Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I wait all day for Sunday night alright, just for that!!

Was the presser at One Bills drive or in his driveway?? I've certainly seen the "driveway" location more in that situation.

So when is this alleged presser going to occur?? Was a time stated??

Estate taxes only come into play when you die. He would be avoiding a paying a potential increase in capital gains tax. However the sale would need to be completed by Monday, not just announcing a sale. Thought I read the post also mentioned he would still own the team, just giving up control. If that's true, then no change at all unless he's selling like a 5% share to Kelly/Thomas, then would pay CGT on that portion.

I've thopught about thta for awhile. Maybe RW said screw you Uncle Sam, I'm not paying all these taxes, gifts the team to a charity with some type of complex agreement that someone else runs the team, i.e. Kelly-Thomas. Would the NFL like this no, would they agree to it, probably not, but their only option would be to over turn it in court, which isn't all that likely the NFL would win based on prior court decisions. Plus wouldn't look too good if the NFL is suing to prevent a team from being giving to a charity. Publicity wouldn't look too good on that one. Really isn't giving Kelly a gift, the gift would be to some charity. True his family is losing the money, but from what you hear, they have another $800 mil or so on top of the value of the Bill's. RW doesn't appear to live a very lavish lifestyle so I'd imagine his heirs could get by on just $800 mil or so.

The $$$ come from the alleged group he's put together.

What is his normal time slot?? It's rare that you see a coach address the media once he's fired, at least not in a press conference set by the team. Unless the Bill's plan to announce at noon he's gone, and the 3:00 is canceled.

LOL I'm kind of neutral on Nix, would rather see him gone at this point, but won't go nuts if stays either. However if you're trying to make the argument about what a good job Nix has done, its becomes hard to believe when you list Zerbie Sanders as a positive. He hasn't played even one down!

Are you connecting via computer or TV? Have seen that on computer before, but not TV. I'd say it's a hiccup in their system. Could try and call them.

First off trades hardly occur in the NFL, the only time they do is when you have a surplus of good players at that position and then it's usually for draft picks, in other words you don't need to make the trade. Second I'm not all that convinced that Smith is any better than Fitz, he just was used much better than CG did. You also then still have a high priced QB that you're hoping to only use for a year or so, then move on. Unless after the combines some QB rockets up the charts, I'd rather see the Bills use their 1st rounder on a LB or something and keep Fitz to start the season So far all the 1st rounders sound rather suspect. I do feel with a better coach who would stick to the run, run Spiller 20 times EVERY game, and get another top WR, Fitz could be OK to start with. Also assumes he takes a big pay cut.

So who's the CEO of the Bills today? I'd say it's RW. What does he know about those same things picking talent, selecting coaches, or getting contracts done? In a normal business environment, you're correct, but the NFL is far from that. President, CEO are both more figurehead positions in football. I wasn't like some others on this board suggesting Kelly be the GM, that I agree, he's totally unqualified for. Mary has no reason to sweat estate taxes, If the RW leaves the team to her she'd would then have to die before the estate taxes are due. So if I'm her I'm worrying about capital gains as that comes out of my pocket as soon as I sell the team, estate taxes won't effect her. Plus as has been pointed out in other posts, if she sells the team, she pays capital gains tax, then pockets the proceeds, unless she gives all the money away or squanders it, when she dies, she will still need to pay estate taxes on that money, essentially she's taxed twice.

I'd rather see them take a LB #1 than a reach on some QB. None of the guys Barkley or Smith looks like a can't miss type of guy. They both scare me very much.

Your post would be much more poetic if that song had been done by Meatloaf!

I think if Nix does go it may be more that he retires than is fired, and IMO Whaley is the next GM. So assuming that happens with a GM in waiting already in-house don't need to rush things. GM contracts typically expire May 1st, (after the draft)so you could leave Nix as the GM til May, then he retires or maybe he goes back to a part time scout job. As was pointed out with all the GM positions open there's a good chance Whaley could get one of the openings. So if he doesn't leave or even get an interview, that would more make me believe come May 1st, DW will be the next GM. I know there's alot of people who don't want Nix running another draft, though even there DW may have more input than an assistant GM would normally have. But this could be the route things go in. Listening to The Bills Round Table, on the pre-game show, they all were in agreement that there is a fair amount of talent on the team that would make it attractive for a new coach. They actually compared them to San Fran when Harborgh took over, they did add not as good, particularly with respect to the LB position. But they did see a somewhat similar situation. So that tends to support the position that Nix didn't do a terrible job. That being said, overall they were split on whether Nix should stay or go. Most who wanted him gone pointed to the QB situation and how he handled it or didn't handle it for reason to get rid of him.

Great minds think alike!! I tend to share the same thoughts. RW has always stated he wants to own the Bill's until he dies. I have to believe he didn't maybe think his condition would drop off to the point where he appears to be totally uninvolved with the team. Other that coming to the holiday party, has he been to one game this year? I don't believe so. So makes me wonder is he still getting enjoyment from owning the team and would he care what really happens as much if he gave up the position as being in charge?? He also has a 25 year history with Kelly and while Kelly may not do everything RW wants, I do believe RW would know that anything JK does IS in the best interest of the Bill's. If your idea of Kelly having first right to purchase the team is correct which I tend to agree with, making him CEO would make sense. Based on the TD fiasco, after that RW stated he'd never do that again, but with the way things are going for him health wise, he may have changed his mind. I'd also ask who is the CEO today cause it's not RW anymore. There's a void that needs filling now, it can't wait. Maybe JK is made president, I'd be OK with that too. The Bills do need someone in that role Kelly would also show much stability in that position and I think would help bringing in a better coach. He can show the Bill's do have a long term commitment to western NY. Another theory I have is upon RW's death his wife Mary gets the team. Many times it's been stated that she doesn't want the team and will sell it. Writers keep repeating that, but I don't believe it's actually been stated recently by RW instead just being repeated what was stated ten years ago. Maybe Mary may woke up one day and decided that the one thing she's less interested in than owning the Bill's would be to pay $400 mil or so in capital gains tax. so she keeps the team in her name, but is a silent owner and again JK runs the team. Maybe they give JK a 5% stake in the team to take this position and again as you suggest has the first right to purchase whether it be from from RW or from his wife..

