John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I got news for you Bulldog......yes Fitz is in fact a pretty good QB... Does he have some erratic throws yes..... Does he throw some interceptions....yes....... He is still a damn fine QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 why in the heck are you listening to WGR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 why in the heck are you listening to WGR? Cuz im on the West Coast and its all I got... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) The Edge does a postgame show, no? looks like they do: http://www.wedg.com/article.asp?id=552973 Stop supporting WGR by listening to it. The only way to see change there is to hurt their ratings. They continually advertise how happy they are to have people listening to the idiots they have on there just to see how idiotic they can be.. Edited November 21, 2010 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 If we had a rookie QB playing like Fitz.....we would all be think we had just drafted a HOF'er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 How is this any different from Kelly's 3 int in the 1st half 5 TD game vs. the Bengals? Bulldog is retarded apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Point of View Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) I like Fitz.... Edited November 21, 2010 by Another Point of View Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 If we had a rookie QB playing like Fitz.....we would all be think we had just drafted a HOF'er This comment is so misused its not even funny...regardless if you are talking about Fitz or any other vet. If this was a rookie, he would still be learning the game and assumed he would only keep getting better. Fitz is not a rookie, and has FIRMLY established himself to have poor accuracty issues that plague him with no signs of that improving. There is a huge difference between a rookie learning how to play at this level and a Vet playing at about his cieling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Thanks Jeremy....bye bye Bulldog As I was signing off a caller was calling in arguement with Bulldog as he basically said the same thing again. I love how someone calls in and politely disagrees and they tear him apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 This comment is so misused its not even funny...regardless if you are talking about Fitz or any other vet. If this was a rookie, he would still be learning the game and assumed he would only keep getting better. Fitz is not a rookie, and has FIRMLY established himself to have poor accuracty issues that plague him with no signs of that improving. There is a huge difference between a rookie learning how to play at this level and a Vet playing at about his cieling. OMG you're still talking like this after the guy regains his composure and has that outing?? Weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I've lost a lot of respect for Bulldog and Schopp today. (not that i had much to begin with!). They are bringing negativity to a day when our QB has a fabulous day, after a not so great start. The franchise QB, Palmer, had a great start and a bad ending. it happens. All QBs don't play awesome for 4 Qtrs. Fitz is clearly a starting level QB in the NFL and these guys act like he's John Beck...3rd stringer that happens to be having a decent year. Trent Edwards never did one eighth in his career of what Fitz has done in 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Wow, seriously? What a fuggin loser. Does he have trouble pronouncing R's too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I 90 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Just how bad has the quarterback play been for the last decade if Fitz "is just not good"? I could watch him play for a few years while they sort through the rest of their many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I feel sorry for Bulldog - his station tells him to be negative, but at this point the only thing to be negative about is 6 months away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 This comment is so misused its not even funny...regardless if you are talking about Fitz or any other vet. If this was a rookie, he would still be learning the game and assumed he would only keep getting better. Fitz is not a rookie, and has FIRMLY established himself to have poor accuracty issues that plague him with no signs of that improving. There is a huge difference between a rookie learning how to play at this level and a Vet playing at about his cieling. OK. I'll take this ceiling. On the list of things this team needs to improve, QB is down there, especially when you factor in leadership. This TEAM got better the instant Fitz took over. That would take next to forever for a rookie. BTW, 316 yards, 4 TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I hate the Bills ! Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Who cares what the guy on th radios says he get paid to stir things up to keep the shows ratings up. Bottom line he was wrong ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 The thing is Fitz brings things to the position that go FAAARRR beyond his passing. - Bulldog said that athletically Fitz is just not that good....WHAT...Fitz athletically is a very good QB.....he is elusive...he buys time in the pocket.....and he can run - For all of his talk about lack of arm strength......I dont agree with that either.........he has accuracy issues that have nothing to do with arm strength - He gives this team a calm confidence.......he isn't a ra ra guy what he does is go out and lead by example....you dont see him getting in a WR face......he simply comes out and calmly goes right back at it again with confidence. Fitz is my QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) OMG you're still talking like this after the guy regains his composure and has that outing?? Weak Huh? Wasnt talking just about Fitz, was talking about the misuse of this comment I see all the time..."if a rookie did this, you would say this"...rookies and vets are not fair comparisons as rookies are still learning to adjust to the game and how to play at this level where a Vet has had much more experience to better evaluate his potential and cieling. Case in point, not one GM in football would take Fitz over Bradford right now despite the better stats. But since you went there...are you saying Fitz doesnt have accuracy issues? How about the 10 to 14 point gift to start the game that Cincy gave us? You know the INT that was overturned by a late hit that led to our first 7 points that easily would have been 3 to 7 points for Cincy? Big props to him for his 2nd half, but that doesnt change the fact that Fitz has accuracy issues...sorry Either way, it was fun to watch and a great 2nd half after an embarrasing first half by all our units. Edited November 21, 2010 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born to Run Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 They are employees of the Sabres. Howard Simon was blaming the Bills for the fans early season disgust of the hockey team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 This comment is so misused its not even funny...regardless if you are talking about Fitz or any other vet. If this was a rookie, he would still be learning the game and assumed he would only keep getting better. Fitz is not a rookie, and has FIRMLY established himself to have poor accuracty issues that plague him with no signs of that improving. There is a huge difference between a rookie learning how to play at this level and a Vet playing at about his cieling. UMMMM...that is why I pointed out there would be two standards....if this was a rookie performance it would be a viewed as a sign of the second coming of (well third I guess with fergy and kelly) of #12....instead it's just an aberration in an otherwise mediocre career... Fits may not be Brady but he is well in the upper half of Qb's in this league and seems to be improving ....no need to knock him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 OK. I'll take this ceiling. On the list of things this team needs to improve, QB is down there, especially when you factor in leadership. This TEAM got better the instant Fitz took over. That would take next to forever for a rookie. BTW, 316 yards, 4 TDs. Yes, it is way better with Fitz then Trent...totally agree...I really like Fitz and how he plays, just not as our long term answer unless he fixes his accuracy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) http://www.justin.tv/coachsal/#/w/575213728 Call me a shill but Sal is 100X better than than Dope & the Lapdog. Bulldog couldn't find his a$$ with a map and both hands. PTR Edited November 21, 2010 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The lapdog strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Huh? Wasnt talking just about Fitz, was talking about the misuse of this comment I see all the time..."if a rookie did this, you would say this"...rookies and vets are not fair comparisons as rookies are still learning to adjust to the game and how to play at this level where a Vet has had much more experience to better evaluate his potential and cieling. Case in point, not one GM in football would take Fitz over Bradford right now despite the better stats. But since you went there...are you saying Fitz doesnt have accuracy issues? How about the 10 to 14 point gift to start the game that Cincy gave us? You know the INT that was overturned by a late hit that led to our first 7 points that easily would have been 3 to 7 points for Cincy? Big props to him for his 2nd half, but that doesnt change the fact that Fitz has accuracy issues...sorry Either way, it was fun to watch and a great 2nd half after an embarrasing first half by all our units. Let me ask you this Alpha and see if you agree......if Fitz was a accurate QB all of the time then he would already have been going to multiple pro bowls and we never would have been able to get him away from Cinci know? My point is you are right.....he throws a bad ball here and there....and he throws picks....but his other strengths are making up for that. That is why I am thinking we need to go heavy line on both sides of the ball.....linebackers.....and a GOOD Tight End. Im not sure we would have lost a game since Fitz took over if we had a dominant defense that created turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Huh? Wasnt talking just about Fitz, was talking about the misuse of this comment I see all the time..."if a rookie did this, you would say this"...rookies and vets are not fair comparisons as rookies are still learning to adjust to the game and how to play at this level where a Vet has had much more experience to better evaluate his potential and cieling. Case in point, not one GM in football would take Fitz over Bradford right now despite the better stats. But since you went there...are you saying Fitz doesnt have accuracy issues? How about