uncle flap Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yes, I've already said that it does, but to have another 10,000 sit on their hands the whole game certainly isn't helping one bit. Are those fans sitting on their hands because of the reasons Bucky suggested? Sure, plenty of people agree with him, and have low and/or cautious expectations of the Bills, but I don't think those same fans are the ones going to the games just to sit and be quiet. Of course it's louder when they're winning (and I don't mean in general, but leading on the scoreboard during a particular game), but the past however many years of losing in general doesn't have anything to do with it, IMO. Bucky is suggesting that the fans have a loser mentality and that is why they weren't cheering. I say that's doubly false. The fans were cheering, and cheering loudly. Having once cheered louder or whatever doesn't really have to do with last Sunday. Did anyone scream at, oh let's say, 75% capacity when Woods caught his TD because the Bills were 6-10 last year? That's a ridiculous insinuation. You either scream and shout, or you don't. Or is Bucky saying people were in the stands with their arms folded and silent because they just knew Brady was goingto come back like he has for a decade? The stadium was basically full. Club seats notwithstanding, Bills fans go to the game to cheer their butts off. What kind of clown goes to a NFL game to pout in the stands because Kelly Holcomb sucked in 2005? Give me a break. Bucky should realize how insulting his piece is to fans who pay their hard earned money to go the games and root for their team. Yeah, yeah, I know he's just trying to get a reaction- mission accomplished, buttwipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Is the stadium now different than it was back in 2007 when the 4-0 Cowboys played the 1-3 Bills on Monday night? Because that was a pretty crappy team, and I recall that place being as loud and crazy as any other game, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I thought the article was spot on, except the baloney about the stadium being quiet. It was very loud and engaged. Gleason lost some credibility with that claim. It was quiet...when the Bills were on offense, a subtlety that seems to have escaped Gleason's notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Media types have some of the biggest egos on the planet. They not only love, but desperately need to be right. All the time. They can never be wrong. I'm a Pittsburgh Pirates fan for over 20 years and there are still media types dangling "collapse is imminent". They have a complete inability to write about success. I'm not saying the Buffalo media should sugarcoat or start publishing fictional tales of NFL Bills supremacy, but some balance would be nice. Lots of teams are 0-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The culture of failure has failed. We must make it successful again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He says Manuel had to try to urge the crowd to get louder after the third quarter. He keeps talking about the crowd being quiet because it's scared of what's going to happen. I was there. I thought the crowd was going batshit crazy during the 2nd half. We never sat down. After the third, it was very loud, and EJ IMO was getting into it. Not sensing he had to get the crowd into it. For those who were there, was your perception more like mine or more like Bucky's?: http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/bills-fighting-a-losing-battle-with-culture-of-failure-20130912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I wasn't there but from watching on tv it did seem like the crowd was pretty into it and appeared to be loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I believe EJ was just getting into it and loving the craziness and home crowd. At the same time, I thought the place would be much louder considering new HC, new QB, and a 2nd half lead against the Pats. There's so many games that I've been to that have been louder in the last 7-8 years I couldn't count them. This game was loud but doesn't come close to Pats win Dallas Monday Night Comeback against the Raider (either of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I was there and agree with your view. Bucky was using poetic license, trying to make something out of nothing. Bills fans are sophisticated (even an opening day crowd) and by-and-large understand that you keep your mouth shut when the Bills have the ball. It's counterintuitive to cheer when the Bills have the ball, but we were willing to play along at the end of a quarter after EJ gestured to the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/161509-the-culture-of-failure/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I believe EJ was just getting into it and loving the craziness and home crowd. At the same time, I thought the place would be much louder considering new HC, new QB, and a 2nd half lead against the Pats. There's so many games that I've been to that have been louder in the last 7-8 years I couldn't count them. This game was loud but doesn't come close to Pats win Dallas Monday Night Comeback against the Raider (either of them) Dallas Monday night was loudest I've ever heard it. It was ear hurting loud. Just awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Idk about last week but I know this Sunday I plan on not being able to talk until Wednesday with all the screaming I'll be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Bucky is an idiot. He has all the douchebaggery of Sully without any of the writing skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I thought the crowd was loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Subdued crowd? Not in my section. I screamed my head off all game, as did most everyone else. What the hell is this guy talking about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Why does this all sound so familiar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Does the stadium keep shrinking? Was 80k, then 70k, now 65? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Bucky is obviously plagiarizing Jerry's works. EJ was feeding off the crowd and trying to get the team pump. To hell what he thinks about the Bills.... and the sabres for that matter. All of them thrive in their jobs by doing nothing but writing doom and gloom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Does the stadium keep shrinking? Was 80k, then 70k, now 65? The attendance was a misprint. It was actually 69,000 plus. They corrected it the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I still don't have a voice... So...make of that what you will. I feel bad for Beerball...and he sat beside me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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