Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

The one comment in the Post article is kind of funny, shows how little writers actually worry about facts. TP has owned the team for six months, never went through an off-season yet where he had to worry about who to sign or not. Seems to be a pretty stupid comment to make based on zero track record! The Bills’ new owner, Terry Pegula, does not harbor Johnson’s distaste for annual renegotiations, as far as we know.

I'll bet it's more like 75% get canned due to lack of talent, then the coach get re-cycled to another team that also needs a coach who just fired their prior coach ultimately for guess what lack of talent. The GM is likely the guy who assembled all the talent or lack there of, and is the guy who fires the coach. The GM figures it must have been ineptitude, as all his signings were great. I've said for years in all sports, the most important person in an organization is the GM, as without the players, it doesn't matter whom the coach is. Is that good thing or a bad thing??

Sammy also may have some interaction with him at Clemson games. More in a social setting so not at all surprised that's he'd be impressed from talking with in that type of setting.

I think the allure more comes from him being to two AFC championship games I am a bit concerned over this too. Though I believe the NFL has an edict that teams don't make coaching hire announcements on the days of playoff games as they want all the attention on the games being played and nothing else. Isn't Rex's wife name also Kim??

It's possible too that it's the old domino theory from the coaches side. The Bill's job isn't a terrible job. Great defense and very good ST and receivers. QB is a big issue, but anyone who signs a contract, it's likely for 4 years (obviously with an opt out for a change in ownership) but in that period of time alot can change at QB, you have time to find that guy. While I say it's a good job, it's probably not the best. I'd rate SF, Atlanta or Chicago higher so could be none of the coaching prospects will commit as they are all hoping to get one of those first. Once the first one signs then all the dominoes start to fall fast. I agree I don't think he's forcing EJ on anyone, but likely is stating he doesn't feel that Marrone gave EJ a very good chance so he wants a coach who will try to work with him and would have a plan to develop him, if it truly is a failure, then move on to plan B which may just be a temp thing for the remainder of 2015 then go to plan C which may be a year away yet. On the O line prospects, I do wonder could the problem be that Marrone kept changing his mind. He'd tell Whaley, this is what I want, so Whaley gets him that type of guys, but then a month later he wants something else. At some point, you give up listening to him, that may have been when things went down hill fast between them.

Needs to be a 3rd choice, no effect at all.

The problem is though beyond these 12 and the other three mentioned, the remaining teams all have below average, to weak, to poor QB's Sure everyone wants to be in the top 75%, but just not nearly enough talent to go around at QB. I think it's a problem the league needs to really try to figure out a way to develop better QB play. 25 years ago there were plenty of teams with good QB's that didn't make the playoffs, these days, hardly happens anymore. People want to rip Whaley and Brandon for not finding the franchise QB, if it were that easy all the other teams would already have done it too.

Thats why many here on the board argued in favor of keeping Marorne but i the end it wasn't the teams choice. If you hire a brand new never before HC I'd say the odds are probably 2:1 in favor of him being worse (measured as winning record goes) just simily because more new coaches fail than are huge successes from what I see. Though many of the failures are retreads too.

I was hoping they would have looked at Hue two years ago, don't think they interviewed him, but seem to recall his name did come up that time too. Then again as many coaches as we go through, you can probably say that about every coach every two t othree years!

As a front office type, president, or certainly on the training conditioning staff, could see it coming. As a coach I think unlikely only because how many women play football at a high enough level to understand the game. There are some rather high level women's basketball, hockey leagues around. Even softball to hardball isn't a huge stretch. So easy for women to compete and/or coach at high womens levels before making the jump to NBA or NHL. But women's football leagues are just starting to get a small amount of support, and they are more novelty leagues than being taken serious. So until women play and coach at high levels against other women, can't see them coming to the NFL.

You don't need lie detector tests, what you need are full time officials. I've often heard the argument the current ones are often lawyers, bank presidents, all high income earners beyond being bribed. In today's world, whatever they make isn't above bribery, so I'd throw that argument out. Thought I read that the officials around $15k per game times 16 weeks that's still over $200k per year. While not an obscene amount of money if you're making $200k as a full time ref or say $1/2 mil as lawyer and another $200k from the NFL, it probably would have little bearing either way whether you'd take a bribe or not. I've heard the argument if they went full time, too many good experienced officials would quit. I'd phase it in, each year one to two positions on the crew move to full time. In the mean time you keep the remaining PT but experienced guys around. I'm sure you could easily find 20 to 50 people every year willing to go full time either from the current ranks,, maybe college, or other places. Once you have transitioned over to all full time those that didn't want to make the switch. I'd offer some of the most experienced ones positions as raters, go to games and evaluate the crew. There's enough work they could do all week to be useful, film study, working out, time spend working with teams in practice to reduce penalties, evaluation etc.

Yeah but all the stuff making it hard to move the team only came out after RW had died. So at the time this was signed, no one knew, well probably Littmann knew. Money wasn't going to come out of RW's pocket, so why would he care.

Isn't Gronk married to a porn star??

I think they should interview the coach from Syracuse

If nothing else, the Jets can't afford to hire someone with all the baggage as the fans will be all over this. They need someone who fans will be excited about.

