DefenseWins Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Seriously, Which would you like to see in a Bills uniform next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Jackson is a more talented receiver but I can't help but want Stevie back. I know about his problems with celebrations after touchdowns, but that does not take back how he has totally embraced the city of Buffalo and made it his home. He has been that way since day one and it's obvious to me that he loves the players, the fans, the team, the entire city and what it stands for and he wants to stay. Please don't confuse immiturity with not being a team player or with not loving his team. That is totally absurd. Vincent Jackson is super talented. That is a fact. He is also selfish to the 10th power and when he held out as long as he could last year, I was done with the guy. Totally not a team player. Never has been and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'd rather win w/ stevie not sure how good the other guy is i know he's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Mike1 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 I agree that Vincent Jackson is super talented. And there are in fact several other FA WR's who may be available. Assuming we can have only one, doesn't it make sense to at least shop around and find out if one of these guys might be interested in playing here? Let's get the most bang for our buck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I agree that Vincent Jackson is super talented. And there are in fact several other FA WR's who may be available. Assuming we can have only one, doesn't it make sense to at least shop around and find out if one of these guys might be interested in playing here? Let's get the most bang for our buck... sure, but that has nothing to do with the poll question. it was simple. if you could just choose one, would you want johnson or jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 sure, but that has nothing to do with the poll question. it was simple. if you could just choose one, would you want johnson or jackson. I used Vincent Jackson as such because right now he seems likely to be available, and as we both agree is super talented (certainly equal to or better than Stevie Johnson and minus all the drama) and depending on co$t might be a wiser choice. Some people will feel different for different reasons... I am curious how deep the support for Stevie is around here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsSD Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I used Vincent Jackson as such because right now he seems likely to be available, and as we both agree is super talented (certainly equal to or better than Stevie Johnson and minus all the drama) and depending on co$t might be a wiser choice. Some people will feel different for different reasons... I am curious how deep the support for Stevie is around here? Vjax is SJ without the drama? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 let's be clear. jackson is faster, bigger, stronger....a true number one. steive might be a number one but that has yet to be proven. still, i want stevie. he wants to be here. that means a lot to me. loyalty. jackson is a punk who is only playing for money. could care less where he plays. just my opinion obviously but it's based on what i've seen over the last three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbash Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Both are children. As are Dwayne Bowe and Desean Jackson, the other top WR free agents. Regardless, Jackson won't sign in Buffalo, we just don't land the guys who are in demand. Robert Meachem? Or would he be insane to leave that Saints offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Both are children. As are Dwayne Bowe and Desean Jackson, the other top WR free agents. Regardless, Jackson won't sign in Buffalo, we just don't land the guys who are in demand. Robert Meachem? Or would he be insane to leave that Saints offense? Funny how many wideouts are head cases, isn' it? I wonder if it has to do with the constant professional fear of decapitation. Anyways to the OP, for the sake of this little exercise, we're assuming that each player would come at equal cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbash Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yeah, it comes with the territory, I guess. Oh to see the likes of another Andre Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yeah, it comes with the territory, I guess. Oh to see the likes of another Andre Reed. no kidding. after watching easley in preseason, i made the remark to one of my friends that he reminded me of a young eric moulds. (he'd need to bulk up a little of course). i know it was only a preseason game but he dominated the first half of action against jacksonville and gave me hope of what he could be...then of course the mysterious illness and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yeah, it comes with the territory, I guess. Oh to see the likes of another Andre Reed. Or James Lofton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Or James Lofton. or don beebe. heck, i'd take back peerless price now...at least the price of 2002 with his breakout season when he went deep early and often with bledsoe. heck, i'd take bucky brooks right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yeah, it comes with the territory, I guess. Oh to see the likes of another Andre Reed. no kidding. after watching easley in preseason, i made the remark to one of my friends that he reminded me of a young eric moulds. Or James Lofton. or don beebe. heck, i'd take back peerless price now… Kwame Cavil anyone? Anyways, I am glad that Easley has recovered from that chicken wing bone which perforated his intestines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) I'd take Stevie in a heart beat. I know VJ is great but he's not without incident either. So for what it's worth, i'd rather have the guy that's been here and produced back to back 1,000 yard seasons and already has a repor with Fitz. But I'd try and make sure to get both. As far as Reed or Lofton, neither were without incident either. Reed was a major cry baby, especially at the end of his career. Wasn't Lofton involved with some off the field issues, beating his wife or something like that? Just saying, none of these players are without incident, most have some issue here or there. Edited January 6, 2012 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 does anyone think easley's career is finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 does anyone think easley's career is finished? Within the past two weeks he was given medical clearance to continue his career… after hanging in limbo for months. I'm gonna take the hopeful road on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Who's Stevie Jackson?