smuvtalker Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Harrison, who was fined $75,000 for a hit that knocked Mohamed Massaquoi out of the Steelers' win over the Cleveland Browns, said Tuesday on Fox Sports Radio's "Into The Night with Tony Bruno" that he might consider retirement. "I'm going to sit down and have a serious conversation with my coach tomorrow and see if I can actually play by NFL rules and still be effective," Harrison told guest host Judy McDonald. "If not, I may have to give up playing football." Boo hoo James. This guy has got to be kidding me! You get fined 75,000 for hits that were obviously with intent to harm, and now you're ready to give up football?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Whaa. My brute strength and unbelievable football skills can't adapt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 LMAO So he considers cheap shots playing football? Hey hit the bricks ahole. These head to head shots are uncalled for and you are taking a chance on ruining someone elses career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 to be fair, only one of those was really a cheap shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 to be fair, only one of those was really a cheap shot. I couldn't care less about the hits. I just find his woe-is-me response chuckle-worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Let's just hope it happens before the game against us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobshaw81 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 He is a grown man and crying, whining, like a little baby. Its funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Man Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 This has the same feeling as one of the weekly "I am done with the Bills forever" threads. Weak and whine filled. There is something to be said about the continuing pu55ification of the NFL though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 James Harrison excused from practice Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 20, 2010 12:24 PM ET It looks like Steelers linebacker James Harrison is taking this retirement charade a little further... Link - PFT/NBC Sports What a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfaninvgs Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 He is full of poop..... He is talking out of butt... He isn't going to retire. He is just trying to play the victim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Fontes Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Is his wife is exempt from the new head-shot rules? He might need a divorce after he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 It would have been better if the NFL took the decision out of his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 James Harrison excused from practice Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 20, 2010 12:24 PM ET It looks like Steelers linebacker James Harrison is taking this retirement charade a little further... Link - PFT/NBC Sports What a child. Wow...this dude is a drama queen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I think he's a dirty player overall. He joins a long list of Stiller LB's with this mantle. Unfortunatey, he can't be trusted to follow through on what he says.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 LMAO So he considers cheap shots playing football? Hey hit the bricks ahole. These head to head shots are uncalled for and you are taking a chance on ruining someone elses career. The thing that bothers me is his attitude. He plays a physical game which I like and sometimes guys get caught up in the moment and go too far. I can live with that. But Harrison is happy to hurt people. He likes doing it and thinks he hasn't really injured the player if they're just "taking a little nap." I'm not sure how a player can have this attitude/PoV in 2010 when everybody knows how serious concussions are but I'd be happy if all players with this attitude retired so guys who are out there just trying to help their team win while not demolishing another player's career can get the accolades they deserve. And btw, WTF is up with the player's union? Why is it that they only protect the interests of their member's wallets and not their health? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Please retire. No one will miss you after this pathetic response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Isn’t there a little bit of hypocrisy here folks? Granted I’m all for players getting fined or suspended for blatant illegal hits. But out of one side of the NFL’s mouth they’re saying we’re worried about player safety and then out of the other they say they want an 18 game regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 My my my. One of the dirtiest players in the league the last few years is protesting his justly deserved punishment. Cry me a freaking river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'm sure his 2nd career in molecular engineering awaits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamtenp Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Harrison, who was fined $75,000 for a hit that knocked Mohamed Massaquoi out of the Steelers' win over the Cleveland Browns, said Tuesday on Fox Sports Radio's "Into The Night with Tony Bruno" that he might consider retirement. "I'm going to sit down and have a serious conversation with my coach tomorrow and see if I can actually play by NFL rules and still be effective," Harrison told guest host Judy McDonald. "If not, I may have to give up playing football." Boo hoo James. This guy has got to be kidding me! You get fined 75,000 for hits that were obviously with intent to harm, and now you're ready to give up football?? The only way he knows how to play the game is by using violence.We have reached such a low point in the NFL. That is the most stupid and retarded statement I have ever heard from an NFL player. Retire because he does not know how else to play the game!!! What a moron!