Dr. Fong Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Check their egos? Who's in charge? The statement from Gailey should be, if hired, Wannstedt is the new DC and anyone not on board is fired! Exactly. I never thought I'd be happy to have Dave Wannstedt around, but I think he'd be a great asset to the team and really hope he comes on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I'd like to agree with your assessment of what his coming to Buffalo first means, but alas I do not. In my view, coming to Buffalo first drives up Wanny's price tag for San Diego. I do agree with many that if he stays in Buffalo, it will be as AHC. It would be a weak move if they are tight to come to town, and create drama on his friends coaching staff to pad his paycheck somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Klein Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 If we hire Wannstedt, I vow to grow the most glorious (and by glorious I mean I'll be 22 next season so it won't be very good) mustache of all time throughout next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) just got posted on pro football talk that san diego is set to hire greg manusky dc. Edited January 14, 2011 by shadowcat10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 We need Wannstedt for one reason and one reason only - the power of the mustache. There hasn't been a decent stash on this staff since Chucky Lester got sent packing. Magnum Freakin Wannstedt P.I. And Curtis Modkins doesn't count. He should drop his lip in a bowl of milk and have a cat lick that poor excuse for a mustache off of his face. Modkins Get it right, man...it's ' Wannstache ' ... " Dave Wannstedt, best known as a former head coach of the Chicago Bears, Miami Dolphins and the University of Pittsburgh, as well as the owner of the NFL's seventh greatest mustache ever, is in high demand for a number of coaching positions... Why is everyone jonesing for the Wannstache? Let's take a look back at his NFL body of work. In his four years as defensive coordinator for the Cowboys, Wannstedt's defenses went from 20th to 10th to 17th to 1st in the league in yards allowed. Maybe his name isn't the first you think of when those Super Bowl-winning Cowboys teams are mentioned, but Wannstedt does have a ring. When he got to Miami, the defense became as formidable as his mouth brow. In all five of his years as head coach, his defense was ranked in the top ten in the league in yardage allowed, even in 2004, where he opened the season 1-8 and lost his job. " (Link - Dave Wannstedt has suddenly become a hot coaching commodity) Let's get that Soup Strainer signed and on the sidelines this season! GO BILLSSS!!!! 19 and 0 baby!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggsinatruck Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 If we hire Wannstedt, I vow to grow the most glorious (and by glorious I mean I'll be 22 next season so it won't be very good) mustache of all time throughout next season. Mustache growth has less to do with age and more to do with testosterone or a lack thereof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Klein Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Mustache growth has less to do with age and more to do with testosterone or a lack thereof... doops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 just wonder what the D will look like ifhe is hired. he is a 43 guy. better for kelsay ****ty for merriman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I don't think anyone on the defensive staff has his unit performing well. The issue is the eternal question: is it the players, or is it the coaches? If we were loaded with what everyone in the league recognized as top-tier talent and were underperforming, you're absolutely right no one would bat an eye. But we're not. Giving his chosen hand-picked coaching staff only one year to implement a new system with questionable talent would be seen as: 1) bad judgment on Chan's part in choosing the wrong staff 2) disloyalty/blame shifting to his staff No one of quality wants to put his reputation and career into a situation like that. So yeah, the coaching community would be batting their eyes. Which is why Chan won't do it. I also doubt he'd do it. But most outsiders would trade Wannstedt and whoever he brings in (or retains) for the Bills' defensive coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Seriously, it would be sweet if DW joined the Bills coaching staff. The guy brings a lot of credibility. I remember his strategy on causing turnovers so the defensive players could "scoop and score". (Just like the cowboys did to the Bills in Supe XXVII ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Think hybrid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Greg Manusky appears in line for the SD D Coordinators role.... Manusky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 This is to say the least an encouraging developement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 just got posted on pro football talk that san diego is set to hire greg manusky dc. Linky http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/13/report-chargers-set-to-name-greg-manusky-defensive-coordinator/ Sweet. Hopefully Wanny comes to Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 just wonder what the D will look like ifhe is hired. he is a 43 guy. better for kelsay ****ty for merriman If he were ILB coach, it would imply 3-4.... Also almost every team runs a little of each unless you have specialized personnel like undersized cover 2 players. Last, I'd assume Edwards would still be in charge of his defense with DW acting as a peer and consultant, not as Edwards boss. Attending meetings for gameplanning that would normally be only HC, OC, and DC for gameplanning as an additional role. Perhaps input on personnel beyond LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Word on ProFootballTalk is that the Chargers are signing Manusky as Defensive Coordinator. That is a big, big plus for us, here. Wannstdedt was also linked to that job, perhaps the only one with as much of a connection as this Gailey staff. So, with that out, and with us probably set to offer him Assist. Head Coach, Defensive consultant type