What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

“a serious threat of physical violence against a reasonably identifiable victim” to a psychotherapist, that psychotherapist is required to take steps to protect the intended victim"  So only people with a psychotherapist that makes a direct threat to a actual victim.  

 

doesn't seem like it would impact much at all. did the crazy person in Tenn tell their psychotherapist they were going to shoot up the school?

 

 

 

 

your reading comprehension needs work.  or more likely you cherry picked the article.  Psychotherapists make up a tiny percentage of AMA membership and pretty sure the piece wasn't targeted at them.  but I'm not going back for you and reread it.

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

your reading comprehension needs work.  or more likely you cherry picked the article.  Psychotherapists make up a tiny percentage of AMA membership and pretty sure the piece wasn't targeted at them.  but I'm not going back for you and reread it.

I took that from the part you sourced out of the article and pasted into your comment.

 

Before you toss attempted insults, find a mirror.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2023 by Chris farley

[Joe Ferguson forever]

19 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

I took that from the part you sourced out of the article and pasted into your comment.

 

Before you toss attempted insults, find a mirror.

 

 

 

 

and did it expound on that to include other doctors?  hold that thought.  gotta hit some putts and get to the range before I lose some money on the course.  I just messaged my foursome and we are going to discuss Lenin right after we agree on today's bets.

Edited March 30, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

and did it expound on that to include other doctors?  hold that thought.  gotta hit some putts and get to the range before I lose some money on the course.

your cut and paste from that article included very generic references to other states, it only had a detailed reference from cali.

 

When you point a finger, there are there coming right back at you.

 

 

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

15 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

But the NY Governor didn't take away Irv's gun - and yet he is STILL crying like a spoiled brat.

 

These law-abiding gun owners should be OUTRAGED that these bad apples are RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE. They SHOULD BE advocating for stricter rules that will have virtually little impact on the SPORT. That's what it is, right?  I mean, who NEEDS to carry an AR-15 to Wegmans? 

 

But no - these idiots and red state governors continue to advocate and do the EXACT opposite - make it even F'N easier for ANYONE to get a gun.

 

 

CLEARLY THERE ARE HOLES IN THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE IF THESE NUT JOBS CAN CONTINUE TO GET GUNS. AND IF THERE ARE NO HOLES LIKE THEY CLAIM - THEN TOO DAMN BAD - REGULATE THE F OUT OF THESE AR-15 TYPE WEAPONS.

 

You want to play GI Joe with AR-15?  Great - go to a secure location.

 

Meanwhile, these freaks are focused on banning books (the irony) and crying about drag queens.

 

jfc

 

 

 

 

 

I still don't understand why you want to go after the one weapon platform that accounts for a fraction of gun deaths per year. 400 or less. Out of 10,500. 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

I still don't understand

 

It's ok.  What I don't understand is why you would let your own family get slaughtered before you would give up your gun.

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

It's ok.  What I don't understand is why you would let your own family get slaughtered before you would give up your gun.

 

 

That's the thing, one reason I have my firearms to protect my family. 

 

You still have not explained why you continue to single out ONE firearm platform and ignore the others? The least used type, but you see it being scary and  you want to get rid of it. 

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

The R party left physicians, then physicians left the party.  Not the other way around.  We don't identify with Nazi's

https://www.wsj.com/articles/doctors-once-gop-stalwarts-now-more-likely-to-be-democrats-11570383523

But yes, when we are out golfing, Bolshevism is a frequent topic of discussion, at least in my regular group😂

Got a 11 am tee time today.  I'll be sure to bring it up on the 1st tee. If not today, I'm sure we'll discuss Sunday.

Maybe you can discuss how doctors allowed themselves to become pawns of the Soviet Union and routinely diagnosed those who publicly opposed the regime with mental disorders. 
 

But hey, I’m sure the docs in the USSR only fell in line once those who opposed communism “left physicians,” so they’re absolved. 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

That's the thing, one reason I have my firearms to protect my family. 

 

You still have not explained why you continue to single out ONE firearm platform and ignore the others? The least used type, but you see it being scary and  you want to get rid of it. 

 

You already admitted here in this thread that you would never relinquish your weapons; even if you knew it would save a loved one.

 

You can save your "knowledge" of guns - CIVILIANS DON'T NEED MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS. 

