Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Kind of interesting that guys like Dauton, Alex Smith and Cutler are just ahead of Orton. Not much difference there. As far as franchise QBs' a discussion form the other day, I'd cut the list off after #9, though would consider moving Flacco or Eli up into that group too.

Then what about every other player out there. Where does it end? Nice of Marv to suggest the Bills should hire Talley. Why doesn't Marv find a job for him? On the other hand wouldn't shock me to see Mary Wilson make a large contribution to the Talley fund.

So what player on either San Fran or Oakland hails from western PA as I see this little sliver of area is getting that game while most of the remainder of the country gets Seattle @ Philly??

Yup another sign of a terrible front office! Actually it's probably all Hacketts fault! PS can some one tell me where to find the sarcasm button??

So you have 17 I said 12, not too far off. I'd also argue that without an exceptional team around him, I doubt that Wilson, Kaepernick, Newton, Dalton, and maybe even Flacco could win a SB on their own talents. I'd then lump your elite and borderline elite, plus Big Ben, Romo, Stafford, Rivers, Ryan, and Eli minus the last two seasons into my "franchise" group. Even though some like a Romo or Rivers, haven't won a SB, I do feel they are capable of it with even decent talent Though Romo will find a way to self destruct every year.

Out of 32 teams in the NFL, there are around 20 who lack franchise QB's. So not finding one in a generation is about average for the league. That's the basic problem in the league, there are 32 teams and 10 great QB's. So teams get "desperate" and hope someone like an EJ or JP or Trent become that guy. If not move on.

The same thing was stated another time, around 1986. Kelly's 1st or 2nd year, defense was good, but if only the offense would play decent.

The first catch I sdaid, "Who is this guy" so Googled him. Didn't even find out very much there other than the date the Bills picked him up!

Over the years there's been many players who've been inactive pretty much their entire rookie year, 2nd year, they got stronger and things slowed down and they became decent players. Will he be goign to the pro-bowl, probably not, but that's OK too as long as he can become a decent starter. Same with Richardson, give them another year.

Hey don't let any actual facts get in the way of a chance to rip Bills management. You got an agenda, go for I'm aure you'll get 20 others with the same agenda to totally agree with you.

We play Green Bay before Oakland. I think Hughes may sign elsewhere regardless as I just don't know if we can afford him. You can only put so much money into one area of the team and you'll be needing to pay Dareus big $$ here too. The only way I see us signing him if if we don't bother trying to re-sign Spikes. Personally I think we need the run stopper more, last year had the same line minus Spikes, look how they played. Though I will say this Schwartz is known for being good at stoping the run, so he may be able to mold one of the other LB's into a great run stopper. If he can do that, then I'd be OK with letting Spikes go and using the money on Hughes, but just don't think we can afford both and fill other needs too. Regardless of the amount of money Terry is willing to spend, still have ot deal with a salary cap too.

Did you ever think that maybe his "career" of poor coaching was due to bad players. From what I recall reading he did have a couple good years, they weren't all bad . Maybe the moral of the whole thing is doesn't matter who the coach is, you need the players first.

So I was listening to the Dan Lebetard show this afternoon, he had on John Clayton who was taking calls. Someone asked where Clayton thought Ray Rice would play next year and he stated Buffalo as Terry P had a connection with him though the sports agency he was involved with.. Obviously pure speculation, but that was his response.

These days it's rare for an NFL coach to be fired mid season. 30 years ago, happened all the time, frequently by the Bills. Jauron elected to leave, he wasn't fired.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I was wondering who that was, saw the Bills logo on him

For all the knocks on Hackett, we were saying the same thing last year about the ST coach and look at the play of ST this year. Makes a difference when you actually have players. Not that the offense doesn't have players, but still have a shaky line and QB play is rather unsettled. Not trying to say Hackert is the answer, but he's also not as big an issue as many make him out to be either.

OK where's the game, it's now 7:01 according to my PC

OK he we go at least there's a logo on the screen now!

Wish all Monday night games started at 7:00, I need my beauty rest!

Well they just stated during the Raider KC game, Monday night Bills game to be broadcast by CBS in Buffalo and NY markets only.

Well they just stated during the Raider KC game, Monday night Bills game to be broadcast by CBS in Buffalo and NY markets only.

I think they made a show about that!

What movie is this thing actually from anyway?

I see Pitt is playing at home on Saturday, likely that's the reason they aren't moving it there as would have seemed to me to been the best choice as closest if anyone did want to make the trip.

If not shown nationally, I'll bet ESPN3 will pick it up.