Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Kind of like the NBA sign and trade. Well you could make a big part of the deal a signing bonus which is paid by the signing team so the team he's traded to wouldn't see any part of that hit. Is it legal, can't see why not, unless some little loophole. Don't recall anything like that ever being done, but why not. Hey seems the NFL has adopted the NBA style of trades announced but not completed for another week, so why not also adopt the sign and trade.

I really don't understand the RT need? Seems most of the season everyone was happy with the play of Henderson, particularly for a rookie and particularly when the overall play of the line was weak. Put Richie and another FA signing guard next to him, and a year of experience I'm not ready to give up on him anytime soon as he could look much better. I know he graded out poor, which makes me questions some of those grades as he seemed to have passed the eye test fine all season. Yuo can't keep chasing draft picks, by that I mean replace last years pick with another one until you're certain the first one isn't going to work out, and after one season no way to tell for certain, if anything he looked pretty strong. Can't afford five all-pros on the line just as the same on the D-line, if Hughes leaves for big $$. If Henderson is our biggest problem on the O-line we're in real good shape!

Guess he learned something from Marrone!

He has three years left on the deal, so UFA is a long way soff, we're talking in three years. He'd be crazy to refuse an extention to play out a three year deal to become a UFA as could easily get hurt or would by then be over the hill and get less. After this year his cap hit goes down, under $8 mil So explain how a three year contract with declining cap amounts exactly gives the player leverage? Other htna the cap number being high, just don't see it.

That's what happens whe na legend gets traded.

Ummm... yeah that was the idea, all my comments were meant to be negatives. I'm agreeing with you, he was nothing special. It was on about page two or three of the this thread, someone posted that! DPOY candidate this season The legend is amazing. See my post above as to the real reason behind this trade!!

To build of the legend of Kiko Chip Kelly is making this trade as he plans to make Kiko his starting QB

That he tore his ACL twice and came back to play again at some level, oh yeah, he became DPOY, he'll become a superstar, he's up and coming (even though his played actually tailed off in the ONE season he played). Well at least that's what the first 37 pages were saying about him

Philly just traded one of their better players. Don't see anyway they can move up enough to get him, unless they pull a Ditka. Doubt getting Kiko helps their trade abilities at all.

Really based on what?? Some of the quotes I've read are amazing. Truly the legend of Kiko grows tonight 10X. I've read here tonight, he's a superstar, up and coming, DPOY candidate this coming season. What we know Kiko is is a guy who came in as a rookie and had a great Sept and October, remainder of year played very well for a rookie, but in reality his play deteriorated as the year went on. Not blaming him for it, but if you're calling him a superstar and up and coming, then lets be honest on what actually occurred, his play at best leveled off, most likely dropped off to some level. 2nd season out all year with an ACL, in fact second ACL on the same knee to be exact. Meanwhile we're picking up an elite RB, granted maybe in two years he'll be done, who knows, but for all we know Kiko may already be done, but somehow this is a terrible deal for the Bill's Nothing against the guy, but talk about people out of control. The legend only grows in his wake. This is just amazing to hear peoples reaction!

FJ is the heart and sole of the fans. Rex has no connection to him, his play tailed off quite a bit this past year., maybe he was just very nicked up, who knows. The one thing FJ does bring is good blocking, but the only ones who feel he's deserved to stick with the team are the fans. He may beat out Brown, if he does, then he'll be back if not then likely he's done. But this blind loyalty to him is just plain stupid. I like the guy, but he may be done!

They already are paying top $$ for a DE, and next season top $$ for a DT too. You only want to put so much money into any one position, seems I recall a couple games there when they were subbing in Wynn, Charles, & Byrant, those guys were getting sacks too, so I think having the Williams brothers and Dareus up front is more the reason Hughes is getting ten sacks than he's a top level DE. If he does leave, the Bills can probably get him back in two, maybe three seasons tops as who ever signs him will be way over paying and he'll be one of these guys you'll be reading about on Feb 28th or so, 2017 on the big name vets who were just cut list.