position - we could stand to really have a nice core of coaches in place. Man, if we landed him... it would leave Nix the job to just stock us up with players - and, according to Merriman's interview, it sounded like Nix was planning on adding some real quality competition this offseason. So, things could be looking up. I'm all for a hybrid defense. We have guys that can play in a 3-4, albeit we need more help there, but I think our 4-3 look could be really lethal if we add a D-lineman like Bowers or Dareus or Fairley. Imagine a 4 man front of Fairley, Troupe, Williams, and Carrington. Yeah. Or, Bowers, Troupe, Williams, Carrington. And, behind them, Moats, Poz, Merriman? That would be tough to run against, and could be hard on the QB in passing downs. How would Fairley line up in a 3-4? Would it be Fairley, Williams, Carrington? It would be Bowers, Williams, Carrington if we drafted him, but that seems so out-of-position for Bowers, the 3-4, that I doubt we'd draft him. Rather, Dareus, Williams, Carrington. That's nice. Behind which we'd have Moats/Kelsay, Batten, Poz, and Merriman? Could be pretty good, I guess. The 4-3 looks better to me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I can't decide if I'm happy that we're talking about adding the first legit DC to our team since Dick LeBeau was here wet nursing Jerry Gray (ultimate fail letting him leave to keep Gray) or if I'm beyond distraught that I'm even entertaining the idea of being excited about the Wannstache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 How would Fairley line up in a 3-4? Would it be Fairley, Williams, Carrington? It would be Bowers, Williams, Carrington if we drafted him, but that seems so out-of-position for Bowers, the 3-4, that I doubt we'd draft him. Rather, Dareus, Williams, Carrington. That's nice. Behind which we'd have Moats/Kelsay, Batten, Poz, and Merriman? Could be pretty good, I guess. The 4-3 looks better to me, though. I'm never sure, but I think our best front there would be Williams-Troup-Fairley. It'd be an aggressive front, with neither end really playing 5 technique and instead shooting gaps. You'd need an LB on the strong side willing to close off a rushing lane - probably a job for Kelsay. Probably a job for someone better than Kelsay. Merriman could blitz. That'd be an excellent four man rush, though you'd really need Poz to show some ability to cover tight ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Giving his chosen hand-picked coaching staff only one year to implement a new system with questionable talent would be seen as: 1) bad judgment on Chan's part in choosing the wrong staff 2) disloyalty/blame shifting to his staff No one of quality wants to put his reputation and career into a situation like that. So yeah, the coaching community would be batting their eyes. Which is why Chan won't do it. Your point is valid, but I haven't seen any evidence yet that this regime (especially Nix) acts out of concern for what people around the league think. If I'm Gailey, I see in Wannstedt a guy I know and believe in, who's available and willing to consider Buffalo, and my one best chance to attract a "big fish" to make the team demonstrably better before my tenure as a HC in the NFL comes to an end. I do what I have to do, jettison who I have to jettison, to get this guy. Assistants get sold out all the time, every season, all over the league. Gailey has said that everyone, including coaches, is evaluated constantly. If he moves on Wannstedt, he's simply acting consistent with his words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Wanny has one hellz of a cookie duster stache. It would be awesome if he came on board. Wasn't he the DC for Dallas during their SB runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-wannstedtvisits&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Nothing new I guess... Edited January 14, 2011 by Heitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) Greg Manusky appears in line for the SD D Coordinators role.... Manusky no fooling i thuoght i posted that2 hours ago but thats ok Edited January 14, 2011 by shadowcat10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Man, if we landed him... it would leave Nix the job to just stock us up with players - Wouldn't this be the case regardless of Wannstedt coming or not? The Bills didn't stop the run before Edwards showed up. This has been a problem for the past few seasons. And there were a lot of folks ready to run Fewell out of town, said he was in over his head. Then they saw that the defense played hard, but lacked talent. Fewell goes to the Giants and for the most part do very well defensively. Why? Talent. If Wannstedt came and the talent was the same the Bills run D would STILL be terrible. Instead of sweating over DW sweat Nix getting more talent in the building and not just through the draft. I wouldn't mind DW being with the team, but perspective is needed. He's not a miracle worker any more than Edwards or Gailey are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 no fooling i thuoght i posted that2 hours ago but thats ok Sorry to step on your greatness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Sorry to step on your greatness... oh thats ok i was just joking with you if i offended you in any kind of way i apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory Bound Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Ralph needs to dip into his stash & hire the stache ...what's a little cash when our defense is considered trash? Then ban all people with the last name of "Edwards" from having anything to do with this organization again. BAM...playoffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) http://www.thefightingwannstaches.com/wp-content/uploads/wannstache_iphone.png Edited January 14, 2011 by Captain Caveman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikef272002 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 What is lame is that he can't just come take it over. That he has to deal w/ Edwards and his staff. If he wants to that's fine...but those people IMO should be working with him (should he come to buffalo) not the other way around. Basically I'm saying...if Wanny wants to come he should be the man. Plain