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True, but kind of dumb at the same time. Him & Jarvis Landry both have over 550 yards half way through the season, and it's not like they're playing on some fantastic team. In comparison, our best WR has only 28 more yards than Beckham, and he's our definitive #1 WR. The Browns have the luxury of having two great WR's, so obviously Odell isn't going to get ALL the targets... I dunno, I guess I'm just used to seeing such weak production at the WR position that I'd be thrilled having 2 that are on pace to both have 1,000 yard seasons.

Gotta disagree. I don't think it's any one person, but the every game lately I see Edmunds making tackles well downfield, rarely meeting the RB at the line. And when he does, he's too tall & hitting up high, so he gets pushed back or plowed over. I'm not saying Edmunds is even bad or anything, only that for whatever reason (scheme, positioning, I don't know) he hasn't been very good at stopping the run. I mentioned his height because I'm starting to think his lengthy body might make it harder for him to get down & stop these strong, stout RB's at the point of contact. It helps in pass defense though, so it's a give & take.

Not to mention it's showing Jim's stats through 6 games & Josh's stats through 8 games...

2015: Tyrod Taylor Completion %: 67.9 Yards: 1,669 TD's: 11 INT's: 4 Guess he was better than Kelly & Allen 2014: Kyle OrtonCompletion %: 64.2Yards: 2,000TD's: 13INT's: 5Guess he was also better than Kelly & Allen

The Facebook post of this image posted on the Bills Mafia page has people actually using it to claim Kelly wasn't that good & would only be "average," today because of how much better QB's like Allen are... This is what happens when people post misleading images online to push an agenda. People are now dragging down are best QB in franchise history to prop up the one we have now. "Duwayne WayneWonder Demps - All the older QB' stats are getting beat now it should it's a different time if Kim Kelly played now he would have been average not a franchise QB" That's just an example of the kind of mentality people have to prop up their agenda.

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Front page of ESPN.com right now. And people say we don't get enough love

The fact that you and others are even making comparisons to championship caliber teams of the past, even if only to make a point, just shows out of touch this fanbase is with the realities of this team. It's not just about the amount of points or W/L record, it's HOW THEY ACTUALLY PLAY ON THE FIELD! For real people, believe it or not, people do watch our games sometimes and what they see isn't convincing. Our QB is young and doesn't do any one thing particularly well, though he does fumble a lot & throw a good amount of picks. At the same time, he does just enough in the 4th quarter to help the team win, which is all the fans care about but not the rest of the world who watches. When the offense just kind of meanders through a couple quarters each game (especially the 3rd quarter where they often do nothing), and when they're doing this against some of the worst opponents in the league, it's hard to consider this team a genuine threat to anybody. And now that the defense has shown they can't stop the run, even when they specifically gameplan to stop the run, how can anyone be surprised we're not getting showered with praise? The media IS talking about us, plenty actually...just not all sunshine & rainbows like the fans want. I live in Texas, and I hear Bills talk almost daily whereas I never used to hear it during the drought. Beat someone relevant, play ONE great game against ANYONE, hell, play a good full 4 quarters against anyone... Then whine about not getting enough praise. Don't go 3 quarters letting the Dolphins get the best of you AT HOME, or don't require a TD in the last 2 mins against the currently 0-8 Bengals at HOME to come from behind & escape with a victory and expect the national press to anoint you as world beaters. * * * Also, front page of ESPN.com right now - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27973780/bills-mafia-blends-ketchup-mustard-nfl-season-shot-hope Bills coverage, even if it is about the fanbase.

? Poor Any Reid... he's definitely a great coach, but for whatever reason can't win those playoff games. We can all agree that's a record that'll never be broken... If only those 2000's Eagles teams made the Super Bowl more often instead of just losing NFC Championship games, maybe they could've done it

I really hope it doesn't happen, because there's no way he's getting back up to try 4 straight again. If we face them in the playoffs and knock them off, then get humiliated the following week, I'll still consider it a resounding success.

The fact that the record is there probably doesn't hurt his motivation, that's for sure. Brady seems like a super, self-motivated guy so any huge record he can take down is something he probably uses to motivate himself. It'll be sad to see someone else make 4 straight Super Bowls, especially since he's already won 2 of them...if they go to 4 straight and win 3 of them? It really takes the piss out of us holding up 4 straight losses

It doesn't fit the narrative. You still have people saying "if only finished the Pats game I think we would've won!" Even if he managed 1 more TD, his play against the Pats vs Jackson's play against the Pats couldn't have been more different. One looked up to the challenge, the other looked afraid of it. Yet here people would've built that statue anyway, stats or not, had Allen come through. And somehow Jackson is worth mocking due to the praise he's getting, not good enough, and overrated.... makes total sense.