Regardless whether he walks or not, good teams don't franchise a player for about twice what he's probably worth. Five teams franchised a player, seems more like good teams know it's not a smart move to do that. Of the team's that did franchise a player, clearly that player was the best player on their respective team at that particular position. Hughes at best is the third best lineman on the Bill's. If Hughes does leave, unless he goes to another team with a real strong defense, I'll be shocked if he'll come close to the success he had in Buffalo.

What about Ryan Leaf? Is he out on parole now?? We don't play in Canada anymore, so no worries on the felons crossing the board thing, then again it appears the NFL is exempt from that policy, else there'd be no games out of the states.

I'm sure NO would agree to the trade as long as we give them Darius, Watkins, and Gilmore. That's probably about what it would take. So who's making Super Bowl reservations now?

He also could be doing like a number of players do, assuming he does want to stay in Buffalo, don't sign anything now, see what kind of offers he can get, then take his best offer back to Buffalo for them to match, or at least come close, then he signs here. Likely some team will offer him stupid money though and he will sign elsewhere, particularly some team that is weak at pass rush. I also think he's the by product of those around him, there's a good chance he signs elsewhere in two years whomever signs him finds that out and cuts him, so in the long run he could make more money by signing for less in Buffalo as has a better chance of playing out the contract.

Reporting from Wilmington, dry, but nasty out, had about 1/4 inch of snow on Tuesdays, all the schools were closed. I love driving to work on those days, no traffic

I'm still kind of skeptical of this entire Polian thing?? There was never any type of response out of Buffalo on it which maybe isn't surprising as I think TP is to classy for that. I think all Polian was asked to do was be an extra set of eyes and ears for Whaley, not to replace or demote him. All of a sudden he's talking about how he's bringing in AJ Smith, etc. Maybe at that point TP told him that wasn't the job I'm asking you to so, so then Polian backed out and came up with this "too heavy a lift" excuse. Whole thing just doesn't add up IMO

Wow $40000 taxes. That's about what I paid for my first house!

While I agree everything is great between the two, I'm sure one month into the Doug Marrone era, those two got along also. Great idea on the trade, just find me a GM dumb enough to make that trade. This isn't the NBA, few trades take place and only superstars garner 1st rounders in return. There was an article coming out of Indy suggesting Indy trade their #1, #29 overall to Bufflo for Marcel D. While I'd want much more for Marcel, but if the thought is that's all you're going to get for him, you'd be lucky t oget a 3rd rounder for McKelvin.

Isn't there a period of time when you're not allowed to sign contracts? Are we within that period?

Guess Whaley must have read Vic Carucci's column today and figured he better cut him ASAP to may Vic look smart.

Not without a better running game and O-line

The one thing I read was they offered him a plea of recless driving which is a misdemeaner so could imagine he'd like to go lower than that as I beleive that does leave you with a record. He's probably waiting for them to reduce it to a load muffler violation!!

Where I live I get to listen to Dan Lebatard on the way home, he's just as bad. He has a weekly segmant of love advise from Marcelous Wiley, and about every two weeks, he has the head zoo keeper from the Miami zoo on talking about mating habits of some turtle. I agree, I do find that funny how many threads there are about a guy that everyone hates to listen too. The station managers at WGR could care less if he's liked, just that he's talked about. We do a great job here of helping him keep his job. Actually I think they all follow the same trend. They want to show that sports means very little in the overall scheme of things. Yeah it's great to be a fan on Sunday for three hours, but the rest of the week there are more important things in life than sports. That's what you should be focused on according to these guys so they talk as little about sports as they can to prove that point. There are many out there who'd agree with them, however very few of them if any are the types of people who then post on team message boards like we all do. Not that I disagree with most here, but we're not the most objective audiance to crtic him as we all want sports 24/7