Bob in STL

I'm not so sure about that. It's true that talent has a lot to do with it and better teams have guys on their roster just for special teams. But lets not confuse better skill (talent) with basic execution and preparation. The penalties can be corrected and the ST coaching has to take accountability for the continuous stream of penalties such as offsides on kickoffs, holding gunners on punts, blocking players in the back that have no chance of making the tackle on returns. These things are happening multiple times in a games and in just about every game. Coaching is a big part of it. How about the lack of recognition on the punt rush that caved in the entire left side of the line? Those are the same blockers on every punt. Looks like we missed something or they saw something in the game film to take advantage of. That is preparation and that is coaching, Maybe better talent that would prevent the muffs and fumbles and the need to hold. We just do not have any kick return threats like we used to so that part of it does point to talent. Despite all this our FG kicker is nails and the rookie punter has blasted some deep punts with pretty good hang time. The two kickers are doing fine. Crossman has to do better. They all do.

Look at that list. They are not really rare, especially when we trade up and waste picks on Watkins only to let him go and see his classmates turn into game changers.

3. Refs - The refs set the tone early and often with holding calls on White. They called both holding and PI on that game changing call in the end zone and since the ball was out of bounds and likely not catchable the correct call should have been holding. That would be 5 yards from scrimmage and first down. Instead they put the ball on the 1 and sealed our fate. They missed a blatant PI on the Texans in the first half. They called Bodine for a ticky tack holding on a QB run but let Hughes be held on numerous occasions. The holding and PI calls aside, ALL the other calls on the Bills were correct and point to a much bigger problem. Multiple illegal formation calls in a game for several weeks now. Multiple holding on the punt team and offsides on the kickoff team. These thing are happening every week. That is were I blame the coaches. Which takes me to item #10. 10. Coaching - The defense coaches and game plan was brilliant. The rest of the staff, including McD did a lousy job. Look at the penalties, the atrocious special team, the predictable uninspired offense. Special Teams and Offense set up or gave up all the points in this game. Blocked punt, fumbled punt return, muffed kicks, penalties on coverage, horrible field position, erratic play, not at all solid. The punter and kicker are saving the other 10 guys on the special teams. There are breakdowns every week. As for the offense game plan and preparation ... I don't need to explain a thing. How many games are we going to win averaging 12-13 points a week?

This is a rebuild. We won 9 games in year 1 of a rebuild. It took a 41 yard PI call in the end zone and a Peterman pick 6 to keep us from going 3-3 and 2 road wins. So we are an ugly 2-4, looking at 5 or 6 wins this year. The offensive talent is very poor, we have a rookie QB who is not ready for prime time. Hang tough.

Interesting take Mrs. Peterman

Agree. He is not impressing anyone. His track record as an OC is poor too.

They don't want to say things without seeing he film. They want to be correct and fair. They do not want to rush to judgement on players, refs, etc. The on field view is not a great perspective to begin with. For every Rex type of blowhard there are a dozen coach like McDermott.

I thought the Refs were ticky-tacky on the defensive holding calls on White. Let them play the game. The missed PI on on Zay jones that was flagrant. They called holding and PI on Gaines but the PI could have been let go because the ball was thrown out of bounds. A holding call would have been easier to swallow. Putting the ball on the 1 yard line was giving the Texans the game. Or defense held, Peterman finished us off. All that said we deserved most of the calls and I say this because it keeps happening. All of the offensive alignment and procedure calls were real. This is the second week that we have had too many of these calls. Daboll needs to do much better or get players that know what to do. Same for special teams. The holding and calls on the punt team have been a problem this year and we have seen them called on multiple weeks. Again, we must be doing things wrong and getting beat. These calls are trends, not isolated incidents.

I think he is getting better each week even if the stats don't show it. He needs to see the field better, stay in the pocket and get rid of the ball quicker. Throwing on the run leads to inaccuracy, which is a problem for him. leadership and willingness to win are without question.

The topic is Benjamin, enough Cam Newton talk. So the coach is going to check into the report that KB refused to run routes with Allen before the game. If this is true then KB should be benched and traded. Whatever we have to do to not pay him would be great. We can lose with Ray Ray in there, no problem.

