and their running game took a huge step back. Not the same niners offense we're used to watching the last few years. Wonder if that was Romans doing or harbaughs. Could open the door for iupati too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Keep Schwartz. Bring in Roman. Super Bowl!!! The roman signing will be interesting. This year, the niners were trying more than ever to make Kap a pocket passer. Read option was almost obsolete and their running game took a huge step back. Not the same niners offense we're used to watching the last few years. Wonder if that was Romans doing or harbaughs. Could open the door for iupati too. the word is that Harbaugh changed the offense and roman wasn't in a position to override it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 If Schwartz stays, great. If not, who cares? We are getting the best defensive tactician in the NFL as our head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 And what were your thoughts when we lost Pettine and went to Schwartz? Lets all keep in mind that the Bills had the highest payroll on the defensive side of the ball in the NFL. One could argue that given that #4 not so incredibly impressive. Remind us please how many times we forced the Patriots to punt when we played them in Orchard Park giving up 37 points? In December Rex held that same Brady to 17 points in a narrow 17-16 loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boolay Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 .... ... ... ... wow, dismantled the #4 defense already.... switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4 now? I don't get this hire at all. Yes having been used to hiring coaches that no one else wanted for years the fact that a coach who has won on the NFL level and is in demand comes as a shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Rex is a top 3 defensive coach in all of football. Schwartz or no Schwartz, the D will be really good. The talent makes coaches great here and Ryan is the best coach they will have ever had. Question Rex's offense. It's silly to question him about Defense. He's never had this much talent. Give either Ryan or Schwartz top talent and they will have a top defense. But Rex can do more with less. It's interesting that Schwartz identity was formed in the heavily Buddy Ryan-influenced 4 DL front system in TN. Buddy's D was basically a "talent or bust" and that has pretty much been Schwartz track record as a DC. Rex didn't go that way. His approach is more versatile and sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Give either Ryan or Schwartz top talent and they will have a top defense. But Rex can do more with less. It's interesting that Schwartz identity was formed in the heavily Buddy Ryan-influenced 4 DL front system in TN. Buddy's D was basically a "talent or bust" and that has pretty much been Schwartz track record as a DC. Rex didn't go that way. His approach is more versatile and sustainable. Agreed. We are a great fit for Schwartz, but Rex is very adaptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boolay Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 My prediction, Schwartz stays for a year and gets a HC job next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Quarterback. Offensive Line. Offensive Coordinator. Stay focused on what is important and what will get this team to playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 My prediction, Schwartz stays for a year and gets a HC job next year.Yes. 2015 will be his HC part 2 resume builder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's going to be funny watching all the Gilmore is a bust eat crow after he is a pro bowler this year. Gilmore is a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Keep Schwartz. Bring in Roman. Super Bowl!!! The roman signing will be interesting. This year, the niners were trying more than ever to make Kap a pocket passer. Read option was almost obsolete and their running game took a huge step back. Not the same niners offense we're used to watching the last few years. Wonder if that was Romans doing or harbaughs. Could open the door for iupati too. Hopefully, he realizes this and uses it here. Play to your player's strengths. EJ runs a 4.6 40. Also part of the reason for making Kaep a pocket passer is because of his contract and Gabbert was there backup. If EJ is the guy, it should be no holds bar. Give either Ryan or Schwartz top talent and they will have a top defense. But Rex can do more with less. It's interesting that Schwartz identity was formed in the heavily Buddy Ryan-influenced 4 DL front system in TN. Buddy's D was basically a "talent or bust" and that has pretty much been Schwartz track record as a DC. Rex didn't go that way. His approach is more versatile and sustainable. Well said. Gilmore is a bust. Yes. 2015 will be his HC part 2 resume builder. It would be smart for him. No fan base would be happy with Schwartz as head coach this year. But after 2 years of running a top 5 defense? He would be a hot commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Hopefully, he realizes this and uses it here. Play to your player's strengths. EJ runs a 4.6 40. Also part of the reason for making Kaep a pocket passer is because of his contract and Gabbert was there backup. If EJ is the guy, it should be no holds bar. Well said. It would be smart for him. No fan base would be happy with Schwartz as head coach this year. But after 2 years of running a top 5 defense? He would be a hot commodity. If he left for a lateral DC job, odds are he will not have the talent he had here, or even Detroit, and his rep could go from defensive guru to labeled as " he can only make it work with all pros" Atlanta, Chicago, NYG all need def rebuilds. Arizona and Seattle could have openings though after Quinn and Bowles promotions... Edited January 11, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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