BigDingus

Only the Music City BS (I was 13), and NEARLY the Cowboys MNF game. I teared up, but didn't cry for the latter.... I was just so pissed that we collapsed in such epic fashion on our first MNF game in 13 years, all while I was living in Dallas & went to a bar with a bunch of Cowboys fans hoping to pull off the upset (we hadn't won a game I believe, and they were undefeated). But yeah, besides those 2, the Bills tend to enrage me more than make me want to cry. The McKelvin fumble to lose against the Pats, the choke job on national TV against Brady Quinn, the throttling we got last year on TNF against the Jets...pretty much any nationally televised game the Bills find a way to blow it.

I never cared, and still don't, regarding what players do & don't do for the anthem. Kneeling was never disrespectful before this, now suddenly it shows contempt for the country? Uh what? And the fact a US Army Ranger is the one that proposed that as a form of peaceful protest, shows there was never any intent to disrespect the country. On top of that, since I was 16, I have only missed 3 Bills games period, and not one single time have I ever seen a person at the bar, my house, or wherever I'm watching suddenly get up and stand when the anthem came on... Were they all disrespecting the country? No.. The funny thing is there were only several people, all backups and no-names, across the league still kneeling when the POTUS brought it up again...then suddenly half the league starts doing it in response. Did anyone really give a s*** that 3rd stringer Joe Whats-his-face on the Titans was kneeling off screen? No...but all of a sudden because of phony outrage, and players getting ticked, half the league rebels & does it. My wife is in the military, I'm in law enforcement, and I come from a family of both, yet I seriously never once thought "OMG! That guy kneeled! He hates the US and all I believe in!" But man, do I have to hear about it every second on ESPN radio (and every other outlet) from all the people supposedly upset in my defense...

As much as I wish the Bills would have a new stadium built to play in, I know it's not feasible. Buffalo just doesn't have the population or they high-end demographic that could really justify the expense, and using tax payer money is always a raw deal for the locals. If the population of the metro area consisted of more wealthy people, with a large upper middle-class and higher, it would probably be ok even if the population was small. But since the average income is so low, and there isn't a high demand for luxury suites or corporations to shell out a lot of money for large groups of season tickets, a new stadium would probably not attract the amount of money needed to make the investment worth it. And unless there's a roof tacked on, the stadium still won't be full during the winter just like every other year (people tend to believe that we always sell out regardless of weather, or if we have a winning team, but even during the Kelly era, plenty of seats remained empty at that time). I think the best bet would be going for a cheaper, smaller, better quality venue like Pittsburgh. Even adjusted for inflation, the Heinz Field costed only $529 million to build. Or we could attempt something like the Cardinals, which built their stadium for $661 million (adjusted for inflation). Either way, just due to being in NY, the costs will be higher, but there's no reason the stadium has to hit $1 billion or get anywhere close to that.

Unfortunately, nothing Allen does in OTA's, mini-camp, voluntary workouts, practice, etc. will be impressive, as he has never had a problem with that aspect (his draft stock alone is proof of that). It's what he does on the field that is concerning, so until he looks impressive on the field, it's hard to get excited. The entire reason he was picked so high was based on his POTENTIAL and what he COULD do if developed properly. It sure wasn't for his win-loss record, play in big games, stats, All-Conference selections, accuracy, or standout college career. Even though people love to say "Preseason games don't matter!" I'll be impressed if he performs well even if it's against 3rd stringers. As long as it's on the field against NFL competition, it'll go a long way towards proving he's worth the hype.

Well... Allen's completion percentage just went up 4% with this news. Guess he might actually hit 60% this year!

A good game? Wtf are you talking about?! You must LOVE Tyrod then, as he puts Johnson to shame. Rob Johnson - 10 of 22 passing (45% comp.) for 131 yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's, 6 sacks & 3 fumbles, with a 64.8 passer rating. DAMN! Killer game he had! Yup, he did everything he could to win that game! How many coaches have you ever seen bench the QB that lead them to a 10-5 record, a clinched playoff spot in week 16, had already lead them to the playoffs the year before, and replaced them with an unproven guy who was hadn't won jack, was always injured, and had averaged 122 yards a game up until that point in his career? ZERO. In 6 games the year before (1998), Johnson was sacked 29 friggin times! In Flutie's 10 games that year, he was sacked 12 times.........Johnson was bad from start to finish, Flutie actually did something. But yeah, try & justify the ridiculousness that was that decision. Johnson the injury-plagued statue was never the "good" option for that game, even if our team did everything it could to win.

