Bob in STL

I see I had a typo but I don't know what you are referring to.

I can't say the fans here are the worst since the Polian era or any era for that matter. Many of the fans here have never seen winning years. These same fans also grew up in the era of instant gratification with the internet and hand held devices changing the way we communicate and also changing the AMOUNT we communicate. I think these factors have a lot to do with the behavior. The idea of wanting to fire McDermott and Beane after one season is absurd but many here were calling for it change and upheaval is all they know. Given this I try to be patient with this line of thinking.

As I mentioned in another thread, the line calls improved with Groy out of the lineup, so that in itself is a big help. TSW Whipping Boy Ducasse looked to have another decent game. The right side is still weak and all the illegal procedure calls on the tackle lining up in the backfield have to stop (Mills). Overall the line seems to be serviceable when execute their assignments.

We did not trade down the Mohomes pick and get Tre and Allen. Pointless question.

Don’t give me THAT Bologna, I want Wardinski’s!

I want to laugh at this but gambling debt is serious stuff. I have seen gambling ruin families so I feel for this guy. To the OP, Pay the debt, consider it a life lesson , and watch sports without betting.

OP is overly excited but one game. Great game by Allen. Still a long way to go. An experienced back up that can help the team and help Allen is STILL, AND WILL ALWAYS BE, a better plan than Nate Peterman as the backup. I hope we we never see Nate again.

No doubt that McD is a coach most players trust and will work for. He seems fair and he treats people with respect. When your turn is up he will play you. “Next man up”, “You are 1/11th”, those sayings are real to McD. Players that don’t get along with McD are likely the suspect ones.

Foster - Well he gets open and he seems to know the plays so for a rookie Fister has 2/3rds of it. Sure he needs to catch the ball. I would not cut him so soon, he can improve and we have nothing else. Beane needs to make WR a priority.

I was there in the 80’s. It was not paradise then and it’s still is not. Great weather? Yes Beautiful women? Yes Great Beaches? Yes. skyrocketing property values only help you if you already have a house. It’s very hard to get anything decent for a young guy starting out on your own. Jobs are there but pay is low relative to the cost of living. The public schools are crap. California politics are crap. Taxes are high. Illegal immigrants are a problem and a topic of debate and division. Crime is not too bad for California, but high enough to be in the top percentile of the State. I did the California dream back in the day. After about five years I found out I actually like seasonal change and it’s healthy for me to have it. Once the kids came the stability of a traditional lifestyle with family and the values I can relate to outweighed the benefits of Southern California.

My goals are higher than reaching Bears level.

Winning

Five wives. Wow. Good stamina.

You don't understand the cap. Tuhrod, Dareus, Wood, and Glenn are all killing us this year. This is why people debate their trades, we have to pay them these amounts. This is why AJ McCarron and Corey Coleman signings look bad now. This is why some people think Beane is doing the right thing, taking a huge hit in 2018 to get out of jail in 2019. Dead Payroll Figures Pos. 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 A.J. McCarron QB $2,100,000 $2,000,000 0- 0- 0- Aaron Williams SS $2,425,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Adolphus Washington DT $255,632 $188,574 0- 0- 0- Austin Proehl WR $17,267 $51,803 0- $767,269 0- Cardale Jones QB $191,696 0- 0- 0- 0- Colton Schmidt P $300,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Cordy Glenn LT $9,600,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Corey Coleman WR $2,955,922 0- 0- 0- 0- Cory Carter P $1,000 $1,000 0- 0- 0- De'Ondre Wesley G $7,600 0- 0- 0- 0- Eric Wood C $10,391,668 0- 0- 0- 0- Gerhard de Beer T $7,600 0- 0- 0- 0- Jason Croom TE $7,334 $570,000 0- 0- 0- Jeremy Kerley WR $960,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Jon Ryan P $90,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Jonathan Williams RB $120,458 0- 0- 0- 0- Kaelin Clay WR $90,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Keith Towbridge TE $2,500 $2,500 0- 0- 0- Kelcie McCray SS $5,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Kevon Seymour CB $50,178 0- 0- 0- 0- Kolby Listenbee WR $66,466 0- 0- 0- 0- Marcell Dareus DT $13,564,705 0- 0- 0- 0- Quan Bray WR $500 0- 0- 0- 0- Reggie Ragland ILB $1,224,135 0- 0- 0- 0- Richie Incognito G $1,150,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Robert Thomas DT $7,600 0- 0- 0- 0- Ronald Darby CB $395,853 0- 0- 0- 0- Ryan Davis DE $50,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Ryan Lewis CB $28,235 0- 0- 0- 0- Ryan Lewis CB $7,600 0- 0- 0- 0- Tanner Vallejo OLB $38,449 $76,898 0- 0- 0- Terrence Fede DE $90,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Travaris Cadet RB $90,000 0- 0- 0- 0- Tyrod Taylor QB $7,640,000 0- 0