and simple. Anything else is lame. What he'll be subordinate to some 1 year DC that had the worst Buffalo D of my life? That literally looked nonsensical at times? Hogwash. Here's what I figure is going down..Gaily don't wanna admit he made a mistake w/ Edwards as DC, but at the same time he want's to win. They fire the LB coach to make room for a new hire.. They want to bring in Wanny to be DC/Assistant HC, place Edwards to Linebackers coach / assistant DC, and tell everyone that Wanny is the new DC and that Edwards will be "learning" under Wanny. Same thing our Offensive Corr. does under gaily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Here's what I figure is going down..Gaily don't wanna admit he made a mistake w/ Edwards as DC, but at the same time he want's to win. They fire the LB coach to make room for a new hire.. They want to bring in Wanny to be DC/Assistant HC, place Edwards to Linebackers coach / assistant DC, and tell everyone that Wanny is the new DC and that Edwards will be "learning" under Wanny. Same thing our Offensive Corr. does under gaily. that is exactly what they would do if wanny porn stashy joins edwards was a lb coach for most of his career, but only an acting dc before coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Between Wannstache and Fitzbeard, the Bills would lead the league in awesome facial hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Here's what I figure is going down..Gaily don't wanna admit he made a mistake w/ Edwards as DC, but at the same time he want's to win. They fire the LB coach to make room for a new hire.. They want to bring in Wanny to be DC/Assistant HC, place Edwards to Linebackers coach / assistant DC, and tell everyone that Wanny is the new DC and that Edwards will be "learning" under Wanny. Same thing our Offensive Corr. does under gaily. Gailey admitted he made a mistake starting Trent Edwards by replacing him after 2 games. I think it's safe to say he's not afraid to admit his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I'll be hoping all weekend for some good news that the Bills have hired Wanny. It would be an immediate improvement by a large amount to our coaching staff. Wanny has a TON of big game and big team experience, he also has a great background at the college level. With those two attributes, he's exactly what our YOUNG team needs. A teacher, and a guy who has been there before, so when the youngin's get into a sticky situation, they can be coached out of it. He is basically the Gailey of the Defense. Git'r done Buddy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I'll be hoping all weekend for some good news that the Bills have hired Wanny. It would be an immediate improvement by a large amount to our coaching staff. Wanny has a TON of big game and big team experience, he also has a great background at the college level. With those two attributes, he's exactly what our YOUNG team needs. A teacher, and a guy who has been there before, so when the youngin's get into a sticky situation, they can be coached out of it. He is basically the Gailey of the Defense. Git'r done Buddy!! would be a great start to the off-season!if gailey wants him, which it appears, we just have to hope ralph comes up if wanny does , in fact, wanna be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beast34 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The best case scenario DW takes the job as asst. head coach defense tutoring GE for a season or too, and most importantly is up in the coaches box on gameday to advise both Edwards and Gailey. Which is what LeBeau did with Perry Fewell. That way in a year or two when DW takes a new position somewhere else we won't have to start over again with a new Defensive Coordinator and scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The best case scenario DW takes the job as asst. head coach defense tutoring GE for a season or too, and most importantly is up in the coaches box on gameday to advise both Edwards and Gailey. Which is what LeBeau did with Perry Fewell. That way in a year or two when DW takes a new position somewhere else we won't have to start over again with a new Defensive Coordinator and scheme. Perry Fewell was a Dbacks coach with the Rams when Lebeau was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Gailey admitted he made a mistake starting Trent Edwards by replacing him after 2 games. I think it's safe to say he's not afraid to admit his mistakes. There's a big difference between the relationships with players & coaches. He coaxed Edwards out of the Florida job. So while that may have been a mistake, I'm sure he feels partly responsible for that (especially if he put on a hard sell) and wants to preserve Edwards' job for as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The best case scenario DW takes the job as asst. head coach defense tutoring GE for a season or too, and most importantly is up in the coaches box on gameday to advise both Edwards and Gailey. Which is what LeBeau did with Perry Fewell. That way in a year or two when DW takes a new position somewhere else we won't have to start over again with a new Defensive Coordinator and scheme. Jerry Gray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 GG: Outstanding point. I think that Edwards would go the college route and find a gig pretty quickly if Wannstedt was brought in. I don't see Wannstedt taking any job but the DC if he's hired by the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 GG: Outstanding point. I think that Edwards would go the college route and find a gig pretty quickly if Wannstedt was brought in. I don't see Wannstedt taking any job but the DC if he's hired by the Bills. why would he take a lower position if the Assist HC job is offered to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny4sum Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 that is exactly what they would do if wanny porn stashy joins edwards was a lb coach for most of his career, but only an acting dc before coming here If Gaily does want to protect Edwards, he just says we brought in DW to assist with the 4-3 as Edwards is a 3-4 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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