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If you guys can't see what Beane is building, then there's no use in trying to explain it. Mentioning the dead cap for the 2018 season shows a clear lack of foresight and you can't teach a goldfish to look into the future.

Shut up, Reilly.

How about the fact that nobody got injured? That's arguably the most important thing in pre-season.

As I alluded to in the original post, I think this is the only real debate here. Does putting a QB behind this O-Line with this WR group help or hurt him? I'm of the opinion that bad habits can be created by having bad football around you. QB confidence is also a real thing... I think at this point I feel more comfortable letting Allen sit while we figure out all the other issues with our team and come week 6 or later, when we have an identity, we let him go in there and sling it.

I think this is an interesting debate... Initially I would have said yes, but now I'm leaning toward no... and that doesn't necessarily have to do with Josh Allen himself. The underlying questions really are: "Can you ruin a QB by starting him on a bad team?" "Is experience the most important thing for his development at this point?"

There is only one reason you make this signing: Jon Ryan is a top 5-10 punter with a lot left in his leg. Schmidt has been playing well and getting better, is a great teammate, and is signed cheap. The Bills obviously see an opportunity to get a top guy with Ryan. I have a feeling Schmidt is going to get cut.

It's fine if you don't like Schopp... I don't like him either. I also love Josh Allen. But Josh Allen did not have a good handful of seasons at Wyoming. He didn't even make 1st team or 2nd team All Mountain West Conference at QB. All counting stats, Allen wasn't very good ... and his coach was the guy that coached Carson Wentz to a pretty dominant college career in a similarly bad conference. The reason the Bills drafted him and some of us liked him is during the draft process and combine he got a lot better and showed improvement in mechanics ... and showed himself to be very coachable. Plus the obvious physical tools. If people strictly looked at his college career, he would be a 2nd round pick or later, at best. So ... Schopp is right in this case. There's a reason people were so angry when we drafted Allen, despite how high his ceiling is.

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Hey ... buddy .... speaking of stopping while you're behind. Please stop while you're behind. Pretty much everyone disagrees with you and it's time to stop. Just stop.

For your own good mate, time to give up on this thread.

If he doesn't have an absolutely massive week, he will be cut by the following Sunday. The fact that he couldn't track an easy deep ball in that last game is a big problem.

? I never actually thought of something like this before. Do any of you know if teams have done something like this in the past? Kinda like a Hail Mary play I suppose. ... the defenders would just bat the ball down buddy. yikes...

This thread is an embarrassment.

I'm convinced that these guys dont even watch the games. Here's a great example: Tyrod Taylor PERFECT in preseason debut - I watched this game ... on the first drive after a big pass the Browns ran for 1 yard on first down, Tyrod checked down for 2 yards on 2nd down, then he ran for 4 yards on 3rd down. How is that "perfect" .... Meanwhile (same website): Josh Allen lukewarm in BUF preseason debut - this says he "missed wildly and displayed poor timing and footwork on a few occasions." Did he miss wildly on a few occasions? Most of the throws seemed to be right there.

You might not have heard, but he's 20 years old. Also Nick O'Leary is the nephew of Jack Nicklaus.

So... we replaced two pro-bowl O-linemen with scrubs and a somewhat average QB with a backup and left basically everything else the same... And everybody thinks we got better... is this a joke?

When your team is a disgrace for 20 years, you need to find other ways to get excited. When the Brady Billdo got thrown on the field it was the most exciting pass I've seen since the 90s.

I would offer a 2020 1st round pick, but not a 2019 first round pick. This is an unpopular opinion ...but I can easily see us picking in the top 5-10 next year. Surprised you guys overwhelmingly said yes.

"stop having fun, it's embarrassing"

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Board/105323/Contents/Corey-Coleman-traded-to-Buffalo-120415798/ http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/50613-cory-coleman-traded/ https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/8/5/17654574/breaking-cleveland-browns-trading-wr-corey-coleman-to-buffalo-bills (comments) Whenever the Bills make a big trade/pickup, I like to see what the other team's fans think. Interesting stuff in here ... generally, they seem to think a 7th wasn't enough.

I think we can officially close this thread. You guys are trying to talk sense into someone who isn't interested in reality. Just close it and move on.

The only way we make the playoffs is if Josh Allen has a huge year. And he's going to have to do a lot considering the O-Line and WR group we've got this year. Our defense is decent, but you need a top 3 group to compensate for the garbage we're going to show on Offense.

This is a really bad hypothesis. Shady is a great pass catcher and would only improve a pass-first offense. If you're looking for a silver lining, it's that Shady only has 2 years left on his contract with minimal hit next year if we cut him: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/lesean-mccoy-5916/

This just in: Josh Allen didn't have good college stats. HOT TAKE ALERT ?