And 18 fumbles...

And yet somehow we're still the underdogs lol. I still don't see an easy game left on our schedule with the way the Bills play. Under normal circumstances, a young QB beating a good team would be considered a "signature win." But that just doesn't seem possible with this schedule or the way we play, so the next best thing is to beat up on a lesser team to get your "signature win." I'd like to see Allen do that this weekend. Time to show you're more than a turnover prone, 200 yard passer who struggles to throw deep. Beat down the Browns and prove this 6-2 team can actually lay a beating on somebody.

Makes sense. But that has a lot to do with the Bills & Dolphins having a great rivalry in the 90's. Marino & Kelly mattered. The Colts were just starting to become relevant, but didn't have the history yet. Geographically the Dolphins don't fit as much as the other 4.

Credibility? He was arguing with a guy who is trying to suggest the only thing separating Allen & Jackson are their supporting casts lol

Jackson is better than Allen at this point. It's not supporting cast... you need to actually watch the games. Any non-biased observer would be able to see that. Josh Allen has not been good this year, but at least he's shown signs of improvement lately, even with his weak numbers.

Well it's accurate. Just depends on how Bills fans feel about making the playoffs just to be bounced in the WC round again. At this point, I guess I'm fine with it. I just want to see some growth going into next season when we likely won't have such an easy schedule. Even if we get smashed in the playoffs, making it twice in 3 years is better than once every 18 years.

I get how we'd fit in the AFC North, but based on location, the Dolphins fit more in the AFC South. The Jets, Bills & Pats are much closer geographically, while the Fins are the odd man out. Not sure how to relocate all the other teams around, but I still believe the only reason the Colts were moved to the South instead of the Dolphins was how relevant the Dolphins were in the 90's as opposed to the Colts.

As far as I'm concerned the Bills are 0-0 heading into every game going forward. Threads like this existed all over the place the last 2 times we jumped out to 5 wins, then proceeded to crap the season away. I may be a bit superstitious, but after what I've seen, assuming the Bills will win any game looking ahead on our schedule is foolish. Just like I & many others have stated prior to losing to the Eagles, we could've just as easily been 1-5 heading into that game as 5-1. I didn't think the Eagles was a gimmie game at all, and I don't think the Redskins, Browns, Broncos, Jets, Dolphins, or anyone left on our schedule is either. That's why it was ALWAYS important to take note of how we won, not just ignore it & say "a win's a win!" Yes, W/L record is all that matters at the end of the year, but when you still have over half a season of football ahead of you, how you play against the league's worst teams gives a good indication of if you're for real or just a paper tiger.

The problem with this whole size thing is Aaron Donald is almost the EXACT same size, weight and body type as him... and his size has not been a problem at all. That's why Oliver was so often compared to Donald throughout his college career. Ed Oliver - 6'1, 287 lbs ; 31 & 3/4th" arm length ; 9 & 1/4th" hand size Aaron Donald - 6'1, 284 lbs ; 32 & 5/8th" arm length; 9 & 7/8th" hand size Anyway, they're extremely similar physically, so it's not like he can't excel at the DT position.

A decent amount actually... Marcel Dareus, Ndamukong Suh, Aaron Donald, Fletcher Cox, Gerald McCoy (pre-injury), Kawann Short, etc. all were impact players whether getting big sack numbers or not. I'm not upset Oliver isn't getting sack numbers (though I'd like to see more sacks in general), but it is kind of disappointing that he doesn't seem to be making as much of an impact as people expected. It wasn't just Bills fans expecting him to be a massive difference maker either, nation-wide it was heralded as a great pick. Look at this article for instance, it ranks him as the #1 choice to win DROY - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-defensive-rookie-of-the-year-picture-ranking-the-top-10-candidates/

Any reason you believe that after seeing how easily Miami & Philly ran against us?

C'mon...don't jinx us lol You should know by now there is no easy win for this team no matter who we're playing. None. There's literally 0 games on the schedule I can look ahead to & confidently proclaim we'll cruise to victory. And we have no idea how Haskins will perform in his first start, so that alone could prove problematic, or at the very least give the Redskins a spark to play with some extra effort.

I don't know if it felt this way at the stadium, but watching on TV it sounded like there were just as many, if not more, Eagles fans there than Bills fans. Every time Allen did something bad, huge cheers. When we were facing a 3rd down, the stadium would get really loud as if trying to pump up the Eagle defense/throw off the Bills offense. And after the Eagles would score, the crowd would get louder instead of quiet. It was pretty surprising considering how well we've turned out for home games this year.