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Tony Greene has the other 101 yard INT retutn. I remember this one, I can't find a video of it though. There were many other unfortunate flags thrown on the Bills in that 20 game losing streak. Sure seemed like something bad was going on there. I used to see Tony Greene and Bobby Chandler hanging out in town. They ate a local restaurant that I worked at. Both of them were excellent players, soft spoken, and class acts all the way.

Chris Berman gave the Bills a lot of positive support for decades. He even knew their mid 60's AFL Championship stars and he gave the speech that inducted Ralph into the HoF. He lacks the modern social media "flair" but he is the original outsider Bill fan. Berman all the way.

Good one. 😅 I can't think a Sal that I personally know anywhere else but in Buffalo.

Prior to draft day it was his interviews with teams that turned off many of the teams that needed QBs. He will get a chance to prove them wrong, or not.

To answer my question on who get revenues back. AI Overview Revenue Distribution from Buffalo Bills Stadium Usage The revenue generated from the new Buffalo Bills stadium will be distributed among the Pegulas (team owners), New York State, and Erie County. However, the exact breakdown of the ongoing revenue sharing can be complex and is subject to the terms of the stadium agreement, which involves the state owning the stadium and leasing it to the Bills for 30 years. Here's a breakdown of how different entities receive revenue: New York State, Erie County, and the City of Buffalo: These entities benefit from various taxes generated by the stadium's use, estimated at around $27 million annually. These include: Direct income taxes, sales taxes, and use taxes. Visitor spending at local businesses, generating additional sales tax revenue. The Pegulas (Buffalo Bills Owners): They will generate revenue primarily through ticket sales, concessions, merchandise sales, and other related income streams. While they are contributing significantly to the stadium's construction ($690 million), details on the precise profit-sharing arrangement regarding ongoing stadium revenues are not widely available in the provided search results. However, some sources suggest that any deal should include an increase in rent paid by the Bills and profit sharing of ticket and concession sales. Erie County: In addition to tax revenues, Erie County will receive surcharges on tickets, parking, and concessions, according to the deal with the Bills. Important Notes: The public contribution to the stadium's construction is substantial, with New York State contributing $600 million and Erie County contributing $250 million, according to AP News. Economic studies commissioned by the state and the team project a significant increase in revenue and over $1.6 billion in economic impact over the 30-year lease period. There has been some controversy surrounding the public funding for the stadium, with some arguing that the economic benefits may not outweigh the costs.

To answer my question on multi use. AI Overview Yes, the Buffalo Bills' new Highmark Stadium is designed as a multipurpose facility to host various events beyond football games, which will create economic benefits and new opportunities for the Buffalo community. While specific details and the full range of non-football events have not been fully detailed, the stadium's multi-purpose design ensures it will serve as a venue for a variety of events. Designed as a multipurpose venue The new stadium is intended to be a vibrant facility for the community. Officials have promoted the stadium as having the ability to host diverse events to provide economic benefits and generate tax revenue. Examples of potential events While not an exhaustive list, the multi-purpose design opens the door for concerts, other sporting events, and community gatherings. Focus on the fan experience The new stadium is centered on creating a fan-focused, football-first environment. It aims to foster the iconic culture of the Bills' fan base while creating a dynamic vision for the future of the franchise.

To answer my question on maintenance, the state and county pay for maintenance over 30 years, and that cost is already factored into their combined investment of $850M. BTW, these payments over 30 years are JOBS, so some portion of this tax money comes back to serve the community.

to answer one of my my questions, Pegula pays for all overruns. His 60% can grow, he is assuming that risk. No the taxpayers. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bills-stadium-costs-balloon-2-000057348.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACGs0N8eTEc8QixAO_jBA_ksTke-0vazDdGC1A1ws-q5krkdjm4mcQDQ4oh4CGoBD6SMlszkoeuACWVb-g9-aDlWac153iyBtkzE1T6wNWB2FDzgrR333Dtu2Q9kuElX9MbmhzrIdIOHqzmf4irbVyD95fNiM3Qu14ouSy6QtJ5B

Yup. And that is part of being a big league city and having nice things. The city and county get benefits from it too.