Nobody outside of Buffalo EVER would be dumb enough to seriously think starting Rob Johnson was a good move. The fact 46 people said Rob Johnson just shows how much denial still exists in this fandom. When your starting QB leads you to a 10-5 season and clinched a playoff birth before week 17, you do NOT pull a switcheroo and throw in an unproven guy to start your playoff game! In what f'n world does any non biased person think that makes sense? NOBODY outside of random deluded Bills fans would be capable of the mental gymnastics required to make that leap. Besides the obvious skill/talent disparity, you instantly cause turmoil in the locker room and lose your credibility as a leader. You have one guy that your team went into battle with game after game, respected, followed and played for, suddenly get yanked and replaced with a guy who had done nothing but lose games & get hurt, and hadn't earned anyone's respect. Oh, and you really think a week or two of 1st team reps is good enough for the players to get a sense of all the ins and outs of that QB's play style? Is their timing going to be anywhere close to as refined and ingrained as the guy they went through OTA's, minicamp, practice and 15 games with? And the fact that they knew the starting QB did nothing wrong to validate losing his spot on the fly makes it even worse! You have people on these boards that couldn't even grasp the logic behind starting Peterman in the San Diego game, when Tyrod had actually been playing like garbage, wasn't half as successful as Flutie, and it was a REGULAR SEASON GAME against a team that had a losing record! Yet somehow pulling your starter who didn't s*** the bed several straight games, had already clinched a playoff birth (and lead you to one prior), and doing so in a PLAYOFF GAME makes sense? The stupidity of those people is baffling. It doesn't even matter if the Music City Miracle happened or not, or if the Bills had won the game! It was still so asinine that it's a point of what not to do to this day! How many coaches have you seen pull a turd move like this since then (or even before)? NONE. You know why? Because it doesn't make sense on any rational level. If you would seriously make that move (and apparently 46 of you would), your opinions on football are irrelevant. /rant

If I were Foles, I'd prefer to stay in Cleveland too. You're basically the hero of that city, played lights out, and have a chance to be a major contributor on a stacked team if Wentz can't play for any reason. You also have a coach that works his system around the players he has instead of the other way around, which allows you to perform to the best of your abilities. And he already has experience going to play for a dud coach in a dud system when he played for Fisher in St. Louis. Why go through that mess again when you know you're only being singed as a bridge guy? The second you do something wrong, or a game goes poorly, the blame goes to you & the fans who have no allegiance towards you will be calling for you head. Screw that.

I know you're being sarcastic, but considering he threw for 1 TD & 8 INT's against Power 5 schools, I don't think his redzone percentage would look that good against the teams those other QB's played against. So were the DB's he played against. So were the linebackers he played against. So were the D-lines he played against. So were the coaches he played against. And in the MWC, he wasn't even voted as one of the QB's to the All-Conference team. Lol that means other QB's from those crappy schools with their crappy lines and their crappy WR's somehow managed to outclass him. The talent he played with doesn't matter when everyone else has a level playing field.

And where did he finish everywhere else? Simply not throwing interceptions & dumping it off all the time will certainly increase your passer rating. But leading the 30th-32nd ranked passing offense every year he was the starter shows he was pretty underwhelming in every other category. And he had ample talent on both sides of the ball, and he had a team that was projected to compete for a playoff spot since they were "just a QB away" from being great according to experts that offseason. Kyle Orton was 8-6 with this team, with the Bills finishing 9-7 on the year. Tyrod came in and did nothing special. Then every year from there he got worse and more timid. But yeah, he was so "efficient," and was better in 1 specific category that doesn't reflect how good he actually was as a QB. It's a myth Tyrod was efficient. He lacked situational & game awareness. If it's 3rd & 13, you're down by 2 scores, and there's 5 mins left in the 4th, how efficient is it to throw the ball 2 yards downfield to the RB without going through your reads? What about when the opposing team keeps marching down the field all game, scoring drive after drive, all while you go 3 & out because he won't even ATTEMPT to throw to the 1st down marker? When you see you're down by over 20 points late in the 3rd quarter, is it really "efficient" to dump it off & punt just so you don't risk throwing an INT? If he had ANY sense of urgency whatsoever, and played like he wanted to win, Tyrod could've been very good. But the fact his record was 3 - 23 in games we went down by even ONE point at any time in the 4th quarter just further highlights his inability to make the necessary plays required of the position. He rather run 3 yards and lose the game than try to throw for a crucial 1st down & risk making any mistake. Weak.

