BuffalothruMyVeins Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I have been reading some of the posts around here about drafting a mid-rounder QB this year, and if EJ fails this season, maybe we're in position to draft a top QB next year. So that's 2 picks spent o. What are ultimately question marks. I have also heard that we have a roster that, other than developing a QB (who may already be on the team), is playoff-worthy... And I generally agree with that. Maybe not quite Super Bowl worthy yet, but with above average QB play I think we are a problem for teams. So my idea is: what if we take a WIN RIGHT NOW track, and trade this year's first round pick plus next year's, for an above average QB, to help us take a run at this for the next 3 years, before our veteran player's talent begins to ebb. Mario, Kyle, McKelvin, Fred, Stevie, Chandler, and maybe even Wood and CJ could be at their peaks right now, with only down to go in the next couple years, and we're looking for improvement at core positions again. If we trade the two firsts, yes, it takes 2 valuable picks we could have used to replace these guys, and could further accelerate our downhill slide if we trade them away for a veteran QB. However, that high price is basically the cost of doing business to get out of this 18-24th best team range we have been in for 2 or 3 years now. Yes, this idea is aggressive, bold, and risky, but I would rather be too bold, than too conservative. I would rather be caught being too Pettine than too Jauron. With all of that said, let's take a look and see who could conceivably be pried loose for 2 first rounders. Carson Palmer Matt Ryan Joe Flacco Cam Newton Jay Cutler Andy Dalton Tony Romo Peyton Manning Matt Stafford Aaron Rogers Matt Schaub Andrew Luck Chad Henne Alex Smith Ryan Tannehill Christian Ponder Matt Cassell Josh Freeman Tom Brady Drew Brees Eli Manning Geno Smith Terrell Pryor Nick Foles Ben Roethlisberger Phillip Rivers Colin Kaepernick Russell Wilson Sam Bradford Mike Glennon Ryan Fitzpatrick Jake Locker Robert Griffin Kirk Cousins Obviously some of these guys cannot be pried lose from their teams for anything...: Peyton Manning Tom Brady Aaron Rogers Andrew Luck and probably Matt Ryan Cam Newton Joe Flacco Russell Wilson and Eli Manning Also, obviously, I wouldn't give up two first rounders to put us over the top for...: Carson Palmer Andy Dalton Matt Schaub Chad Henne Christian Ponder Matt Cassell Josh Freeman Geno Smith Terrell Pryor Mike Glennon Ryan Fitzpatrick Jake Locker and Kirk Cousins So that leaves... Jay Cutler Matt Stafford Ryan Tannehill Alex Smith Nick Foles Ben Roethlisberger Phillip Rivers Colin Kaepernick Sam Bradford Robert Griffin I'm not a fan of Tannehill, Foles has only done it one year, and Griffin's knee scares me (plus Washington gave up so much to move up in the draft to get him, I think if they sold on him after 2 years for "only" 2 firsts, it would be admitting defeat, even though they could pin it on a previous regime. They will live or die by him). The remaining ones would provide us enough production with minimal growing pains while our team makes a run. My personal favorite would be Phillip Rivers, but he probably wouldn't be available for the 2 picks, but who knows. Maybe if we packaged Manuel, it would have a chance. My second would be: Romo, then Roethlisberger, Cutler, Stafford, Kaepernick, Bradford, Smith. Where in this list would you think we could get the best return for the 2 picks, maybe giving up Manuel plus the 2 firsts for Kaepernick? Who do you guys think we could get, and who would you want? Would say 3 years of going for it be a good gamble to then not be as good right after the run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 None. Of your list Andrew Luck is the only one. I personally think Sam Bradford is worth a High first the kid has been screwed by crappy lines and no WR's since he has been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 None. Of your list Andrew Luck is the only one. I personally think Sam Bradford is worth a High first the kid has been screwed by crappy lines and no WR's since he has been there. You really don't think 3 years of Roethlisberger, Cutler, Romo, or Rivers are worth the playoff runs that would go with it, not even to mention Manning, Brady, Rogers, Ryan, or Brees?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Luck Rogers Cam Edited March 22, 2014 by filthymcnasty08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Jameis Winston next yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 There is ZERO chance that the Colts would trade Andrew Luck for 2 first rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Rogers Luck Brees That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Aaron Rodgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 in order, with a heavy bias on age. Luck - 24 Rodgers - 30 Brady - 36 Manning - 37 Rivers - 32 Newton - 24 Ryan - 28 Foles - 25 Cutler - 30 Wilson - 25 Kaepernick - 26 Brees - 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Another thing to point out is that if we DO give up a couple first rounders to get an above average QB, I bet that Spiller will actually look like 1st round talent and can be traded for a 1st. I'm not on the team Trade Spiller squad. Just pointing out that a great QB makes other players look good and raise their value. The "building through the draft" idea didn't work for the Bills because of who was drafting for us so I wouldn't have minded the whole giving up two 1st round picks idea when Nix and Donahue was at the steering wheel. But I gotta say, I like what Whaley did last year and I'm hoping that if he's consistent in finding talent, we will eventually have an amazing team. QB is the topic at hand though. We all know we don't have that QB right now, but let's just see what EJ can do at least one more year before we have the QB discussion again. We have other needs. QB is important but average QB play can get you to the playoffs (which is all I care about). With a stout defense and average QB we can get to the playoffs once again. Once we get to the playoffs we can whine about not getting to the Superbowl. Til then, let's just worry about getting to the playoffs and I think EJ can get us there if we had other pieces in place (and if he can stay healthy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Andrew Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Why would we trade two first rounders? I thought we were supposed to draft a first round QB every year until one becomes a probowl/superbowl all star hall of fame world series champion the first season they play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Johnny Unitas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Why would we trade two first rounders? I thought we were supposed to draft a first round QB every year until one becomes a probowl/superbowl all star hall of fame world series champion the first season they play? that way you only have to waste 2 first rounders on a sure thing. Edited March 23, 2014 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Fitzpatrick i hear hes good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 None. None may work in our system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 None, because the only people who might be worth it are on the downside of their careers. It always seems like a great idea until you are left with no QB and no 1st round picks. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) I would give up 4 first round picks for luck. If we are a good team they would be low first round picks anyway and if you have a good qb and are winning its easy to bring in quality free agents. Since we won't and I value qb so highly I would be satisfied if we draft a qb every year until we find our guy that we can win with. Is it EJ? I dont know yet but I hope it is.... Edited March 23, 2014 by drinkTHEkoolaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Drew Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I would trade 2 drafts for luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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