One good running back is not enough to last you a season. We had only McCoy last year, the rest of our RB's were marginal players. None of them could be counted on to run, catch and block. Teams pretty much know what we are doing based on who is in the game after McCoy leaves. We are in the same boat this year. I agree with you not to tie up big money on 30 year old running backs but I do not think a good RB is a dime a dozen either. Nor do I think that there are a lot of great backup RB's out there or else we might actually have one.

Running backs are NOT really a dime a dozen. That is one of the most overplayed thoughts in football today. Look at our depth at RB last year and now this year. Maybe a little better this year but not by much. That said. McCoy's contract is not a good one for us but that has more to do with his age.

yes but the legend of Schwartz must live on you know.

Wow. Never bet money you can’t afford to lose. Lets see, Bills are pissed about Davis quitting and national media lack of respect. Defense might be finding its groove after strong second half. Daboll might be getting the offense in better sync and Allen’s play likely to improve. Shady ready to break out. Minnesota likely to be looking past us too. Yup, you will cover.

Harvey was worse than that. from Wikipedia: Player in careerEdit Johnson played as a linebacker for the New York Yankees of the All-America Football Conference (AAFC) from 1946 to 1949. In 1951, he played as a linebacker for the NFL's New York Yanks. CoachingEdit After eight years as an assistant coach and then defensive coordinator with the Buffalo Bills, Johnson first took the reins as head coach in 1968, when Joe Collier was fired one game into the season. The Bills went 1–10–1 with Johnson at the helm, and he was replaced the following year by John Rauch. Johnson returned to his role as the Bills' defensive backfield coach for two seasons before resuming the head coaching post in 1971. After finishing with a 1–13 record that year, Johnson was reassigned to the scouting department. He compiled a record of 2–23–1 in his two seasons. Johnson was also on the Buffalo Bills coaching staff when the Bills won the 1965 AFL Championship game. Johnson continued to work as a scout for the team until his death in 1983. It was speculated that Johnson's love of thoroughbred horse racing, a passion he shared with owner Ralph Wilson, allowed him to stay on the Bills payroll despite his poor performance in coaching.[1]

I miss Billy Brooks.

Beane was not the GM for the Mahomes draft. Maybe he would have picked him but if he did Mahomes would have a totally different development path. Mahomes is looking good now. After a full year on the bench under a veteran Alex Smith, with Andy Reid’s at the helm, and playing on a solid team on the rise. The Bills roster was was going to be purged with or without Mahomes as too many big salaries were coming and none of them included a franchise QB. The roster of Whaley could not be sustained as it continually pushed big salaries out to the point were 1/5 of the team was making a huge majority of the money. Never have they “jettisoned” players with quirks. They kept Incognito, McCoy, and Hughes- all of whom have “quirks” I guess. The traded players had salary issues or did not fit the plan or the culture. Or Harvey Johnson

He can say what he wants, it will not change his contract. The Bills won 9 games with marginal talent because they worked hard and bought in. No reason to think that mentality has changed. The talent level has dropped another notch or two, we can debate why or what they could have done different but we are who we are. Now they need to get to work and win a few.

He was a good teammate and a true professional. He stood there and took responsibility and accountability. I think he did his best and gave a honest effort. Yes, his arm is quite limited. Otherwise he was a good QB and I wish him the best.

Yes

This cant be! The experts on TSW say the Ducasse is the worst guard in the league. How dare a non bias grading system be put in place. As for Miller, he had a very rough first game. Good to hear he stepped up. Ive been saying for the past two games that Groy is not getting it done. I hope Bodine can at least make the line calls. Tired of seeing blitzes that are not picked up. Oh, you’re following the draft pundits and TSW folklore. You may know that Vlad sucks but the coaches and his grades say otherwise. He is having a good season thus far according to more reliable data from PFF.