If it weren't for NY state having such high taxes and construction costs, it'd be a done deal by now. Plenty of new stadiums in the last 10 years have gone up for under $1 Billion, it's just that they have the luxury of not being located in New York. $1.4 Billion for a new stadium is absurd for Buffalo. Metlife was $1.6 Billion, and was the most expensive stadium ever built (but also had 2 teams paying for it), yet a new stadium for the Bills would cost $1.4 Billion???? That's just unnecessary. I doubt it. There were empty seats during the glory years while going to 4 straight Super Bowls, especially in the winter. And with Buffalo being even smaller now, it's unlikely we'd get much better turnout with higher prices.

I hope you're right. There's nothing in his college career hat makes me believe he will be as good as either of those 2, but I'm hopeful the Bills find a way to turn him around. Stafford played in the SEC and got better each season, while putting up impressive numbers against good competition his final year. And Big Ben was a beast in the MAC, just killing it through the air. Allen didn't do much of anything in the Mountain West, didn't play as much as those 2, and took a step back his final year. I'm not really confident he can read a defense, but REALLY hoping he will learn. He has a great arm for sure, but for a team that wants to pound the ball, he will have to learn to throw those short - intermediate routes, as well as get his timing routes down quickly. I also hope he learns to release it early, as he won't be able to step back & get much time to throw with this O-line losing its 3 best starters. And he better be able to take a hit, because chances are he's gonna get smacked around a lot due to that awful line.

Currently Use - 1. Thurman Thomas (Authentic-Away Game Jersey / Signed) 2. Jim Kelly Home (Official / Current Style) 3. Custom Home (Official / Current Style) ****Old**** 1. Marcell Dareus (Home / Replica / Current Style) 2. Marshawn Lynch (Home / Ugly Navy style) 3. Drew Bledsoe (Home / Ugly Navy style) Purchased for Wife - 1. Jim Kelly (Home/ Current Style) 2. Custom Home (Current Style) ****Old**** 1. Sammy Watkins (Home / Current Style) 2. Marshawn Lynch (Home / Ugly Navy Style) So yeah...just buying retired players from this point on. Got tired of my jerseys being irrelevant the year I buy them. Bought the Dareus one for myself, and the Watkins one for my wife before this season. Both got traded. FFFFFFFFF that. Not even gonna chance getting an Allen jersey. He's already got a ton of red flags, don't want to jinx it even more. Just gotta work on getting Bruce and Reed jerseys next.

In terms of pure skill, it was either him or Bruce who were the best players on the team. As much as I love Jim, he was significantly behind those 2 overall. Jim gets the most recognition being the QB, but he wasn't ever close that dominant at his best. Thurman was an absolute beast, and rushing numbers could've been even better had he not been so damn good in the passing game too. His numbers the following year were just as good as '91. He had 1,487 rushing, 626 receiving and 12 TD's. Only problem was he fumbled a decent amount that season. Man I miss watching him play

To be fair, they can say the same about us. The Bills have been equally inept at drafting and developing QBs, and as a franchise have been in the dumps just as much overall. Hell, both of our total win/loss records are neck & neck, with us barely edging them out. Since 1960, the Bills have a .467% win percentage, going 409-467-8 overall. (#23) Since 1960, the Jets have a .454% win percentage, going 397-479-8 overall. (#26) Since the merger, the Bills have made the playoffs 15 times in their history. They are 12-15 in those games, with 4 Super Bowl losses. The Jets have made the playoffs 14 times in their history. They are 12-13 in those games, with 1 Super Bowl victory. We both have 1 HOF QB in our history, with our's being better and their's being more iconic. Other than that, we've had mountains of garbage and a few decent-above average players. If we were putting together a top 5 list of Jets & Bills QB's (without Kelly & Namath), it'd probably go: 1. Vinny Testaverde 2. Joe Ferguson 3. Ken O'Brien 4. Drew Bledsoe 5. Chad Pennington (or Doug Flutie, toss up) Anyway, I was bored...just wanted to throw out how similar the two of our franchises are in terms of historical success & ability to develop QB's lol

I think all fans "support" him and WANT him to do well, the only problem is he's shown the least out of all the 1st round QB's and against the worst competition. He's got the most red flags & questions marks, and it's very, VERY hard to picture the Bills being an organization capable enough to turn him into a franchise QB. With our history of developing QB's, and a lack of veteran QB's on the roster for him to learn from & sit behind, it's an almost monumental task ahead of them to get this right. But I'll be there supporting him, cheering him on, and believing in him all the way. It's just a huge risk they took, and it has people nervous.