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 And yet nobody stopped the NFL from making profit out of one of his hits. The NFL made a "mistake" having photos of Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison's hit on Cleveland Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi available for sale through its website and will take the photos down, spokesman Greg Aiello said Wednesday. Harrison was fined $75,000 for the hit. Pittsburgh television station KDKA first reported that the photos were for sale. "We regret the mistake," Aiello said. "The photos will be taken down and we will ensure that no photos of illegal plays will be available again. An outside vendor uses an automated process to post photos for sale to fans. We will fix the process immediately." The NFL is cracking down on illegal hits to the head, vowing to suspend players for infractions starting with this weekend's games. In the past, players were either fined or ejected for illegal hits. However, after the series of recent flagrant tackles, several of which resulted in concussions, the NFL ramped up the punishment. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5706132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 After watching the HBO real sports follow up show on head trauma, these hits have to stop. The NFL doesn't have a choice. Not only is it bad for the players but they will be in lawsuit hell if they don't act. For Harrison to come out acting like this is completely irresponsible. For the folks who have never gone to an NFL practice, you may not know how violent this sport is. Watching on tv or in the stands doesn't give the violence it's due respect. These men are colliding at disturbing levels on every play. When you add hitting to the head to that mix it's alarming how someone wouldn't support the regulation of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Somebody should cheap shot him so he can ponder cheap shots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffmonster Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) I didn't see this out there, but I agree with Schlereth. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5706315&categoryid=2378529 Edited October 20, 2010 by Brimley's Stache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) I just responded the Yahoo! article on my facebook page. Here is what I wrote ... Sure ... I agree with the players that we don't want to sissy-fy the NFL ... but the same problem is happening with the NHL. The common solution to both leagues' problem? Pare down the equipment ... these guys are this reckless with their hits because they will NOT feel the impact that they deliver. Take away the facemask on the players and see how they respond. Stop making shoulder pads (in the NHL, especially) that are made of ABS plastic so that the body is completely protected. Special, hardened plastics & metals have no place in the sports. Then, in the case of the NFL ... the only thing that needs to be policed is if the player lowers the head to use the crown of the helmet. Sorry, Mr. Daniels (read the article, he says "Have we become a cupcake league? We already have better helmets and gear.") ... you are a cupcake league because you're hiding behind the better helmets & gear. Edited October 20, 2010 by pkwwjd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 After watching the HBO real sports follow up show on head trauma, these hits have to stop. The NFL doesn't have a choice. Not only is it bad for the players but they will be in lawsuit hell if they don't act. For Harrison to come out acting like this is completely irresponsible. For the folks who have never gone to an NFL practice, you may not know how violent this sport is. Watching on tv or in the stands doesn't give the violence it's due respect. These men are colliding at disturbing levels on every play. When you add hitting to the head to that mix it's alarming how someone wouldn't support the regulation of that. I totally agree. I think part of the problem is these segments called Jacked-Up and stuff like that. The players are going for the big hit instead of fundamental tackling. I love seeing the athleticsm of a great open field tackle - I don't need somebody to be jacked up in order to enjoy the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 What a loser, even if he plays for a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 As Johnny Ringo once said, "Well...bye." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Harrison, who was fined $75,000 for a hit that knocked Mohamed Massaquoi out of the Steelers' win over the Cleveland Browns, said Tuesday on Fox Sports Radio's "Into The Night with Tony Bruno" that he might consider retirement. "I'm going to sit down and have a serious conversation with my coach tomorrow and see if I can actually play by NFL rules and still be effective," Harrison told guest host Judy McDonald. "If not, I may have to give up playing football." Boo hoo James. This guy has got to be kidding me! You get fined 75,000 for hits that were obviously with intent to harm, and now you're ready to give up football?? So one minute he's bragging about his cheap shots and the next he's crying and threating to run home? Waaah....pay attention to me!! What a POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) If you have the chance, listen to the podcast of Coach Sal's Bills Now show from yesterday. He makes a good point that the increased number of blows to the head is due to a growing number of players who don't know how to tackle properly...that even guys in the NFL have not been drilled on proper tackling technique since their Pop Warner days, maybe not even then. He says that anyone making a proper tackle has their head up and wraps the player before bringing them down. Using your head like a missile is not how you do it. PTR Edited October 20, 2010 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 If you have the chance, listen to the podcast of Coach Sal's Bills Now show from yesterday. He makes a good point that the increased number of blows to the head is due to an growing number of players who don't know how to tackle properly...that even guys in the NFL have not been drilled on proper tackling technique since their Pop Warner days, maybe not even then. He says that anyone making a proper tackle has their head up and wraps the player before bringing them down. Using you head like a