John from Riverside Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Trent had two games....stuck up the joint....they benched him We all know what we have in Fitz.....he comes out throws for 250 yards with the same group....we make a game of it against the pats....they cut Trent This new leadership does not care about opinions or what people think....they dont do things based on perceptions outside of the organization. They know Trent is not the guy...they made a move cuz there was not reason to even keep him.....and nobody was going to take him off our hands and give us anything..... Now we have an open roster spot...I wonder what they will do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b stein 22 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Trent had two games....stuck up the joint....they benched him We all know what we have in Fitz.....he comes out throws for 250 yards with the same group....we make a game of it against the pats....they cut Trent This new leadership does not care about opinions or what people think....they dont do things based on perceptions outside of the organization. They know Trent is not the guy...they made a move cuz there was not reason to even keep him.....and nobody was going to take him off our hands and give us anything..... Now we have an open roster spot...I wonder what they will do? Now they need to draft better and fill holes in our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip Smith Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I do respect decisiveness. You end up in the poorhouse or the penthouse quicker, but you eliminate a decade of "successful mediocrity" like the Dolphins would have or even the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 This move has Ralph's name written all over it. He definitely didn't want to pay Trent for the remainder of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 that may get carrington dressed on gameday. i hope........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Wake up Call: There is no "new leadership" with the old man still around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 What I respect is winning football games. Show me you know how to actually do that Buddy and Chan and I'll have some respect for you. Right now I'm seeing two guys who took a mediocre football team and made it into the worst team in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 This move has Ralph's name written all over it. He definitely didn't want to pay Trent for the remainder of the season. That only works if he doesn't clear waivers... I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 That only works if he doesn't clear waivers... I think. Doesn't matter either way - The Bills are done paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 that may get carrington dressed on gameday. i hope........... probably not -- the whole 3rd quarterback not counting against your 45 on gameday means that it shouldnt effect who suits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Once a player makes the 53 man roster, their contract is guaranteed for the remainder of the season. So yes Trent will be paid by the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) Once a player makes the 53 man roster, their contract is guaranteed for the remainder of the season. So yes Trent will be paid by the bills. Sorry chief... Player contracts are not guaranteed; teams are only required to pay on the contract as long as the player remains a member of the team. If the player is cut, or quits, for any reason, the balance of the contract is voided and the player receives no further compensation. http://askthecommish.com/salarycap/faq.asp Edited September 27, 2010 by ACor58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanners Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 What I respect is winning football games. Show me you know how to actually do that Buddy and Chan and I'll have some respect for you. Right now I'm seeing two guys who took a mediocre football team and made it into the worst team in football. You're kidding right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARCO186 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I agree 100%. I think they go after a defensive player. We need more Lb"s and can always use a d-lineman or even an offensive RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 This move has Ralph's name written all over it. He definitely didn't want to pay Trent for the remainder of the season. Um, no. Since he's a vet and was on the roster the first game of the year Ralph is on the hook for his salary the rest of the year. But conspiracy theory is fun! What I respect is winning football games. Show me you know how to actually do that Buddy and Chan and I'll have some respect for you. Right now I'm seeing two guys who took a mediocre football team and made it into the worst team in football. Hey captain crusader -- look up the word "rebuilding" and tell me what it means. You clearly don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Trent had two games....stuck up the joint....they benched him We all know what we have in Fitz.....he comes out throws for 250 yards with the same group....we make a game of it against the pats....they cut Trent This new leadership does not care about opinions or what people think....they dont do things based on perceptions outside of the organization. They know Trent is not the guy...they made a move cuz there was not reason to even keep him.....and nobody was going to take him off our hands and give us anything..... Now we have an open roster spot...I wonder what they will do? Only problem with this is the move probably came from the top (RW) in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Yes, spending the entire offseason evaluating QB talent and then just arriving at the obvious conclusion that Trent is no good after two weeks and cutting him from the team is a hallmark of a good front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 What I respect is winning football games. Show me you know how to actually do that Buddy and Chan and I'll have some respect for you. Right now I'm seeing two guys who took a mediocre football team and made it into the worst team in football. That's where your logic is off. Mediocre might as well be worst. Either way a team isn't winning enough. Sometimes you have to weed out the junk and you take a step back to begin moving forward. The new regime is doing okay for now. Won't happen overnight so save yourself the angst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8PRKN Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Sorry chief... Player contracts are not guaranteed; teams are only required to pay on the contract as long as the player remains a member of the team. If the player is cut, or quits, for any reason, the balance of the contract is voided and the player receives no further compensation. http://askthecommish.com/salarycap/faq.asp Correct. However he is on the roster as a Vet and will get his entire years pay if he had additional years on his contract they would not pay.... Which to your post would be "the balance" and therfore no more $$$$ Don't spend your 500k to quick trent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Correct. However he is on the roster as a Vet and will get his entire years pay if he had additional years on his contract they would not pay.... Which to your post would be "the balance" and therfore no more $$$$ Don't spend your 500k to quick trent.... My bad - in that case, I am sure Ralph was against thsi move. Ralph would rather he sell programs then pay him after he fired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Decisive is cutting off your arm. It doesn't make it a good move, but it's definite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Decisive is cutting off your arm. It doesn't make it a good move, but it's definite. So which move of the current regime is the equivalent of cutting off your arm (as your analogy implies) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Decisive is cutting off your arm. It doesn't make it a good move, but it's definite. Unless you're trapped by a boulder at the bottom of a canyon with no other way of getting out or receiving help. Then it's a great idea to avoid dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Only problem with this is the move probably came from the top (RW) in my opinion. I was wondering if Commander Checkdown's favorite fan would show up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I was wondering if Commander Checkdown's favorite fan would show up today. Nope, I'm still here and still backing our starting QB, (Ryan Fitzpatrick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Decisive? More like clueless. Edwards won the starting job in camp, started two games, got benched and then cut. That's ridiculous. A total joke. They didn't see how awful he was in the regular season last year? They tape over games over something? Just another waste of time. They could have released him after last season and drafted a QB higher than the 7th round. So, when Fitzpatrick gets hurt, we are down to Brohm and TBA. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 27, 2010 Author Share Posted September 27, 2010 Yes, spending the entire offseason evaluating QB talent and then just arriving at the obvious conclusion that Trent is no good after two weeks and cutting him from the team is a hallmark of a good front office. Yes but they didn't get stubborn about it......they realized their mistake quick and took action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 If the Bills would make a trade for Kevin Kolb, you'd have the national media types falling over themselves congratulating Buffalo on a job well done. The national media are equivalent to somebody who bases all football opinions on playing Madden. Getting rid of somebody who can't get the job done...is a good enough plan for me as a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Correct. However he is on the roster as a Vet and will get his entire years pay if he had additional years on his contract they would not pay.... Which to your post would be "the balance" and therfore no more $$$$ Don't spend your 500k to quick trent.... In Buffalo you can live well on that for what, 10 years? Throw in a diploma from Stanford and past years salaries and I am guessing that he'll still be able to afford that premium hair gel. I wish him luck, I am glad the franchise is moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulfw Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I think that part of releasing Trent now was to send a clear message to the rest of the team to perform or your out. I would think twice about putting in a mediocre performance after this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Decisive? More like clueless. Edwards won the starting job in camp, started two games, got benched and then cut. That's ridiculous. A total joke. They didn't see how awful he was in the regular season last year? They tape over games over something? Just another waste of time. They could have released him after last season and drafted a QB higher than the 7th round. So, when Fitzpatrick gets hurt, we are down to Brohm and TBA. Nice. I love it - why do people (all the press, Tim Graham, dope and his lapdog, most posters) want to read so much more into this than there is? We all hoped that TE could be 5-1 TE rather than the other TE. He showed glimpses in preseason, and was given a bye because the old coaching regime was horrible and was given the start. Turned out - whelp - 5-1 TE is not here - in fact - scared TE is what is left. Why cut him? because it is awkward for him and the team to have him around - simple as that. There were no worthy QB's in last years draft - so Fitz services the team through the year and Brohm is moved up to #2 so he gets the snaps in practices. Again - no space for TE and you get to see if there is anything in Brohm. All seems reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonechiller Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I think its all Gailey. He wasn't going to do anything big in the off season, he's freakin re-building. He has to see what he has, his way, not how they did under the last coaching regime. We all agree Dick Jaron was terrible, and how could he trust what he saw under him. He got his shot and sucked, let him go and move on! I like the decisiveness. ( I was actually a fan of TE, but I must have had too much kool-aid, His head just aint right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roc Bronson Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Unless you're trapped by a boulder at the bottom of a canyon with no other way of getting out or receiving help. Then it's a great idea to avoid dying. If I'm in that situation I rather perish.. Shouldn't have had my ass there in the first place, I guess like trent shouldn't have been a starter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) Russ Brandon once had the idea that having a backup QB with experience on the roster wasn't all bad. (JP ) Edited September 27, 2010 by Sisyphean Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbillsfan12 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 They opened up a spot so that they can trade for Kolb. I say 3rd and a 5th. Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 They opened up a spot so that they can trade for Kolb. I say 3rd and a 5th. Just kidding. Or maybe another 230# DE with bad wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Only problem with this is the move probably came from the top (RW) in my opinion. I seriously doubt Ralph made this call. But if he did, GOOD FOR HIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Nope, I'm still here and still backing our starting QB, (Ryan Fitzpatrick) That's only because you're out of a job and now have nothing else to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 Decisive? More like clueless. Edwards won the starting job in camp, started two games, got benched and then cut. That's ridiculous. A total joke. They didn't see how awful he was in the regular season last year? They tape over games over something? Just another waste of time. They could have released him after last season and drafted a QB higher than the 7th round. So, when Fitzpatrick gets hurt, we are down to Brohm and TBA. Nice. You make a good point, but might remember that Edwards only could check down/throw 5 yards or run out of bounds...and Brohm can probably handle that. It looks like the Bills were hoping that they could salvage something out of Edwards because it was reported that they were trying to trade him since the off-season...but yeah, a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I agree. Why hang onto mediocrity? I sincerely had hoped Trent would rebound. When the regular season began and the same old Trent came out, and now after seeing Fitz against the hated Pats we have a better idea that our offensive suckitude- atleast in part, had Trent's name attached to it. Now, Fitz is not the answer. He is a used band-aid of a temporary solution. We will need an infusion of talent at this position (which makes me even more frustrated that Garcia was not signed for 1-2 seasons). Developing Brohm sounds exciting. But I don't get the "big time" feeling from him either. I think that the Bills need to finish cleaning house and get rid of the idiot responsible for all of these bad picks for the past decade: Tom Modrak. Improving our scouting ranks will go a long way towards improving our talent on the field. But for the short term, I like the decision making. It sends a strong message that nobody is safe. Hardy was released. Now Edwards. Players are being rewarded with playing time for effort (Parrish, Lynch, Jackson, and Spiller). This is the true cultural change that the Bills have needed. Nobody is good enough on this roster to be sacred. Untouchable. They all need to forget about Club Jauron, because that is long gone. Gailey is doing a nice job. Now I'd like to see the Bills get rid of dead weight Modrak, and I want to see Whaley and Nix work some magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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