I have to wonder a bit about this guy, as many coaching changes every year and he never got a chance anywhere as a HC?? People here used to always joke about Chuck Lester having something on RW that's why he was still employed by the Bill's for all those years, have to wonder if Lester was somehow able to pinn it on Tresmann as that could explain how he never got a HC gig. But in all seriousness does make me wonder about the guy? Something just doesn't smell quite right.

Personally I do think the Bills have a good chance at losing, but really can't see either Det or Philly winning, well maybe Philly as the Gints have looked awful. Trouble is when the Gints play, they will still need to win to potentially make the playoffs.

Yes, but from what I hear they want to give it another try and Bill was quite successful in Indy for quite awhile. I have no proof of this at all but from what I've read of Chris I firmly believe the only reason both he and Bill were fired was Irsay wanted to fire Chris, but that's one of the downfalls of father/son together, you can't fire the son and keep the dad. So he had no choice but to can both. Saying Chris was extremely arrogant (which I've heard too) is kind of funny as Bill was pretty bad to start with. It must have taken him alot of effort on that one to out do the ole man. I do think Bill in his old age has learned from his mistakes. If Chris doesn't get a job someplace this off-season and hopefully not in Buffalo then everything that was rumored about him must be true. He's young, comes from good genes, he'd should be a great hire! or not??

Yes but the biggest problem was week after week, Gailey put him in the position to be a gunslinger. Get a coach that doesn't make him do that or wouldn't allow him to do that he could be salvageable. Fitz, looks OK for the first 3 quarters of most games when defenses aren't certain what's coming. He can make some good throws, but in the final five minutes when they are behind and the other team no it's he's bad, one of the worst., But maybe with better coaching you can reduce those down to one or two for the year. Will he win you the Super Bowl, no, but could get you through an improvement year till the rookie is ready. If the Bills go out and sign an Alex Smith or Matt Flynn, then I'd agree, cut him as those guys a ready to start week #1, but from the looks of this years rookies I doubt anyone is out there who is ready.

I thought the same thing last year about SJ, but they signed him, infact it was either right before or right after the free agency period started. So if they could sign SJ last Feb, (and I never thought they would have last year) I think they can easily do it again for both. The only thing that will prevent it is if one or both don't want to be here. They say they bot hdo, so assuming that's true, I think they can easily be signed.

True, but the Bills may have to overpay some as Fitz does have some leverage in that he can refuse to big of a cut forcing the Bill's to cut him and take the cap hit. While I firmly believe it's better to take the cap hit than pay him $10 mil in real $$, saving the cap hit is worth something so I'd go from $4 mil to $5 mil or some amount to avoid that.

No not better at all!! What he's saying is you need to make a smart decision for what is best for the Bill's and not make a decision because you're pissed off at the guy. And Fitz may still give the Bill's the best chance of winning next season. There are no rookies like an Andrew Luck. With a good coach who is committed to handing the ball to Spiller 20 times a game and passing it to him another five times. In addition you sign a couple of top level FA LB and a legit #1 or #2 WR, plus resign Byrd , Mekelvin, and AL, all of a sudden Fitz may not look too bad if you're not counting on him to win you games. Granted he still is not likely to be able to lead the team to a come from behind win, but with a good defense, the number of times that's needed may be way less. Bottom line is Fitz may still be the best option in 2013 depending who else they sign. And a GM who is smart and not emotional would figure that out.

There's a big difference between a ten mil cap hit and paying a guy in real money. We're way under that cap anyway so likely taking the $10 mil cap hit wouldn't have much effect on what you would or wouldn't do in FA. That said I'm all for keeping him at a restructured reduced salary as I do agree he'd make a good back up & mentor for a rookie. I'd pay him $5 mil for that.

You can always renegotiate the contract, so yes that is always an option. That article also stated he's the 19th highest QB which is probably about where he'd be ranked, likely a bit lower, but as salary's go up, ten mil next year would likely push him down the ranking without ever taking a snap. Then Fitz has to decide if he could get more elsewhere or take the pay cut. Fitz has some leverage as he can point out the cap hit to the Bills if they end up cutting him. But a cap hit is "play money" as opposed to paying him with real money. Personally I'd be fine with keeping him with a new coaching staff who's not wed to him particularly if you bring in a rookie as I do think he'd be a good type for a rookie to learn from. I'd even be fine starting him the first 3 or 4 games, then as soon as he starts losing you games, you go to the rookie. If they brought in someone like an Alex Smith, then less need for Fitz so then more likely he's not back. I'd be OK paying him maybe half that to teach a rookie and eventually he's the backup by mid year. I'd probably rank him as one of the top backups too. I'd also make the contract for not more than two years as likely by the following year the rookie is the starter and $5 mil is too much for a backup.

We already have a solid #2 in Stevie Johnson. We need a #1 I like SJ, he's way over achieving, but he's really a #2