Easy to blame Peterman and he needs to go, he is bad, nothing has changed with that. We all know he should be cut but here we are with an injured Josh Allen and a 3rd strung QB with ONE WEEK of experience with the team. We are not in any way ready to play next week with Allen out. This goes back to bad decisions Front Office made before training camp started, during camp, during preseason, and on. Our QB situation is a disaster. The Offensive Coordinator is very underwhelming. The lack of sharpness by the offense, the multiple illegal formation calls, the bad route running, drops, missed blocks, the overall poor execution, the inability to stick to the running game … these things cost us the game as much as Peterman. Don't get me started on the punt team. OK, how about a fumbled punt, a blocked punt, holding on the coverage team, holding on the return team … The fact that we led 13-10 with three minutes left was a miracle and a lot of LUCK.

Worst in NFL History --- Yes, just based on his stats the answer is yes. Compared to Gary Marangi, Kay Stevenson, Joe Dufek, Tim Tuel, and EJ Manual - he is the worst in Bills history. The Pick 6 today was a little league mistake. No arm strength, the CB was sitting and waiting for it.

Pegulla can only blame himself. Who hires a coach first, let’s him run the draft with a lame duck GM, then hires a GM after the draft??? maybe a really good experienced GM would have picked Mahomes with our 16 pick? Then the 15 GMs ahead of us could be fired too.

I think he will be back on PS if he is eligible. Need to get Anderson up to speed as the #2 which might take a few weeks. Then we can cut Peterman and bring a more useful player on the 53.

What are you talking about? We we already committed to developing Allen by playing him. Letting McCarron go and not seeing the inadequacy of Petersen put us in the predicament. Which QB in the roster is going to get us 8 wins? Its Allen or bust.

The Bills have a long history with many excellent receivers. The problem lately is it is hard for a WR to really excel when you do not have a good QB. Woods, Goodwin and Watkins are the same as they were with Buffalo, they are just in a better situation. Same with Hogan. As other have stated, Woods is the best football player in the bunch and we should have kept him but even if we did he was limited with no threat lining up across from him and Tyrod throwing. They are all in a better situation. Benjamin is the same last bum now as he was in Carolina. If he was special they would not have unloaded him. We need to draft a couple of WRs this year, the cast we have is very poor.

Uhhggg. Why not ask for a first?

Benjamin and Homes are horrible players.

I wonder were all the positives on Teller come from? Are you guys going to practice every week? Why cant this guy beat out Miller if he has such upside?

After the game Allen said his pass to KB was too low. Fact is KB had two hands on it. At at some point Allen will stop taking the blame for Benjamin’s poor play and Benjamin will be ignored. I don’t see KB getting re-signed and it looks like he is blowing his shot at a big payday somewhere else.

There simply is no correct answer. If he is not ready then he should not play, it should not matter what slot he was drafted. Allen is ready only by default, we have no one else. The kid is gamer, he is courageous, and his leadership skills are there. However, he misses a lot of plays due to lack of experience and he accuracy is not good when under constant duress. He gets little help from a subpar receiving corps. He just earned a well deserved come from behind win. Maybe it will build his confidence. The game day experience should help his decision making as time goes on but expect some more rough days ahead.

Lots of big contributors today. Ivory, Hauschka, Edmunds, J Phillips, - dam the whole defense, even the back ups, they all made plays so maybe Coach Frazier.

I was impressed. Two good Phillips's, a STAR, and KYLE. The inside of the DL is getting better. I thought the edge rush was good today too.

I have seen much worse offense from this team. WE WON!!! We came from behind. Our Rookie QB led the winning drive. Enjoy the win!

Ok it was not a work of art but they got it done. Only bad part of the game was the our passing game. There is not one thing to fix here: (1) Josh is still learning to read defenses and he misses things at times; (2) our WRs lack talent; and (3) our OL is not very good at times. Today they made a few big plays when needed, especially on the last drive. Overall there are many positives. 1 - Defense was stout and essentially enabled the win. The forced turnovers were key. 2 - Special Teams was good overall with exception of the bad hold that cost us 3 critical pints. 3 - We ran the ball when needed today 4 - Josh Allen made things happen when the game was on the line. Allen has 1 4Q come from behind win in 3 games. I think he might be tied, or maybe just 1 win behind Tyrod in this category. Nice job by the coaches, the team, and great job by the FANS. The stadium sounded very loud on my TV.