 

 

 

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

You already admitted here in this thread that you would never relinquish your weapons; even if you knew it would save a loved one.

 

You can save your "knowledge" of guns - CIVILIANS DON'T NEED MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Never said that BS. You can keep saying that and trying to piece together my posts, but I never said that. Keep trying though. 

 

It's not difficult to answer a simple question: 

 

Why do you want to go after the AR-15 or the AR platform (includes several rifle calibers) when a handgun accounts for 16 times the number of murders? 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

You already admitted here in this thread that you would never relinquish your weapons; even if you knew it would save a loved one.

 

You can save your "knowledge" of guns - CIVILIANS DON'T NEED MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS. 

 

 

 

 

 

Military carry's handguns.  Some anyways.

No military uses an Bushmaster AR15, and they sure aint using the garbage guns that Tenn Shooter used.

 

But hey, you head down and get the criminals to all give up there's, and in turn we read about way less gun violence, folks will probably be less inclined to search out self defense.

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

3 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Military carry's handguns.  Some anyways.

No military uses an Bushmaster AR15, and they sure aint using the garbage guns that Tenn Shooter used.

 

But hey, you head down and get the criminals to all give up there's, and in turn we read about way less gun violence, folks will probably be less inclined to search out self defense.

 

 

 

CNN and MSNBC as well as the Young Turks, they talk about the evils of the AR-15 (which probably account for 200 deaths a year in reality). That's where BS gets his information on firearms and information about the AR-15. Cenk Uygur doesn't like the AR-15, unless you're transgender (he actually said that... no one should own one unless they are a tranny), so BS is going with what Cenk and Rachel Maddow says. 

[Tommy Callahan]

8 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

CNN and MSNBC as well as the Young Turks, they talk about the evils of the AR-15 (which probably account for 200 deaths a year in reality). That's where BS gets his information on firearms and information about the AR-15. Cenk Uygur doesn't like the AR-15, unless you're transgender (he actually said that... no one should own one unless they are a tranny), so BS is going with what Cenk and Rachel Maddow says. 

Good old hot head Cenk.  The video of tyt meltdown during the 2016 election is epic.  So extreme he got fired from MSNBC.  

Edited March 30, 2023 by Chris farley

[BillStime]

21 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Military carry's handguns.  Some anyways.

No military uses an Bushmaster AR15, and they sure aint using the garbage guns that Tenn Shooter used.

 

But hey, you head down and get the criminals to all give up there's, and in turn we read about way less gun violence, folks will probably be less inclined to search out self defense.

 

 

Look at you justify the slaughter of innocent people with guns that don’t belong in the hands of civilians.

 

You continue to demonstrate that there is NO compromise when it comes to gun nuts like you.

 

Guns Over People

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

15 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Look at you justify the slaughter of innocent people with guns that don’t belong in the hands of civilians.

 

You continue to demonstrate that there is NO compromise when it comes to gun nuts like you.

 

Guns Over People

 

 

So go round them up from the criminals using them.  your the one obsessed with them, if talking a gun nut.

 

people would be less likely to search out self-defense and utilize the second if you know.  if there was there was less of it. 

 

Have you read about the back log of carry permit applications in NYS since tops?   

 

I stated facts, you ran with some emotional ad hominem. like usual.

 

later.

[Wacka]

2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

so only trans people are insane?

No, but most Dems are.😅

Edited March 30, 2023 by Wacka

[Roundybout]

25 minutes ago, Wacka said:

No, but most Dems are.😅

 

Dems aren't the ones fellating guns out of some made-up fear that the gub'ment is gonna get them. 

[aristocrat]

3 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

so only trans people are insane?

 

Well we always here how if they don't have surgery they will commit suicide, or in general they're all suicidal and how they need to be on body altering drugs just to survive so what would you say they are?

[sherpa]

On a side note.

I've got a Kahr P40 pistol for sale.

I bought it when Kahr offered a really good deal on it when guns in the cockpit was allowed after 9/11.

Never fired. Never carried, just oiled every six months or so.

 

My 270 Ruger I must keep for deer never graze zones, like my vineyard, though I haven't fired it for years either.  

[Tommy Callahan]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

Dems aren't the ones fellating guns out of some made-up fear that the gub'ment is gonna get them. 

DEMS are literally screaming for the government to what?????

 

even in here, examples over and over again that would be just that.

