BringBackFergy Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Barbarian- I'll take your word for it that he can make all the throws and from what I've seen he does have a nice arm...wish he was airing it out more...would like to see more quickness, movement in pocket. Footwork maybe?? Seems to have some of the sluggishness like they said about Mallet (then again, we are watching Manziel also so everything else looks slow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 He's had 0 experience in a pro style offense. Â Keep talking out your ass. Â hey retard I said will as in in the future not that he has, keep drinking dumbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 hey retard I said will as in in the future not that he has, keep drinking dumbass  Hey man. No need for that--- you're better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Barbarian- I'll take your word for it that he can make all the throws and from what I've seen he does have a nice arm...wish he was airing it out more...would like to see more quickness, movement in pocket. Footwork maybe?? Seems to have some of the sluggishness like they said about Mallet (then again, we are watching Manziel also so everything else looks slow) Â he is definitely not a runner but he can move in the pocket so I'm not worried about it. Â Hey man. No need for that--- you're better. Â I grew up with that word so it isn't offensive to me so I really don't think about it being too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Nice game boys. Fun time. Catch you tomorrow for wildcard weekend. Peace   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 516 yards of offense from Manziel. Wow. Fun game to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 @CBSSports Final -- A&M 41, Oklahoma 13 -- http://cbsprt.co/CottonBowl13 Â -- Manziel finishes with 288 passing and 229 rushing. Another Heisman next year? Â Â Wow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Stoops has been in Norman forever. Â Isn't this the same offense that Bradford won the Heisman with as a redshirt freshman? Â Â yeah but it is old and figured out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) I grew up with that word so it isn't offensive to me so I really don't think about it being too much. Â I guess we're just lucky you didn't grow up in Alabama. Â Not for nothing, but it's not so important that it isn't offensive to you. Â Don't misunderstand me, I know you're a good dude. I'm just saying. Edited January 5, 2013 by Punch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Nice game boys. Fun time. Catch you tomorrow for wildcard weekend. Peace  Later Bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 @CBSSports Final -- A&M 41, Oklahoma 13 -- http://cbsprt.co/CottonBowl13 Â -- Manziel finishes with 288 passing and 229 rushing. Another Heisman next year? Â Â Wow!!! Â He was 12 yards short of being only he 2nd player in HISTORY to pass for 300 and run for 200 in the same game. That's amazing to me when you think of all the players to play the game. Â GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I guess we're just lucky you didn't grow up in Alabama. Â Not for nothing, but it's not so important that it isn't offensive to you. Â I'll try not use it again. Â What do you mean by Alabama need further explanation of the last sentence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 He was 12 yards short of being only he 2nd player in HISTORY to pass for 300 and run for 200 in the same game. That's amazing to me when you think of all the players to play the game. Â GO BILLS!!! Plus he had that one play that was maybe 10 yards that was a sure TD dropped by the WR that became an INT. Maybe it was even more than 12 yards I can't recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Plus he had that one play that was maybe 10 yards that was a sure TD dropped by the WR that became an INT. Maybe it was even more than 12 yards I can't recall. Â It sure was a TD though. Â That was a brilliant football performance. Â What a football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I'll try not use it again. Â What do you mean by Alabama need further explanation of the last sentence? Â There are individuals from some areas in the deep south that feel comfortable using certain derogatory terms because they "grew up with it", that's all. Not an inference on you in that regard, but that's the same reasoning. Â To be fair, I also grew up with the word "retard" and the like as innocuous terms we threw around casually, so I certainly understand where you're coming from. I know that a few posters that disagree with some of your opinions have allowed their rhetoric to devolve into disrespectful diatribes and I just think it's a mistake to fight fire with fire. Â My condolences for Landry Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 One other thing. Â In spite of running the ball a lot and extending plays, it didn't seem to me that he took much punishment. Â Seems like his outstanding football instincts include the ability to avoid taking a beating. Â Some quarterbacks on the other hand seem to attract beatings, bring it on themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) There are individuals from some areas in the deep south that feel comfortable using certain derogatory terms because they "grew up with it", that's all. Not an inference on you in that regard, but that's the same reasoning.  To be fair, I also grew up with the word "retard" and the like as innocuous terms we threw around casually, so I certainly understand where you're coming from. I know that a few posters that disagree with some of your opinions have allowed their rhetoric to devolve into disrespectful diatribes and I just think it's a mistake to fight fire with fire.  My condolences for Landry Jones   true, I fired off before I thought about it , you get pushed too much and you snap back.  Landry will be OK but his his OC should be fired though. Edited January 5, 2013 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Let's see how Johnny Football does next year when he has some new O linemen. I feel Johnny is Vanilla Ice. One hit wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Stoops has been in Norman forever. Isn't this the same offense that Bradford won the Heisman with as a redshirt freshman?  Yeah.  And jones is no Bradford.  Not as accurate IMO and not as good under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yeah. Â And jones is no Bradford. Â Not as accurate IMO and not as good under pressure. Â Agreed 100%. Bradford is possibly a worse starting QB than Fitz and Jones isn't even close to Bradford. BB is probably a good guy but he gets manlove for guys. If Jones becomes anything more than a backup in this league, I wil lbe shocked and gladly admit I'm wrong. He's pretty much a whatever QB. Â It is hilarious that BB tries to blame one of the best college coaches in Stoops for Jones not being that good. For God sakes, Stoops helped freaking Josh Heupel win a Heisman. Jones just isn't that good. Â And Johnny Football is a goofy looking mofo but the kid balls. The only thing I worry is Sumlin runs a great offense for a QB. Case Keenum said NCAA passing records in it and is barely in the league. But it will be very interesting to see how Johnny Football grows as a player. It will be nearly impossible to top his freshman year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Â Jones was pretty bad tonight - he was either unwilling or unable to throw the ball downfield, and his throws seemed to lack zip. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Jones was pretty bad tonight - he was either unwilling or unable to throw the ball downfield, and his throws seemed to lack zip. Â That's how Jones looks most the time. He never wows in big games. I hate hating on a college kid, but I'd get sick if the Bills drafted him as the QB of the future. He is Kelly Holcomb Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yeah, whenever I watch Jones, he's just meh. Not bad, mind you....but not good, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yeah, whenever I watch Jones, he's just meh. Not bad, mind you....but not good, either. Â Exactly. And he is surrounded by blue chippers. We would beg for the days of Fitz if Jones ever becomes our starter. Â Btw, I'd love to spend a later pick on Swope. Kid can play and slot receivers dominate in today's flag football NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Â Btw, I'd love to spend a later pick on Swope. Kid can play and slot receivers dominate in today's flag football NFL. Â I'd be down with that. Guy knows how to get open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013   I get a hard time for not loving him but yup. There are reasons he was low rated coming out of HS.  Fun player but nfl transition has a lot of questions. I enjoy watching him though.  The biggest reason he was rated low was the perception he would be run oriented. Though he was a 3 Star recruit Oregon wanted him and the he uncommitted after a few months (I suspect due to rumors of sanctions but it was said his mom wanted him in Texas) and chose A&M. He's just another 3 Star QB Mack Brown said was too small to play in college. (See Drew Brees and RGIII).   I don't know why he would be low rated coming out of high school though. None of his shortcomings are shortcomings in the college game. Sure he is not prototype size, so maybe as a pure recruit he went down a few notches. But you can be great in college like that.  Good notes that he has size 15 shoes and the big hands. That could mean he will grow.  Another reason for it was playing in the small town of Kerrville, TX but he is an absolute legend throughout South Texas. Every high school coach in the area, even at the powerhouses, will tell you his scouting grade was absurd and that he's one of, if not, the best high school QB they've ever seen.  Let's see how Johnny Football does next year when he has some new O linemen. I feel Johnny is Vanilla Ice. One hit wonder  I have a feeling you're wrong, but hey, Mack Brown agrees with you. The kid can flat out play the game of football and he will only get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Let's see how Johnny Football does next year when he has some new O linemen. I feel Johnny is Vanilla Ice. One hit wonder  really?  he is the kind of QB that doesn't need great O-lineman like flutie  Jones was pretty bad tonight - he was either unwilling or unable to throw the ball downfield, and his throws seemed to lack zip.  he had plenty of Zip on that TD pass, the downfield throws are bc of the Offensive design which sucks, it's kinda of west coast spread where they throw short passes to control the clock. They would be better off developing a real rushing attack and a pass offense that uses the whole passing tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 he is definitely not a runner but he can move in the pocket so I'm not worried about it. Â Â Â I grew up with that word so it isn't offensive to me so I really don't think about it being too much. So you wouldn't mind me calling you it? Hey mentally challenged dildo has more of a ring to it anyway. BTW it sounds like you still need to grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 So you wouldn't mind me calling you it? Hey mentally challenged dildo has more of a ring to it anyway. BTW it sounds like you still need to grow up. Â As long as you don't mind me saying you are talking out your ass feel free, or was that just ok for miner to say that me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Why do so many discussions on this forum descend into exchanges of personal attacks? Isn't there a way to disagree with someone's opinion without all of the childish name calling and character assassination. Hint: critiques or challenges of your POV is not a personal attack. Hint: if you disagree with someone's POV, try attacking their assertion and not their character or intelligence. The acrimony that these scenario's create is beyond ridiculous. Â Time for some folks to grow up. Â Note: Descent from soapbox now complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Let's see how Johnny Football does next year when he has some new O linemen. I feel Johnny is Vanilla Ice. One hit wonder  Good call he only won the heisman as a freshman and broke the all time SEC yards record held by the almighty Cam newton.  He's probably a fluke?......people love to hate. Edited January 5, 2013 by Ryan L Billz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 he's too short to play in the NFL... Â - Russell Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 talking out your ass: to say that me. Â lol act respectable and grow up. BTW your boy Jones looked like you sound most the time. And with that, you also have joined my blocked list. bye bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Â Â Thurnan is as dumb as a MOFO! Â No, sorry to say BB, but you are when it comes to scouting Landry Jones. Once again, epic fail for jones. The guy is a bum and ill cry if we draft him. Did you change your draft prediction after watching how awesome he was? Is he going #1 overall now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Very disappointed watching Smith, Glennon and Jones. Hope there is somebody worth drafting in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 When standing next to teammates he really doesn't look like 6'1" 200 to me, but who knows. He looks like 5'11" 185 or so. Â In his interview he said he was 6' even. With his style of play it does not matter though his movement keeps him from getting a lot of passes batted. I counted one in this game. Jones who is 6' 4" had one also. Stationary QB's get balls batted more often no matter how tall they are. Defensive lineman are tall and are taught to Batt down the ball. A 6'4" Defensive End with a decent vertical will be able to batt a ball thrown by a 6'8" QB if he is standing right in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Â Â In his interview he said he was 6' even. With his style of play it does not matter though his movement keeps him from getting a lot of passes batted. I counted one in this game. Jones who is 6' 4" had one also. Stationary QB's get balls batted more often no matter how tall they are. Defensive lineman are tall and are taught to Batt down the ball. A 6'4" Defensive End with a decent vertical will be able to batt a ball thrown by a 6'8" QB if he is standing right in front of him. Jones had at least two passes batted down that I saw, and that was just the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 he's too short to play in the NFL...  - Russell Wilson  I agree.  - Buddy Nix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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