BigDingus

Oh thank God! I don't care that he thinks we'll trade up to #2, but the fact he believes we're taking Allen means we most certainly are NOT. YAAAAAAAAY!

It makes sense that 2 years in college wouldn't be as successful as 3 or 4, but each individual is their own case. Whether "experts" say they're too small, don't have a big arm, didn't play in a pro-system, had a bad combine, didn't play against good competition/played at a small school, etc. there's always SOMETHING different that can be pointed to to assume they won't do well in the NFL. Some people get drafted in the 1st round, then sit 3 years behind a first ballot HOF'er (Rodgers) and become great (who knows what would've happened with his career had he played day 1). Some people are mediocre their first 2 years, prompting their team to draft their replacement year 3, only to light it up & become a first ballot HOF'er themselves (Brees). Some get passed up repeatedly & don't get drafted until the 3rd or even 6th rounds because they're seen as projects, then prove the world wrong (Wilson & Brady). Then on the flip side you have people that tore it up in college, won Heisman's, won National Championships, broke NCAA records left & right, and ended up bombing out in the NFL. I think the most you can do is look at their in-game play, their decision making, their leadership, and their personality...and that's it. Are they smart? Do they party a lot & stir up controversy? Did they rise to the occasion in big games? How did they play against good teams? How's their work ethic & commitment? Do they have drug problems/possible suspensions? THOSE are the things that usually end up being the deciding factors in who ends up succeeding as an NFL QB. If multiple red flags pop up for those questions, history has shown us they usually fail. The rest of their success is based on what the coaches who drafted them do with them, and if they're developed well & put in a position to succeed.

Why would you assume I'm not bothered by Peterman? And although I am, I'm not nearly as bothered as I was with Tyrod for many obvious reasons. 1. One was a rookie 5th round pick, the other was a 7 year veteran. 2. One hadn't started a single game prior to this year, the other was on season 3 as a starter. 3. One has only 2 starts in his career (please tell me how to determine if a guy will have a sucky career in 1 & 1/2 games) to base all his merits on, while the other has 42. 4. He has gotten progressively more timid, and has lead us to dead last, or close to dead last, in passing offense every year he's been starter 5. He has a 3-24 record when their team goes down by even a SINGLE point at any time in the 4th quarter. 6. One was paid like a mid-tier starter, the other is paid like a 5th round rookie (which is virtually nothing) 7. One at least TRIES to look downfield, the other has no game awareness and continues to throw 2 yard passes to RB's when down by 20 on 3rd & long in the 4th quarter. 8. He has had 3 years as starter & only 1 game with 300 yards passing (and that took going into OT to BARELY hit), while he has twice as many games throwing for less than 70... And that's just the general things that bothered me about TT, along with him actually REGRESSING in his 3 seasons as starter. O

So because they're dead, that negates all criticism for all eternity? Every public figure gets criticism, even after death, yet suddenly it's off limits for Ralph Wilson? Man, so many Presidents would love to have those rules!

Tyrod was bad. You must not have been taking advantage of Game Pass, or missed quite a few games last year if you think he was still even "pretty good." He's only "serviceable" if you enjoy managing to barely beat bad-mediocre teams off the back of your defense, and completely falling apart against good teams unless the defense saves the day with 1000 turnovers. Also, Allen has bust written all over him, and it has nothing to do with him being Jewish. Most normal people could give a s*** if he's Jewish or not, same with NFL GM's & scouts. If a guy can be a franchise QB, he could be a Satanist who only eats goats slaughtered with his bare hands & they'd take him if he could throw for 250-300 yards & 2+ TD's a game.

I'd take ANYONE over Allen, and I think the Bills brass has the same mindset (thank God). Might as well say "I hate my job & don't want a career anymore" if you draft him.

Their breakdown seems weird....just this alone raises tons of red flags - Top QBASE Projections, 1997-2017 Player / QBASE: Philip Rivers 1964 Carson Palmer 1916 Donovan McNabb 1799 Baker Mayfield 1480 Russell Wilson 1288 Peyton Manning 1279 Marcus Mariota 1277 Byron Leftwich 1216 Aaron Rodgers 1216 Ben Roethlisberger 1211 So based on these same metrics, they had Byron Leftwich ahead of Aaron Rodgers & Ben Roethlisberger? Or Carson Palmer above Peyton Manning? I think Mayfield will be good too, but the way they put value on QB's pre-draft projections seems off if these are the results. Darnold having a 52% Bust rating & 4% Elite rating compared to Luke Faulk's 54% & 7%? Wtf is going on there?

All I care about is Texas Tech being in the Elite 8 for the first time ever!!!! Although they'll likely lose to Villanova today, it's been a crazy ride! Hope Kansas wins so they can get beat by Tech in the Final Four

No, it's definitely relevant in context of our franchise futility. It also goes hand in hand with our terrible GM's, coaches, and management philosophy prior to Beane. And in terms of this board, we have yet again countless people in the "kick the can ahead to next year again!" camp...the same people who always say "wait until next year" to draft a QB because they're afraid everyone is a bust if they're not automatically labeled the best QB of all time prior to stepping foot in the league. 100% relevant.