 

NYS banned ASSAULT rifles. people were told they had one year to register, sell or destroy.    and all that came from that was a bunch of self-reported boating accidents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

Well we always here how if they don't have surgery they will commit suicide, or in general they're all suicidal and how they need to be on body altering drugs just to survive so what would you say they are?

 

Gender dysphoria (transgender) is in the DSM-5 as a legit mental illness. Suicide rate is high without surgery, but it's significantly worse for those who do complete that "change". 

 

"Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers."

 

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

24 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

DEMS are literally screaming for the government to what?????

 

even in here, examples over and over again that would be just that.

 

NYS banned ASSAULT rifles. people were told they had one year to register, sell or destroy.    and all that came from that was a bunch of self-reported boating accidents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep! Even thought I don't live in NYS, they practically banned "assault weapons" by telling people they had one year to register, turn them in or destroy them. You're a criminal if you owned one and just let it sit in your safe for 12 months and 1 day, not doing anything.  

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Gender dysphoria (transgender) is in the DSM-5 as a legit mental illness. Suicide rate is high without surgery, but it's significantly worse for those who do complete that "change". 

 

"Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers."

 

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

 

Yep! Even thought I don't live in NYS, they practically banned "assault weapons" by telling people they had one year to register, turn them in or destroy them. You're a criminal if you owned one and just let it sit in your safe for 12 months and 1 day, not doing anything.  

 

Here's what solves this made up crisis. No drugs for the kids, no surgeries on the kids and no drag shows for kids. All this drama is over immediately. Problem is for some reason this means this is literally erasing trans people and literally being nazis. 

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

DEMS are literally screaming for the government to what?????

 

even in here, examples over and over again that would be just that.

 

NYS banned ASSAULT rifles. people were told they had one year to register, sell or destroy.    and all that came from that was a bunch of self-reported boating accidents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yet...we aren't living in the V for Vendetta Universe. Imagine that! 

[LeviF]

13 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Here's what solves this made up crisis. No drugs for the kids, no surgeries on the kids and no drag shows for kids. All this drama is over immediately. Problem is for some reason this means this is literally erasing trans people and literally being nazis. 

I wonder why denying trans folks access to kids and not allowing kids to get castrated “erases” trans people 🤔🤔🤔

[ChiGoose]

Active shooter report prompts lockdown at Joint Base Andrews

 

“PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, Md. - A lockdown is in place at Joint Base Andrews (JBA) in Prince George's County over reports of an active shooter near base housing on Thursday.

According to a JBA's Facebook page, an armed individual was spotted around 2:50 p.m. near the base's housing area.

The post is asking people to stay from base housing.

The suspect is described as a white man wearing a purple sweatshirt, black shorts, carrying an AR-15 style rifle with no orange tip.”

 

[BillStime]

7 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

Never said that BS. You can keep saying that and trying to piece together my posts, but I never said that. Keep trying though. 

 

 

Here is the back and forth of our conversation - there is no PIECING TOGETHER of YOUR POSTS - note the time stamps - you were kicking and screaming trying to avoid answering this question and we can all see why:

 

gg

On 5/28/2022 at 5:31 PM, BillStime said:

Would you give up your AR-15 if you knew it would prevent the massacre of innocent people?

 

On 5/28/2022 at 5:36 PM, ArdmoreRyno said:

Would you give up your car if you knew it would like prevent you, a loved one or another from dying in a car accident someday?

 

On 5/28/2022 at 5:36 PM, BillStime said:

Stop deflecting 

 

On 5/28/2022 at 5:38 PM, ArdmoreRyno said:

Answer the question. It’s relevant.
 

And why do you support Putin and the invasion of Ukraine? 

 

On 5/28/2022 at 5:42 PM, BillStime said:

I will address any one of your questions as soon as you stop deflecting with my initial question.

 

go

 

On 5/28/2022 at 5:49 PM, ArdmoreRyno said:

I’m not giving up any of my firearms. They are locked away in my gun safe and have never hurt anyone. You’ll find 99.9% of owners would say the same. 
 

Now answer mine. 

 

On 5/28/2022 at 6:02 PM, BillStime said:

There you go ladies and gentleman - this guy is so incredibly selfish his gun is more important than the endless massacre of innocent people.

 

1) I would give up my car in a heartbeat if I knew it would prevent a loved one from getting killed. 