I don't know why people always forget this, but we had one of the best Guards in the league for years in Reuben Brown. Since we've included people like Eric Moulds who played on the same team as him for quite a while, figured Brown should get a nod too. The guy started in all 181 games he played in, was a 9-time Pro Bowl selection, and 4 time All-Pro. The guy should be above any linemen we have, regardless of position, because he was that good. Also, I'd change: QB #1: Drew Bledose (only if we're talking about in their prime, as he could actually make use of a roster this talented) RB#2 : Marshawn Lynch (need at least 2 RB's on the team) FB: Larry Centers (He might not have played for us long, but prime Larry Centers was one of the top 20 FB's of all time. Hell, he was still good for us in his 2 years.) LG, RG, or any O-line whatsoever: Reuben Brown (Reasons stated above) WR #3: Terrell Owens (Again, only if we're talking about in their prime..but then he'd be WR #1 for sure, but drop Stevie for him & keep the other 2) DT#2: Marcel Dareus (Just a more athletic, and more talented DT than Pat Williams, although Pat was great too) KR #1: Terrence McGee (I know you have him as a CB, but people forget how good he was in the return game as well) PR #1: Roscoe Parrish (The little dude could run, nuff' said)

In terms of what they did on the field and the success they brought to the team, Thurman for sure. In regards to who they are as a person, on top of the kind of player they were, Fred Jackson.

Exactly. And to the other guy who thinks we'll just automatically have a good run game...we regressed last year, and will likely regress more this year. 3 out of 5 of our starting O-linemen are gone, and they just so happened to be our 3 best ones. Shady is getting older, and our depth is worse at the position. I wouldn't say we have "plenty," in regards to a good run game.

I get people's desire to bash the guy, and I hate him myself, but nothing I or anyone else can say can change what he's done on the field (unfortunately). The guy is the GOAT in my opinion, and I can't wait for the day he retires. Tears of joy will stream down my face. It'll be my own personal Super Bowl. But the dude is just so dominant it hurts. I'm pretty sure they threw out a stat recently that he has more wins in Buffalo than any of our starting QB over the last few decades other than Jim Kelly...That's insane. People act like the Dolphins teams in the 70's were some monumental hump to get over, and sure, they were at the time. But Brady has been killing us for over a decade now, and there's still no true end in sight.

Bingo! The OP complains about journalistic integrity, whining about the press printing a story that actually happened, all while simultaneously spreading that same story for more people to read. Makes sense... If you found it so abhorrent, maybe don't get more people to read it. Also, it's a matter of record, and a grand jury found enough evidence to warrant an indictment, and prosecutors were ready to go to trial. Those facts alone speak volumes, whether he was convicted of anything or not. But hey, he's innocent in the eyes of the law, has a cushy coaching gig, and has made millions of dollars in his lifetime, so it is what it is. You guys who say things like "it's been ____ amount of years, who cares now?!" or "if it mattered, why did it take so long for anyone to say something/find out!?" also have issues. It's not like a crime suddenly wasn't committed because X amount of time went by.... If I shot my wife and nobody found out for 40 years, guess what? I still shot my wife. Simply reporting on actual events isn't some scandalous thing to do, regardless of how long ago the event occurred. If you don't care about it, move on. If you do, then have at it. But to vilify the journalist who reported on a very serious event in someone's past that they found of possible interest to the public (as if past actions are automatically absolved because time went on...), is ridiculous when you found it worth mentioning yourself, and shared it with more people. Don't be a hypocrite.

Don't start Allen from day 1... The guy is the most raw out of all the "Big 4" rookie QB's, and has the most to learn and get caught up on in regards to NFL speed, playbook, competition, etc. He also has an awful O-line and WR corps, along with an aging RB who will have even less holes opening for him this coming season. He'll inevitably get injured, or worse, benched, possibly setting back his confidence and opening him up to endless questions throughout the season about if he's NFL ready or not. Rather not throw him in that situation unless we have no other options. The Bills only get one chance to do this right. Better safe than sorry. Thanks for that. Interesting listen. I find it intriguing as well. You could make an argument for any one of them, although the Peterman one is a little far-fetched. But hey, you never know what could happen in OTA's, training camp, pre-season, etc. and if he somehow gets the call as starter, I'll be cautiously optimistic the coaching staff saw something in him that gives them confidence.