Can we get some more details here? Terry is paying $1.25B (60%) of the estimated cost of $2.1B Erie county pays $250M or 12%. NYS pays $600M or 28% Sure, Terry could have paid a bigger portion but 60% is not nothing and what else is in the deal? Who pays for the cost overruns in construction and readiness? Who pays for maintenance? Will the stadium be used for other events? Who gets revenues back (Terry, State, County) and how much do they get when the stadium is used?

The era difference is huge and cannot be ignored. In his era Reed had 7 pro bowl selections and Diggs had 4. Reed made the HoF, Diggs probably will not. Reed had to share targets with Lofton, Beebe and Thurman. Plus the league, and the Bills, were run first. Imagine Diggs getting less targets? He would have been insufferable, just like he was for Minnesota. Diggs had a great 3 years for Buffalo. Statistically the best of any Bills WR ever. He helped Allen become a star and deserves credit for that. I just don't see that as enough to to earn Bills Wall of Fame honors, especially given the playoff drops and the poor attitude. Reed had a longer Bills career, and was better at being a Buffalo Bill. To me those things matter when we talk about all time Bills greatness.

I became a fan in the 60's , the Bills AFL championship teams were very popular, but most of the sports memorabilia was local merch stuff, plus football cards and football magazines. AFL/NFL games were on Sunday only. I went through teens in the 70's and saw football really grow in popularity after the merger of the AFL into the NFL. MNF was huge. Sports pregame shows and cable highlight shows became extremely popular. I must admit from 1968 to 1972 the Bills were so bad that a lot of kids at my school had "other" NFL teams to follow. Dallas, Pittsburgh and Oakland were very popular. OJ playing under Lou Saban, plus Rich Stadium, brought the fans back to a fanatical level. This was maintained and increased over time despite the ups and downs of the team. Fandom today is a totally different thing and people spend big money on it. Since the 60's we have seen significant expansion, and the addition of cable TV coverage, MNF, Thursday Night Football, Sunday Night football, big dollar memorabilia collectors, internet chat, social media, streaming, legal gambling, etc.

Totally different eras, offense and defense are different today. The NFL is a pass first league now. The Bills in the Reed era were more balanced run/pass team.

He was one of the best in the league when it was critical that Allen have someone very good. He had a great run in Buffalo for awhile, but he decided to morph from a team leader to an awful pain in the locker room. He certainly is not NFL HoF level considering all the great WRs in the league. He is probably not Bills Wall of Fame level either. Time will tell.

That was enjoyable. I was there for many of them. you were allowed to taunt Ditka back then. He kept spitting on our carpet.

Lots of complaining here. This program is supposed to be reporting the softer side of the sport. The Bills story is teamwork, family, strong sense of community, pride, the underdog, never give up, etc. That is what we are getting. Just remember the days when the Bills were irrelevant, had no star players, and were barely on any the NFL national coverage. You get one life. Time tics away. I am enjoying this.

Since we are throwing out non McBeane era, let’s not forget Daryl Lamonica.

He once called a referee an over-officious jerk.

Butch Byrd was a great cornerback, and still not on the wall. He was also a very fine punt returner.

The Bills organization is classy. I love this team.

Yup. Safety.

Clearly, the Bills defense inability to come up with enough stops in the playoffs was the only thing holding this team back. The strategy can only be to improve the defense and reduce the number of points this team gives up. Balance is not the right word, but there is no one on the Bill defense that consistently comes up big like Allen does on offense. The recent draft was an effort to get more impact players on the defensive side of the ball. More defensive players have to step up. After that, it still takes some amount of luck. Just about every SB winner can point to a few key plays that went their way.

There will still be very good DTs when the Bills pick. Miami passed up a few higher rated DT prospects, they must love Grant.

This move will also help UPL and Devon Levi.

1. Don't trade with KC 2. Take BPA on defense - DT, DE, or CB