the 10 to 14 point gift to start the game that Cincy gave us? You know the INT that was overturned by a late hit that led to our first 7 points that easily would have been 3 to 7 points for Cincy? Big props to him for his 2nd half, but that doesnt change the fact that Fitz has accuracy issues...sorry Either way, it was fun to watch and a great 2nd half after an embarrasing first half by all our units. True. No one is arguing that. But, that really is his only major problem. My question, and one I can't answer, is can he improve his accuracy over time? None the less, all QBs have bad games or bad halves and throw bad passes. The question is are they more bad than good? So far this season, I would say Fitz has been more good than bad. So, I'll readily take him as our starter. But, I do hope he can correct some of his accuracy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 http://www.justin.tv/coachsal/#/w/575213728 Call me a shill but Sal is 100X better than than Dope & the Lapdog. Bulldog couldn't find his a$$ with a map and both hands. PTR Agreed, Sal's show is the best. Write to WGR to hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Agreed, Sal's show is the best. Write to WGR to hire him. Sal doesn't need them. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Cuz im on the West Coast and its all I got... WECK needs to do a post game show ... someone needs to for all of us who live out of town ... Huge comeback ... Fitz poured it on and yet Bulldog still is dreaming his bizarre dreams! I think it's time for him to start a post game list game of people's favorite cities to visit because Bulldog seems more comfortable doing that then talking BILLS football after a second win in a row (I know it's not the stuff of Super Bowl titles but come on ... we want to savor this moment because these mixed up Bills have actually beaten two NFL opponents in a row including a come from behind road win where after they got screwed by the officials at the end of the 1st half the team could have just given up.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 True. No one is arguing that. But, that really is his only major problem. My question, and one I can't answer, is can he improve his accuracy over time? None the less, all QBs have bad games or bad halves and throw bad passes. The question is are they more bad than good? So far this season, I would say Fitz has been more good than bad. So, I'll readily take him as our starter. But, I do hope he can correct some of his accuracy issues. Kelly had more than his share of bad games. The great QBs overcome them. Too early to crown Fitz but he's shown me that he can make clutch plays. Still 6 more games to judge. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 dog sees Andrew Luck slipping away and is reacting accordingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Time to start looking at Bowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Fitz's averages over 16 games = 3,966 yds and 36 TD's. He's not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 What is a reasonable number of subpar games for a QB in a 16 game season? Really. I know Brady, Manning, brees, Ben, Rivers, etc don't have 16 great games a year. What is a fair number to compare Fitz to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlyssesNorris Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) why in the heck are you listening to WGR? Could not agree more!If you are a bills fan do yourself a favor and STOP listening to WGR! you will be very happy you did. Edited November 21, 2010 by UlyssesNorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 dog sees Andrew Luck slipping away and is reacting accordingly You mean the same Luck who's said nothing to indicate he will be in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 To be fair, I will admit that I was all off the Fitz bandwagon after the first half and the back on it at the end of the game. I am such a fickle fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 What is a reasonable number of subpar games for a QB in a 16 game season? Really. I know Brady, Manning, brees, Ben, Rivers, etc don't have 16 great games a year. What is a fair number to compare Fitz to? 3.5 duh:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightinIrishBills Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 They are employees of the Sabres. Howard Simon was blaming the Bills for the fans early season disgust of the hockey team. I actually like Howard Simon and Jeremy White, but that was atrocious. It actually made me call in and tell them that no, people were disappointed with the Sabres because the Sabres were playing like a big sack of crap at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 why in the heck are you listening to WGR? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Fitz has played very well. There is no reason to dismiss what he has done for the Bills. In fact, one of the interceptions today was not really his fault. Evans did not come back for the ball and let the CB beat him to it. I go back and forth on this. I think Luck is going to be a very good QB in the NFL. Unfortunately, I am not convinced that he would declare for the draft if we were to have the number one pick. Regardless of what happens, we are going to have a productive QB next year (Fitz) and be able to fill a whole by taking the best player available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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