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I hope they sign Stevie Johnson and Vincent both, Vincent is exactly the type of wide out we are missing the ability to push other guys down the depth chart where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'll stick with the one we know. VJ is no angel himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's a slam dunk SJ is a Bill and will always be a Bill i hope . Sure he might have a couple of issues but between him & his team mates I think they will get it straightened out !!! I'll take SJ over VJ any day when the Bills Play !!!!!!!!! Go Bills !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbash Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Agreed on Easley -- if he can stay healthy, he flashed explosive potential. In a scenario where he stretches the secondary, and we find a way to keep Stevie, that frees the budget to draft/throw crazy money at pass rushers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLBighits Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I voted for Stevie but they might need both to fill the stands ! And just as we went into the losing funk last year could've had Owens for the cheap but hey, we might be drafting in the twenties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Agreed on Easley -- if he can stay healthy, he flashed explosive potential. In a scenario where he stretches the secondary, and we find a way to keep Stevie, that frees the budget to draft/throw crazy money at pass rushers Next year, if he can prove himself, I would much rather have Easley going up for jump balls down the sideline than Donald "Can't Catch a Cold" Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Both. this team needs to quit screwing around with FA. We don't have to go crazy but we should at least be players. If we sign VJ and then go after Marrio Williams, Robert Mathis or Cliff Avril we could get to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy G Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Both. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I think players who see themselves as superstars don't want to play in a Siberean outpost like Buffalo unless we were a SB contender. Stevie was drafted by us and probably learned to appreciate Buffalo but still missed his home town. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Stevie by a long shot. He brings less drama than vjax. Stevie has 3 penalties in the last 2 years that everyone is up in arms about - imagine if he skipped 10 games for a new contract like vjax did last year. As for Stevie's not a number 1 but vjax is here are the numbers for the last 2 years: VJax Games Receptions Yards TDs 2010 5 14 248 3 2011 16 60 1106 9 Stevie 2010 16 82 1073 10 2011 16 76 1004 7 Who would you rather have? A guy who plays hurt and wears his emotion on his sleeve or a guy who plays when the money is right? If VJax is a number 1 (he is) so is Stevie! People need to give up the argument of he's not a number 1 or find some facts to back it up. VJax has a better offense and better qb but not better numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Stevie for sure. Jackson is physically more talented (height, strength and a bit faster), but Stevie's route running and moves are MUCH better than Jackson. Jackson would never leave rivers to join fitz. He's regret it for life. For those clamoring to sign BOTH...... Lol. We root for the bills, remember? We'll be lucky to sign one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Who's Stevie Jackson?? Freddy Johnson's cousin. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'll take Johnson. Vincent Jackson has no work ethic and runs sloppy routes. He also benefits from a system where the defense has to focus on multiple weapons like Antonio Gates in nearly perfect weather, on grass. Johnson has been effective with opposing defenses not having to worry about guys like that in a mix of weather on turf. When you are the only real receiving threat, you need to run crisp, clean routes and out work your opposition. I used to be high on Vincent Jackson but no longer. His talent has fallen victim to it's owner's personality and ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) BOTH!!! There is no reason we can't get both with how far under the Cap we are. If I have to pick one, I'm taking SJ. He plays hurt, likes playing in Buffalo, does not have a bad ego (he does goofy celebrations, so what), and his teamates love him. Edited January 6, 2012 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 BOTH!!! There is no reason we can't get both with how far under the Cap we are. If I have to pick one, I'm taking SJ. He plays hurt, likes playing in Buffalo, does not have a bad ego (he does goofy celebrations, so what), and his teamates love him. Yes there is a reason we can't get both. Ralph Wilson is our owner. You think he'll pony up 18 mill a year for 2 wrs in one free agency period? Pass the pips, I want some too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Who's Stevie Jackson?? He plays for the rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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