Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: That's not the argument though. Yes it is. We will have to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: That's not the argument though. Third and long, Tibs knows that He is incapable of holding an honest argument, yet you keep trying. Added: Quote 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Yes it is. We will have to change And he proves me right again. . Edited September 16, 2019 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/14/2019 at 7:37 AM, Chandemonium said: How will anyone tell the difference compared to normal DC traffic? Also, has anyone pointed out to these activists that by blocking traffic they’re contributing to the problem they’re protesting by keeping more fossil fuel burning cars running for longer than they otherwise would have? I will be very confused about when the new speed bumps were installed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I will be very confused about when the new speed bumps were installed... "I like these new speed bumps. They're squishy. Much easier on the suspension." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: You would be wrong: https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3 U.S. electricity generation by source, amount, and share of total in 20181 Energy source Billion kWh Share of total Total - all sources 4,178 Fossil fuels (total) 2,651 63.5% Natural gas 1,468 35.1% Coal 1,146 27.4% Petroleum (total) 25 0.6% Petroleum liquids 16 0.4% Petroleum coke 9 0.2% Other gases 12 0.3% Nuclear 807 19.3% Renewables (total) 713 17.1% Hydropower 292 7.0% Wind 275 6.6% Biomass (total) 63 1.5% Wood 41 1.0% Landfill gas 11 0.3% Municipal solid waste (biogenic) 7 0.2% Other biomass waste 3 0.1% Solar (total) 67 1.6% Photovoltaic 63 1.5% Solar thermal 4 0.1% Geothermal 17 0.4% Pumped storage hydropower3 -6 -0.1% Other sources 13 0.3% Some terms people may want to educate themselves on: Baseload Generation Reserve Margins Dispatchable/Non-dispatchable sources NERC FERC Electric Reliability Standards Intermittent power generation Peaking power generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe Miner said: Some terms people may want to educate themselves on: Baseload Generation Reserve Margins Dispatchable/Non-dispatchable sources NERC FERC Electric Reliability Standards Intermittent power generation Peaking power generation Innovation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 If you are feeling guilty... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 hours ago, B-Man said: But will they reach a consensus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The Bee is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 AND YET THE PRESS BREATHLESSLY PROMOTES THE NEXT ONE, EVERY TIME: Goose eggs: No climate doomsday warning has come true. The report cites 30 predictions made by experts, government scientists, and global leaders, including former Vice President Al Gore and Britain’s Prince Charles. “More than merely spotlighting the failed predictions, this collection shows that the makers of failed apocalyptic predictions often are individuals holding respected positions in government and science,” said authors Myron Ebell and Steven J. Milloy. “While such predictions have been and continue to be enthusiastically reported by a media eager for sensational headlines, the failures are typically not revisited,” they added. Some examples: 1967 — Stanford University expert Paul Erlich predicted “time of famines” in 1975. 1971 — A top NASA expert predicted an “ice age” by 2021. 1988 — It was predicted that the Maldives would be under water by last year. 2008 — Gore said the Arctic would be free of ice by 2013. 2009 — Charles said there was just 96 months left to save the world. Starting Friday, there is a global climate strike set to last for a week. According to the organizers, “Our house is on fire — let’s act like it. We demand climate justice for everyone.” None of them ever puts their money where their mouth is. In fact, by doing things like buying beachfront mansions, they usually do the opposite. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, B-Man said: AND YET THE PRESS BREATHLESSLY PROMOTES THE NEXT ONE, EVERY TIME: Goose eggs: No climate doomsday warning has come true. The report cites 30 predictions made by experts, government scientists, and global leaders, including former Vice President Al Gore and Britain’s Prince Charles. “More than merely spotlighting the failed predictions, this collection shows that the makers of failed apocalyptic predictions often are individuals holding respected positions in government and science,” said authors Myron Ebell and Steven J. Milloy. “While such predictions have been and continue to be enthusiastically reported by a media eager for sensational headlines, the failures are typically not revisited,” they added. Some examples: 1967 — Stanford University expert Paul Erlich predicted “time of famines” in 1975. 1971 — A top NASA expert predicted an “ice age” by 2021. 1988 — It was predicted that the Maldives would be under water by last year. 2008 — Gore said the Arctic would be free of ice by 2013. 2009 — Charles said there was just 96 months left to save the world. Starting Friday, there is a global climate strike set to last for a week. According to the organizers, “Our house is on fire — let’s act like it. We demand climate justice for everyone.” None of them ever puts their money where their mouth is. In fact, by doing things like buying beachfront mansions, they usually do the opposite. . The only thing that separates the climate change extremists from all the apocalyptic death cults through history, from the Mayans to the People's Temple to ISIS, is the "death" part. Something to look forward to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, B-Man said: Starting Friday, there is a global climate strike set to last for a week. According to the organizers, “Our house is on fire — let’s act like it. We demand climate justice for everyone.” . What the %$%& is climate justice? More rain for the Sahara? Fjords for the tropics? Equatorial blizzards? More than 75 days of sunshine per year in Buffalo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, DC Tom said: The only thing that separates the climate change extremists from all the apocalyptic death cults through history, from the Mayans to the People's Temple to ISIS, is the "death" part. Something to look forward to... Isolation from the rest of the world separated the other groups to varying extents. These dweebs have an actual chance of holding the reins of power worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Al Gore appreciative of kids skipping school today to push his policy agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Azalin said: What the %$%& is climate justice? More rain for the Sahara? Fjords for the tropics? Equatorial blizzards? More than 75 days of sunshine per year in Buffalo? Global warming disproportionately impacts minorities. Because intersectionality and critical theory or some such bull####. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 All week.........................Jeez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 The protest just went past my window here on Market Street in the heartland of 'progressive' thought. Anyone want to throw out guesses as to how many discarded protest signs I'll see on the ground walking 3/4 mile back to the Ferry Building this afternoon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, KD in CA said: The protest just went past my window here on Market Street in the heartland of 'progressive' thought. Anyone want to throw out guesses as to how many discarded protest signs I'll see on the ground walking 3/4 mile back to the Ferry Building this afternoon? dozens? many dozens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 SNOWFALLS ARE NOW JUST A THING OF THE PAST: Homework for the climate strikers. (Classical reference in headline.) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wait 'til Monday's protest. I already told my team to work from home and avoid the - and I quote - "expected Brobdingnagian hellscape." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KD in CA Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just saw some young, dumb kid on the sidewalk holding an iphone in one hand and a 'End Capitalism' sign in the other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Is the rest of the world wrong on global warming and only Trump is right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 The eleven year old exposed the scam for what it is with the second quote Props for the Left's props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, ALF said: Is the rest of the world wrong on global warming and only Trump is right ? Right/wrong about what exactly? The phrase most often repeated is 'stop climate change', so how exactly are we supposed to accomplish that ('stop' what has been happening naturally for the last 4.5 billion years)? Also, please explain how anything the left wing is suggesting accomplishes that goal. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Right/wrong about what exactly? The phrase most often repeated is 'stop climate change', so how exactly are we supposed to accomplish that ('stop' what has been happening naturally for the last 4.5 billion years)? Also, please explain how anything the left wing is suggesting accomplishes that goal. Thanks So you are saying the rest of the world is wrong ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ALF said: Is the rest of the world wrong on global warming and only Trump is right ? Wrong about what specifically? I can't speak for anyone but myself, and I don't think there's any debate that the climate is changing. And personally, the consternation as to the cause is largely a sideshow to the real issues we should be focused on when it comes to the environment/climate change. So, for me, the question is what do we do about climate change to better both our present and future. There will be problems we will have to solve, undeniably, and even if we disagree as to the severity of those problems or their timetable, I think the best chance we have to find solutions lies in our ability to innovate and make technological advancements. That being the case, the last thing I want to do in the name of combating Climate Change is to bet on the government to solve the problem. The last thing I want to do is make it harder for companies and individuals to tackle the problem through innovation. The debate (for me) isn't about what's real and what isn't, it's about being honest about who gives us the best chance as a species to problem solve. And I think most people would agree that the government in reality does not problem solve very well -- and even if they do, they do not do so expediently or cheaply. Edited September 20, 2019 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 You have me convinced , Trump and his followers don't believe in global warming and the rest of the world is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, ALF said: So you are saying the rest of the world is wrong ? Thanks Well....I'm saying the thousands of people who marched past my window today are morons. Apparently so are you since you can't answer my straight forward question after initiate the conversation. 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wrong about what specifically? I can't speak for anyone but myself, and I don't think there's any debate that the climate is changing. And personally, the consternation as to the cause is largely a sideshow to the real issues we should be focused on when it comes to the environment/climate change. So, for me, the question is what do we do about climate change to better both our present and future. There will be problems we will have to solve, undeniably, and even if we disagree as to the severity of those problems or their timetable, I think the best chance we have to find solutions lies in our ability to innovate and make technological advancements. That being the case, the last thing I want to do in the name of combating Climate Change is to bet on the government to solve the problem. The last thing I want to do is make it harder for companies and individuals to tackle the problem through innovation. The debate (for me) isn't about what's real and what isn't, it's about being honest about who gives us the best chance as a species to problem solve. And I think most people would agree that the government in reality does not problem solve very well -- and even if they do, they do not do so expediently or cheaply. Yup. Of course the climate is changing....that's one of the features of this planet. Humans can't 'stop' or 'reverse' the changing climate -- to believe so shows the ultimate combination of hurbris and stupidity. That doesn't mean we shouldn't take better care of the planet. Getting a single use plastic bag every time I bought a tube of toothpaste at CVS pissed me off long before CA started banning them, so I don't have a problem with reasonable restrictions like that. We should also have also mandated solar in new construction, outlawed Styrofoam, and done a hundred other things decades ago to protect the planet. But since all the left has to offer are morons blathering about 'climate justice' and banning capitalism, I will be forced to conclude there is no serious attempt to improve the environment from any politicians and so that will no longer be one of the things I consider when voting for a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ALF said: Is the rest of the world wrong on global warming and only Trump is right ? Because it's a purely binary question of right and wrong between Donald Trump and the rest of the world. You're an idiot, asking an idiot's question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Because it's a purely binary question of right and wrong between Donald Trump and the rest of the world. You're an idiot, asking an idiot's question. Very simple question , is the rest of the world wrong on global warming ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, ALF said: So you are saying the rest of the world is wrong ? Thanks You're being deliberately obtuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Just now, Azalin said: You're being deliberately obtuse. No, not deliberately. Naturally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, ALF said: Very simple question , is the rest of the world wrong on global warming ? Their "solution" is the same to every "problem" and they think no one will notice. Edited September 21, 2019 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: Because it's a purely binary question of right and wrong between Donald Trump and the rest of the world. You're an idiot, asking an idiot's question. So the rest of the world considers you a joke ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, ALF said: So the rest of the world considers you a joke ? I don't understand. Please explain this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I don't understand. Please explain this. Global warming is real as per the world , not Trump followers Can you claim the majority in the US and world don't believe in global warming ? Edited September 21, 2019 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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