Darnold----Face of Franchise Rosen------Solid Starter (Alex Smith esque) Allen--------Bust Mayfield--Solid Starter (potentially Face of Franchise) Jackson---Weak Starter (backup) Rudolph - Weak Starter (backup)

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/3/25/17129282/buffalo-bills-have-never-picked-a-quarterback-in-the-top-10-of-the-nfl-draft-three-teams "Since the NFL merger in 1970, the Bills are one of three teams to never have used a top-10 draft pick at the most important position in the game. Buffalo is joined on this list by the Minnesota Vikings and Baltimore Ravens." "Buffalo has only used a first-round draft pick on a quarterback three times, with one winding up as a Hall of Famer, and the other two leaving Buffalo after disappointing tenures. The last two times the Bills picked a quarterback in the first round, they missed badly on their quarterback of the future." And we've only been to the playoffs a handful of times outside of the Kelly era... We always try the "build a strong team around a game manager" approach, and we end up with the same results. We bring a new coach who has a renewed commitment to a "strong running game, combined with a hard-nosed defense" philosophy. Then we end up as a mediocre, middle of the road team, coach gets fired, new guy comes in & guts the previous regime's roster, and starts the cycle all over again. Hopefully Beane realizes this cycle needs to change & does what needs to be done.

The Colts probably notified Beane that they got a better offer. They let them know what that offer was, and told them the point value of what it was, but not the exact details (as to hide the potential bidder's identity). Beane then had to decide if it was a bluff, and if the Colts were just trying to milk them for more, or if this was true & he'd have to reevaluate his offer. I doubt the Colts just phoned them and said "Hey, the Jets are offering us ________ ! What you got now?"

It also seems the usually 1 of the 2 guys ends up being hits, or 1 of the guys has a career cut short by injuries.

The Bills sure do like to trade with Cleveland for 1st round picks lol

What do the " ^ " marks by Rashad Penny & Baker Mayfield signify?

Some of the strangest superstition I've ever seen in my life, but hey, thanks for posting!

The Browns already have so many damn picks it's insane. Grabbing a boatload more from the Bills would be ridiculous. There's no way half those guys are making the team already, so piling on even more for THIS draft seems like overkill. I'd take picks if they were from the 2019 draft, sure. I mean, more picks is always good no matter what draft class it is, but sometimes it's better to gradually build instead of dump you load on ONE class, and hope they all pan out.

Yup, smart move on their part.

I'd trade all of those names in a heartbeat for any of the top 3 QB's. We've tried the "build a team around a game manager" for 18 years, and it results in failure every time. Not about to start that crap all over again.

I work as an officer in a jail, and suggesting that women can't handle security like men can is ridiculous. I work in a direct supervision facility, where 1 officer is in a pod with 72 inmates at a time...ALONE. And the women there can handle their sh** better than most males. Hell, their command presence alone ends up discouraging people from touching them, whereas the men end up getting hurt far more often (thankfully I haven't been). Just because their was a female guarding Obama and got knocked down, doesn't mean a man couldn't get knocked down. In fact, watch any number of videos during the Bush era & his guards got knocked over plenty of times (my uncle was secret service for him). Many women CAN do security. A 66 year old paraplegic can NOT though...and that's the problem.

Could we really not afford $4 million for 1 year for an above average player at an extremely important position?

But, but, but... "Wait until next year to draft a QB! There's no sure-thing in this draft class!" is the favorite line of 95% of Bills fans come draft time. Year after year, they say next year's class is the one. Then the time comes, they get cold feet since they don't see the next Joe Montana, then decide failing to ever get a franchise QB but not drafting a bust, is better than trying to draft one at all, because hey, he might not be Tom Brady....so why even try? They fail to realize that eventually it'll get so bad, we get stuck NEEDING to draft a QB no matter what, and get stuck with someone like EJ Manuel as our only option because everyone sucks balls.

Everyone knew he'd have a good pro day & combine before either happened! It's rarer for a QB to NOT have a good pro day than to have one, considering they control & setup all the entire event. It's all a well choreographed show, and not even close to representative of being in-game. On the field, he's nowhere close to that good. Why don't you go back & look at what teams are in his division, and who he played against. Here's a hint, the other teams in his conference had the same types of players on their roster too, yet he still couldn't beat them or put up monster numbers! When all your competition has the same level of players, your excuse can't be "I have nobody around me to work with, that's why I'm bad!" The response to that is "well so did everyone else!"

The only way the Bills are interested in Rudolph is due to necessity and the Jets ruining their plans. Rudolph (or anyone outside of the big 3...yes, I'm not counting Josh Allen) was always going to be around, and the Bills were building & preparing since last draft to pick their guy THIS draft. They were obviously planning on Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield, and then with the offseason moves they've made, positioned themselves to move up & grab them. The Jets ruined that, so NOW they're interested in Rudolph or Jackson.

They shouldn't.