 

2) Regarding Putin - your master doesn’t have the right to invade a sovereign country and massacre people.

 

But then again I am not surprised a Trumphole is okay with Putin destroying its neighbor and killing innocent people. It is exactly what you want to happen here.

 

Guns over People - it’s the Republican way.

 

sick

 

On 5/28/2022 at 6:37 PM, ArdmoreRyno said:

YOU are the Putin lover. 
 

And you’re an idiot beta troll. 

 

You care about yourself and guns.

 

F everyone else.

 

 

[T&C]

24 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Here is the back and forth of our conversation - there is no PIECING TOGETHER of YOUR POSTS - note the time stamps - you were kicking and screaming trying to avoid answering this question and we can all see why:

 

gg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You care about yourself and guns.

 

F everyone else.

 

 

You live on the PPP of a random Bills themed board in a niche section... all day and all night everyday. Regardless of what you may think your posts reach out to about 20 people in the whole wide world... who agree/disagree. Is this the life you have chosen?

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, T&C said:

You live on the PPP of a random Bills themed board in a niche section... all day and all night everyday. Regardless of what you may think your posts reach out to about 20 people in the whole wide world... who agree/disagree. Is this the life you have chosen?

 

Yet, you're here, too!

 

Funny, you would never actually call out your friends, right?

 

 

 

smfh

[T&C]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Yet, you're here, too!

 

Funny, you would never actually call out your friends, right?

 

 

 

smfh

I look in once in awhile... You spend much of your life on this forum though, I don't know any of those people just like you don't know anyone here... we are just internet people really... who can type on something. I take it for that. Day and night... you are here. Just an observation, don't get twisted.

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, T&C said:

I look in once in awhile... You spend much of your life on this forum though, I don't know any of those people just like you don't know anyone here... we are just internet people really... who can type on something. I take it for that. Day and night... you are here. Just an observation, don't get twisted.

 

Keep spinning.

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

Active shooter report prompts lockdown at Joint Base Andrews

 

“PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, Md. - A lockdown is in place at Joint Base Andrews (JBA) in Prince George's County over reports of an active shooter near base housing on Thursday.

According to a JBA's Facebook page, an armed individual was spotted around 2:50 p.m. near the base's housing area.

The post is asking people to stay from base housing.

The suspect is described as a white man wearing a purple sweatshirt, black shorts, carrying an AR-15 style rifle with no orange tip.”

 

This is going on all over the country, these gun thugs have got everyone upset and scared, just like they want 

[T&C]

45 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Keep spinning.

 my little darling

 

 

Edited March 30, 2023 by T&C

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[aristocrat]

 

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

 

An anecdote that, while great, doesn’t represent the typical outcome. 
 

The epidemiology of self-defense gun use: evidence from the National Crime Victimization Surveys 2007-2011

 

“Results: Of over 14,000 incidents in which the victim was present, 127 (0.9%) involved a SDGU [self-defense gun use]. SDGU was more common among males, in rural areas, away from home, against male offenders and against offenders with a gun.
 

After any protective action, 4.2% of victims were injured; after SDGU, 4.1% of victims were injured. In property crimes, 55.9% of victims who took protective action lost property, 38.5 of SDGU victims lost property, and 34.9% of victims who used a weapon other than a gun lost property.

Conclusions: Compared to other protective actions, the National Crime Victimization Surveys provide little evidence that SDGU is uniquely beneficial in reducing the likelihood of injury or property loss.”

[LeviF]

47 minutes ago, BillStime said:

🎯

 

 

“Siri, what do Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont have in common?”

[BillStime]

44 minutes ago, LeviF said:

“Siri, what do Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont have in common?”

Hey Siri - besides the fact the three states mentioned above have open carry - tell us about the population in those states?

 

thanks! 
 

 

Edited March 31, 2023 by BillStime

[ChiGoose]

31 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Hey Siri - besides the fact the three states mentioned above have open carry - tell us about the population in those states?

 

thanks! 
 

 

I honestly wonder if the people there still mainly view guns as tools instead of fetishizing them.

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

tell us about the population in those states?

 

thanks! 
 

 

 

32 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

I honestly wonder if the people there still mainly view guns as tools instead of fetishizing them.

Boy, looking at the population splits I bet you guys are right!

 

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