C.Biscuit97

I would double down on my Allen MVP bet if the odds drop to + money. Lamar is not getting his 3rd MVP before a SB. Has that ever happened?

Example A of why the MVP race is dumb. Why is there anger towards Lamar? For getting better every year? For proving how dumb (and some racist) the takes were of him having to switch positions in the nfl after winning a Heisman? Lamar has the second best qb rating ever. Allen has been insane and gets better every year. I would take Allen over Lamar but both are damn good qbs who do it their own way after being seriously doubted. I get waiting to hammer the Ravens when we play them. But this “rivalry” some Bills fans have against Lamar because he’s in the MVP conversation is dumb. I think our OTs deserve some votes.

Honestly, I don’t think Lamar will win. MVP is also about narrative. There’s no way I see Lamar winning 3 before he wins a SB. Plus, and I hate it because it dismisses the rest of the team, most of the national media thinks the rest of the Bills are bums.

I’m very comfortable with myself but Freeman is the most handsome coach in my lifetime, slightly edging out Bill Belichick. I don’t think Leonard is a nfl qb and think he limits them. But he had some big plays and has a ton of heart. ND has one of the best defenses in the nfl but Allar was awful last night.

If Tua was healthy (and that’s a big if), they probably make the playoffs this year.

I believe the SB Bills completely dominated the NFC and I think twice beat the team they played in the SB in the regular season (Giants and Cowboys). They lost every time in the SB.

A lot better than Fine. St Brown, Branch, the Goff trade is one of the greatest trades ever, LaPorta, the RBs (which he got killed on for taking Gibbs that high) - that team is absolutely loaded. Im not taking away from how Greta those 2 guys and how much they helped. But they are also benefiting from being on an awesome team as well. Sewell could be Joe Thomas on the Browns and the Bengals had the sack leader. The lions are a great franchise and makes olayers reach their ceiling. I don’t disagree but there is a difference between LT and RT. Odds are he will be amazing but he still really hasn’t done it at the nfl level. and based on the way he made Darold (and every qb he has played with) not look like a scrub, I’d go Jefferson. But we’re splitting hairs.

That’s a great point. Also because Allen was never a star or played in an elite program, he has no ego like some of the big name college guys. He was a mold of clay that was willing to listen. And those type of prospects fail 99%of the time. I hate the high upside, not great production prospects. I remember saying we expect a guy to be better in the AFC East than he was in the Mountain West? I couldn’t believe how dumb that sounded and the Bills/ Allen made me the dumb one for once!!! and I don’t care. I still think Rosen could have had a better career if he didn’t get drafted into the worst situation for a rookie qb. It’s insane how much faster/ athletic he looks in pads than he did running in shorts. It makes no sense. Josh Alien.

I feel like some of that is hindsight. Are the Bengals really dumb for taking Chase? Or the Jags for taking Lawrence who was thought to be a generational qb talent (never got it but he was)? Sewell is a RT. Most teams can’t afford to take a RT that high. Never got Walker going #2. That was incredibly stupid. I think when you start stacking up good players, it raises up the talent you have. Some of those players aren’t as good on other teams. We are living in a world where the Bills and Lions are model nfl teams. The world is about to end,

I readily own doubting Josh. I doubted that Bills would be competent enough to develop a qb like Allen. Salute to him for making huge changes that 99% of qbs could never do. Never been happier to wrong. Josh Alien is a unicorn

I’ll be honest. I hated when Moorman was the face of our franchise (I can say that because one of my good friends was a college punter). I hated the Punt God saga. I think punter is the easiest, least pressure jobs in all of sports. And when we have an awesome qb, Idint care about the the punter (I thought his name was Chris Martin for awhile).

At the same point, the lions are absolutely loaded because Holmes might be the best GM in the nfl. I love Campbell but he is just the crazy guy who goes for on 4th down and is fired in 2 years if he’s the Raiders coach.

The thing with Allen is actually has too much of a personality to be a cyborg. Now Russell Wilson or Justin Herbert? 🤔

Obviously, I’m jealous that I didn’t have a friend whose dad was a NFL GM (I went to a real high school). But this type of hiring is terrible IMO. Some many talented football people who never get a chance d because they don’t have the right parents or connections. I guess that’s life.

I have never gotten our fascination with punters. We have Josh Allen, who cares haha.

Not sure if this has been shared but I thought this was awesome. He is truly a unicorn who put in so much work to become the player he has become. Truly impressive.

Hilarious what expectations do. They were literally one of the least talented teams in recent history when both of these guys got their roles. Clearly a flawed team, but they are always a playoff threat (not to us) and have talent. both guys have been good at their jobs. Fans quickly forget what guys have built and have zero patience.

Good post but this is my problem with analytics in football. There are so many other factors in football that can just be measured in football like in baseball. Analytics say it is much better to pass way more than run. That doesn’t take into account than o lineman would much rather run block than pass block. Also, run blocking can wear out a d line that can significant effects later in the game. No one thought a receiving group of Flowers (best version is worse version of Diggs, good player), Bateman (never healthy) and Agalor (garbage) was anything special before the season. How would that group be in Vegas or Tennessee? This is a stat that illustrates how dangerous Lamar is and Henry. Allen is going to win the MVP but as much as nerds they, stats just don’t blindly fit in football. both Allen and Lamar have top 5 lines (the Ravens lost 2 or 3 starters this offseason as well) but both of those lines and WRs are helped tremendously by their qbs and their teams ability to run the ball.

This is like the person who complains about everyone being a snowflake. im very optimistic (out some good money on that). But as a Bills fan, can you blame anyone for not being nervous? All that negativity comes from love and not waiting to be hurt. Agree it’s annoying but don’t seek it out.

Can’t believe Mayo and Pierce didn’t produce better results with those awesome teams and stud qbs. But clearly, Callahan and Daboll proved themselves and deserve long leashes. hopefully, Dennis Allen and Pat Shurmur will get another chance. 3rd time is the charm. At least in football (which Terry cares less about 😂).

I was so confident and wanted this game now the Buffalo in me is getting a bit nervous. I don’t want this ride to end. plus, I still don’t think Nix is anything special. Please make him throw the ball down the field and double Sutton. They are a rhythm type of team so I think if we jump on them early, it should be an easy w. Please crush their souls early.

Allen is winning the MVP. But these stats are so dumb. Literally no one thought the Ravens had a special receiving group before the year. Zay Flowers is a good wr buts he’s a borderline 1 and doesn’t come close to the elite 1s. Bateman is superior over Cooper or Shakir? No one would ever say that. again, Allen is winning the MVP. But why I hate this award (though it is fun to debate) is how hard we work to act like their teammates aren’t good. Once we got Cooper, this became a good receiving group.

I swear to god if my bills SB before win, the OP owes me some money!

Fans celebrated Frazier getting fired after multiple top 3 defenses.

I remember it being like $20/$30 all you can drink drafts and eat chicken wings during the games. That’s amazing in Elma much less Manhattan. Can’t imagine what that place would be like for the Josh Allen playoff years.