I think you're overlooking on big fact, The one other huge constant since Brandon sat in the corner office while watching the club lose more than it won was Littmann dealing out a budget every year to work within. Whether it was to Brandon, before him Nix, Levy, Donahoe, Butler, and all the way back to Pollian, there was a set amount of money work with and that is truely the common denominator. People have ripped Overdolf for being tight on contracts. Is it his fault if Litmann doesn't give him the money he needs to work with. Even the past two years, when Brandon was the top guy making all the decisions on Ralph's behalf, I wonder if Russ was still told, do whatever you want, it's your call, but this is the amount of money you have to work with. Blame Russ all you want but this has been mentioned many times in many forums, many argue was the reason behind Polian leaving in the first place, whatever it was if it involved money Littmann gave the final approval, and ultimately what doesn't involve money. Yeah maybe there were given a budget, but from everything that's been stated the amount in the budget came from Littmann with RW's blessing. So if Russ does leave this year and all the problems go away, everyone can say see I was right it was Russ, but just remember Littmann walked out the door six months prior. Russ may have been a good soldier, knew that's part of the job description working here for RW, so accepted it and never publicly complained about it and took all the lumps for it while Littmann stayed hidden in the corner.

If you want someone to run the business, then why not Brandon. You don't need a football background to do that. He basically would be representing the owner. How many owners particularly new ones no that much about football, they are business men. Who know what if anything was really offered. The more I hear from Pollian, I question if he was offered anything? Is he just trying to say he turned it down when nothing was even offered. Why would he go on record as giving advise tothe Pegula's based on something he was told by Marrone, the same guy who allegedly quit when he heard a czar such as Pollian was being brought in?

Actually that's debatable Irregardless is a word commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since the early twentieth century, though the word appeared in print as early as 1795.[1] Most dictionaries list it as "nonstandard" or "incorrect" usage, and recommend that "regardless" should be used instead

With regards to the Brandon comments about the contract. These clauses aren't that uncommon, he was working for RW at the time, the goal was to get Marrone signed, since this would never cost RW a dime, why not. And Brandon at the time was representing RW's best interests, so have no problem with the opt out clause. I assume when you say Rex Ryan's QB sucked, you're referring to Sanchez?? The Jets still had a much better overall offense than Buffalo. Rex also hads a history of having trouble developing QB's so don't think he's a good choice here.

I doubt on the outside you could ever get enough evidence to obtain search warrents to veryify phone records, email, etc, but likely all NFL teams give up all those rights to the NFL office to seize and and all records as they desire. Probably anything the agent may have is off limits, but anything the Jet's have the league could certainly get access too.

Is this the way the improved board is supposed to look? No differentiation between the original post and the reply. Or Tipster, we you just drinking too much when replying. Either way should there be a way to prevent this? Maybe not the right place for this but.....

If it can be proved, that's the hard part. Just like Johnny Manzeil didn't get paid for autographs Do agree penalties are usually harsh, could see them losing 1st round pick , but often very hard to prove. The only thing that may make it easier to prove is likely the league has the rights to examine all emails, phone logs etc of all teams where as a private person, had to get access to those records

I'd give it better than a 50/50 shot he does NOT gets a job. but the wild card out there, there's always the Raiders. Could see him going there to save face. Could do well as they do have alot of young talent. He'd become a God if that were to happen as did something no one else could do. Whomever the new coach is out there could be stepping in at the right time. The only thing you have to worry about is the goast of Al Davis somehow still making bad decisions.

LOL So is it our turn is that it?? Great idea, probably best you take this post down as don't want to let the other 20 teams in the league whom also don't have good QB's in on a great idea like this. Want to fix this problem, the NFL needs to figure out a way to slow the game down for the other 21 players on the field for the QB to catch up. Players have just got too fast, too big, too much training videoing, scouting to the point it's impossible for the QB to keep up. Maybe need to reduce scouting or 5 Mississippi's is the answer. I do honestly think the long term solution is Stepford QB's But to your original question, if you sign a coach to a 4 or 5 year contract, that's plenty of time to turn things around, so yes, doubt it would have much influence as it's supply and demand and the supply far exceeds the demand.

First off the reason the Dick Jaurons of the world are hired by the Bills is because RW for all his charity giving, never seemed to want to pay much $$ for coaches or at least that was preception. He is now out of the picture as is his money man Littman. Even Tom Donahoe could only spend the money on a coach that those two would allow. All these year the front office folks could only go along with what those two said. Yeah Buddy Nix, and Marv, and Brandon were GM's, but thee were GM's that were given allowances, and from everything stated were not allowed to exceed. As to hiring the Marrones, Mularkeys, and Williams of the world, as was pointed out Carroll, both Harbaough's, Garrett, to name a few were all unknowns until given their first HC position. So the three new guys the Bill's hired had the same chance of success or failure as anyone. There are two groups of established winning coaches out there, those currently working for a team which kind of hard to get one of them unless you want to give up a ton of draft picks or something. Once every ten years or so there may be a good established coach who doesn't want to work anymore for his current team and they mutually agree to part ways, but those are rare. (John Gruden, Jim Harbaugh) So that leaves one other group, established coaches who have "retired" either by their own choice or the teams choice. The trouble with many of those is while they had one or even two good runs, they are usually living off past achievements, and no promise that they can do it again. Their prior success as a HC makes them feel they can now ask for additional power, coach/GM etc and their prowess as a GM never got them where they got to in the first place. (See Bill Parsells.) So unless you get a guy who just got out of football and still has the passion, the chances of these guys doing well is likely about as good of odds as finding the next Bill Cowler with a brand new HC choice. And usually if you get the guy who was just fired, then he's maybe no better than a Marrone, Williams, etc. as he was fired because he didn't win.