missile is not how you do it. PTR +1 And that is the point of what I said ... stop using the equipment to do what the body was intended to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 harrison pondering retirement???.....laughable.......he's just mad cause he's a little lighter in the pocket...nothing he can do about it.....and will probably be fined again.....guaranteed he will play sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) harrison pondering retirement???.....laughable.......he's just mad cause he's a little lighter in the pocket...nothing he can do about it.....and will probably be fined again.....guaranteed he will play sunday. I know this argument is from another thread...but Harrison was an undrafted free agent from that college football powerhouse Kent State. Just getting that out there PTR Edited October 20, 2010 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) As Johnny Ringo once said, "Well...bye." That was Curly Bill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfYQOSSPqc Edited October 20, 2010 by Stl Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 If you have the chance, listen to the podcast of Coach Sal's Bills Now show from yesterday. He makes a good point that the increased number of blows to the head is due to a growing number of players who don't know how to tackle properly...that even guys in the NFL have not been drilled on proper tackling technique since their Pop Warner days, maybe not even then. He says that anyone making a proper tackle has their head up and wraps the player before bringing them down. Using your head like a missile is not how you do it. PTR I'm not so sure that its about them not knowing how to tackle, but more about the whole culture of making that big hit. They can make those tackles, but there's no attention gained by doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 There can still be hard hits in football. Just no helmet to helmet. I don't see what the big deal is. James Harrison is just a thug in football gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Hey guys, helmet to helmet hits happen even if you try to avoid them. After interviewing Booker Edgerson, it is apparent that older players tackled with better form, but even then concussions happened. The whole sentiment of being more reckless due to better equipment, may be valid and studies may have to be done. Here is one question I have to ask. Why don't more players have protective shells like Mark Kelso did? It just seems like common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 If you have the chance, listen to the podcast of Coach Sal's Bills Now show from yesterday. He makes a good point that the increased number of blows to the head is due to a growing number of players who don't know how to tackle properly...that even guys in the NFL have not been drilled on proper tackling technique since their Pop Warner days, maybe not even then. He says that anyone making a proper tackle has their head up and wraps the player before bringing them down. Using your head like a missile is not how you do it. PTR Bingo - this is the main problem. ESPN talked about it Sunday night, also. If you tackle the right way, the concussions and injuries decrease. I'm in favor of the fines. Players like Harrison are just out there to make plays (in his case, hurt people) and generally ignore their coaching. What I'd say to Harrison? "Go ahead and retire. Good luck finding a job making more than 5 figures, forget about anything above 6 figures. There will be about 600 guys lining up to take your job, too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Hey guys, helmet to helmet hits happen even if you try to avoid them. After interviewing Booker Edgerson, it is apparent that older players tackled with better form, but even then concussions happened. The whole sentiment of being more reckless due to better equipment, may be valid and studies may have to be done. Here is one question I have to ask. Why don't more players have protective shells like Mark Kelso did? It just seems like common sense. To this point, there was a study done a few years ago designed to rid concussions and neck injuries. A new helmet was designed that was actually part of/attached to the shoulder pads. The head was away from the sides of the helmet and stationary -like racecar rigs. You could turn your head inside the helmet without the helmet turning. The 'problem' was the look. They look like astronauts/robots, and the study was shelved. I'm sure it could be brought up off Google. I wasn't keen on the look either, but it looks like the game equipment may be going that way in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 It's impossible to tackle "correct" every time because the players involved are each moving, oftentimes at full speed, and making positional adjustments while doing so. A player can be sound technically and be in position to make a form tackle and can end up making helmet to helmet contact. Oftentimes a very fine line exists between a great tackle and a blow to the head. I think the problem is the league hasn't properly defined what's illegal and what is allowed. Is the rule only applicable to a defenseless receiver? And what is a defenseless receiver? Are they only concerned with head to head blows? Is a shoulder or a chest or an arm or a leg blow to the head OK? All can do the same, serious damage to the defender. What if the defender places himself in danger by allowing his head to be impacted by the defender. Should this be the defenders fault and open him up to fine and suspension? And who's to judge the fault in such cases? The NFL. They might not be an exactly impartial party seeing as how the Commish is a former Jet employee. I'm sure that what Harrison did yesterday he's done countless times before and never was penalized nor fined and certainly not suspended. Could you imagine if this incident happened the game before the super bowl and Harrison was suspended for the game because of something he's done countless times in his career? I think the NFL acted hastily on this without properly doing their due diligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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