BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Have noticed many CB's and LB's have a knack for getting their hand on the ball while wrapping a WR or RB up and stripping the ball out. Saw it just now in the LSU game but several times in NFL games as well. Do we have a guy on our team who does this consistently? Or is it something that happens sporadically? Can it be stressed and taught in training camp? Interceptions are great, but stripping the ball out (as opposed to a jolt of the helmet on the ball) could result in many more turnovers. I also tend to see a lot of stripped fumbles occur in a two or three man gang tackle. Our D should converge on Ivory tomorrow and strip it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Can't have enough talented strippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I think usually it's more important to get the guy down than go for the ball and risk giving up more yardage. But I've seen some plays make a concerted effort to swing for the ball while making the tackle. I've seen Spikes do it a couple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Can't have enough talented strippers For many students, it's the only way to pay for college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 I think usually it's more important to get the guy down than go for the ball and risk giving up more yardage. But I've seen some plays make a concerted effort to swing for the ball while making the tackle. I've seen Spikes do it a couple times. I agree, definitely. It seems to come into play a lot more when one guy has the RB/WR wrapped up and another comes in and gets ahold of the ball. Would love to see it more on our team. Possibly tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) They practice this and embed this in many players from a young age. Brandon Spikes, McKelvin and Gilmore routinely do this. Aaron Williams has been up and down in his career. Edited October 26, 2014 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 They practice this and embed this in many players from a young age. Brandon Spikes, McKelvin and Gilmore routinely do this. Aaron Williams has been up and down in his career. McK had a great one in the Chicago game on Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 How much of it is luck too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 They practice this and embed this in many players from a young age. Brandon Spikes, McKelvin and Gilmore routinely do this. Aaron Williams has been up and down in his career. I'll watch for it. It seems to be a matter of strength over the opponent's will to hold onto the ball. Physics would seem to allow a guy with a free hand to have better leverage to strip the ball out (but I'm no physicist). Like I said, interceptions are rAre because a pass is either on target or way off, but tackling a player with the ball puts you in direct contact with the prize...if there was a trick to having it come out then we need some of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'll watch for it. It seems to be a matter of strength over the opponent's will to hold onto the ball. Physics would seem to allow a guy with a free hand to have better leverage to strip the ball out (but I'm no physicist). Like I said, interceptions are rAre because a pass is either on target or way off, but tackling a player with the ball puts you in direct contact with the prize...if there was a trick to having it come out then we need some of that. It's technique too. For many it's boom or bust (can miss a tackle) but some guys have worked out the timing and angles to be very effective even though it can be tough at full speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'll watch for it. It seems to be a matter of strength over the opponent's will to hold onto the ball. Physics would seem to allow a guy with a free hand to have better leverage to strip the ball out (but I'm no physicist). Like I said, interceptions are rAre because a pass is either on target or way off, but tackling a player with the ball puts you in direct contact with the prize...if there was a trick to having it come out then we need some of that. We used to practice it for fun. It was like a rabbit game. A dude would take off running and someone would have to give chase and get the ball loose. Many teams do this, or any types of various drills early to teach the fundamentals of both ball control and the importance of generating turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 How much of it is luck too 11 percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Stripping is a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Stripping is a gift. Better to receive than give... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Jerry Hughes tries it most of the time, although he had a prime chance in the last game or two and didn't do it. He's the only one except for McLuvin on the defense who consistently tries. Sometimes Mario does, but Mario is smart about it. he will usually make sure he has the tackle. Sometimes Aaron Williams does it recklessly. Bradham has started to do it a bit, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 They practice this and embed this in many players from a young age. Brandon Spikes, McKelvin and Gilmore routinely do this. Aaron Williams has been up and down in his career. Huh? McKelvin has 4 FF in 7 years. Gilmore hasn't had one since 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) This is what happens when you go for the strip. Chris Conte said it himself after the game. Edited October 26, 2014 by ldandria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I think its a better idea to try and get the man down. Go for the strip and get run over. Case and point of FJ versus Chris Conte week 1. According to Chicago Sun Times: "Conte had a good defense for his stumbling, saying that once it became clear Jackson had positioned the Bills for an easy field goal on his 38-yard run, his only hope was to try to force a fumble." http://www.suntimes.com/29748263-606/chris-conte-defends-his-play-on-fred-jacksons-big-run.html#.VExbgfnF-So So wasn't going for the strip the right idea? Only a forced fumble saved the game. Yes Conte got embarrassed on TV, but I'm sure he and any player worth his salt would rather have a chance to win the game. Edited October 26, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfk Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Parents who are serious about their son becoming an NFL player have their babies slapping a nerf ball out of their hands for hours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 This is what happens when you go for the strip. Chris Conte said it himself after the game. Not a great example. Fred properly held the ball on the outside arm. I'm referring more to those cases where the runner is coming through the middle or tackling from the side with another teammate. That run by Fred was the wrong "strip" opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 This has been fun! Strippers and strippers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Huh? McKelvin has 4 FF in 7 years. Gilmore hasn't had one since 2012. They try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Definitely taught, but then those with a natural feel incorporate it more often, a little like linemen putting their hand up rushing the passer, not everyone does it and some do it more successfully. I guess they're the 1% that make up a play. Edited October 26, 2014 by Shamrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Not a great example. Fred properly held the ball on the outside arm. I'm referring more to those cases where the runner is coming through the middle or tackling from the side with another teammate. That run by Fred was the wrong "strip" opportunity. Exactly. Conte was just making sh*t up because he was under the gun for getting steamrolled. I can't believe they accepted that loser mentality. Anything can happen on the following plays, you bring your man down from the farthest point you can from the goal line. A guy like Conte is not out there making executive decisions like that. He got steamrolled plain and simple. Just because the Bills were in FG range, Conte is going to take the chance of the game ending right there on a TD. I am not buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The second man on a gang tackle is coached to go after the Ball and let the initial tackler finish the tackle. Tackling and punching or stripping the ball is taught at all levels of football. Properly protecting the football and preventing strips is also taught and all levels of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Can't have enough talented strippers You sir, are management material! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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