And if I didn't make it clear, hell yeah I'd want Josh McCown on this roster right now. You didn't watch many Jets games last year either did you? He at least helped them over achieve until he got injured, when they were predicted to be the worst team in the league last year. In 13 games he averaged 225 yards per game, had 18 TD's to 9 INT's, a 67.3% completion rating, and 94.5 passer rating. Yeah, truly awful. For his career, he's thrown for 17,000+ yards, 97 TD's and 78 INT's with an 80.8 passer rating...as a backup and journeyman. ****************************************************************************************************** Here's what other people and outlets, apparently who you're much smarter than, have said about him: "Unofficially, McCown is the most giving teammate in the history of professional football. Officially, McCown is an incredible resource for any young signal caller hoping to learn the intricacies of playing the most important position in team sports. His winding 16-year journey through the NFL has included eight stops. I dare you to find one former teammate or coach that doesn't speak about him in effusive tones." "McCown may not be the best player at his position on the field, but few quarterbacks in the game are considered to be better teachers. This is a future head coach we’re talking about. What McCown may lack in skill, he makes up for with his locker room presence, especially when it comes to helping younger signal callers." "McCown was an ancient wonder last season with limited means in New York" "The elder statesman has been around the block more than a few times — the wisdom he could pass on to Darnold is endless. Whether it pertains to on-the-field matters, living life in the NFL or whatever else, there’s so much Darnold could learn from his new teammate." And here's an article from yesterday contrasting Alex Smith's attitude and help with Patrick Mahomes compared to Big Ben's with Mason Rudolph - https://www.yahoo.com/news/listen-ben-patrick-mahomes-says-alex-smith-always-helping-192241618.html And here's an article ranking all 32 NFL QB Rooms after the 2018 NFL Draft (Spoiler: Bills ranked exactly where they should be) - http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-team-by-team-depth-charts-2018-nfl-draft/dqwmovshyin1szrr3sfoyns5 "32. Buffalo Bills QB depth chart: AJ McCarron, Josh Allen, Nathan Peterman McCarron's value at one point was overrated by the Browns and other teams, and his backup-like contract in Buffalo validates that. The Bills having less than a reliable stopgap doesn't mesh with Allen being such a project. Peterman will need to recover from his being shellshocked as a rookie."

It just shows who knows football and who doesn't. Those that disregard the importance of having a veteran are those who don't. McCown has been widely praised by experts and veterans, hall of famers and respected memebers of the league, and everyone with any knowledge and experience in league circles, up and down for his locker room presence, leadership and mentoring abilities. It's the reason a lot of the best coaches and assistant coaches are former players who were backups in the league, not starters. There's a reason Frank Reich is a hot commodity and well respected among coaching circles and not Jim Kelly. It's the reason Jason Garrett has a HC coaching job and not Troy Aikman. The backup signal callers end up being the ones that have great minds for coaching, and those that have been around the league for a long time pass on a lot of knowledge to younger QB's that find far more on-field success. Maybe pay attention to those with far more knowledge than us about the game instead of just assuming "backup = not important."

No, those are all superior to ours. Cleveland - Tyrod Taylor has 3 years of starting experience and 8 years in the league. They also have Drew Stanton, been in the league since 2008 and has played in 5 times as many games as our roster combined. Chicago - Trubisky showed promise, and got his rookie season out of the way. He has twice as many starts as our roster combined. Indy - Andrew Luck is returning, and either way he's had more success than anyone the Bills have had since Kelly. Just backing him up and training with him is valuable. They also have Jacoby Brissett who started games with the Patriots & played a year under Bill Belichick, coupled with playing all 16 games last season. Again, over twice as many starts as our unit combined. He posted 3,098 yards (more than Tyrod ever has), 13 TD's and 7 INT's for an 81.7 rating, which is admirable with the roster he had. Jacksonville - Made it to the AFC Championship game last year & almost beat the Patriots. Bortles may not be ideal, but he has a TON more experience than our guys, playing all but 2 games for 4 straight seasons. Threw for 3,687 yards, 21 TD's and 13 INT's last year with an 84.7 rating. Better than what we've had. Miami - Tannehill is back, and has again, been better than anything we've had for 18+ years. Far more starts than our unit combined, along with Brock Osweiler, who's not very good but is better & than Peterman at least, and also has more starts than our unit combined. Houston - Watson showed he's the real deal. Along with him, they have Brandon Weeden who's a quality veteran backup, something again we don't have. Still more starts than our unit combined. Baltimore - Joe Flacco isn't great, but he's at least decent and won a Super Bowl. He has shown he can play well when he wants to, and has far more experience (getting old stating this) than everyone we have combined. As backups, they have RGIII, and Lamar Jackson. RGIII and Flacco can teach their rookie in Jackson far more than Peterman and McCarron can teach Allen.