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so wouldn't that say that there is no agreement in place...?

Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen in that order. I'd be happy with any, and if the Browns take Allen at 1 and Giants take Barkley, it's entirely plausible that one Mayfield or Rosen makes it to 12.

I don't think it works like that in the NFL... if there was a 7 game series, sure, they'd probably win. When the playoffs and Superbowl are one and done, the best team doesn't always win. Even if they were 80/20 favorites in two playoff games and the superbowl, they'd only be coin-flips to win it all.

I'm still suffering flashbacks to the last Saint we had here...

Kyle Orton, and it's not even close.

Sign Gaines with the contract savings between McCarron and Taylor.

McCarron + 65th pick + 6-7 million dollars more in cap space to surround the rookie with talent is a far better "Bridge QB" scenario than what we had a week ago. I honestly believe that Tyrod will be a good stabilizing factor for Cleveland, but I like our chances of becoming more than just an annual Wild Card contender more today than I did last week.

Pugh would be a nice upgrade, but I don't know the cost. I'd move him back inside to Guard.

Clay and Benjamin produced at high levels in the past. Streator was productive in Oakland. I honestly think our WR/TE core isn't as weak as many believe, and I'm confident with a QB change and offensive change, each is capable of producing at a much higher level than what we've seen of late. I think we will see a significant offensive improvement if we can bolster our line now that we've made a QB change.

What if Cleveland traded up from four to the giants number two? Cleveland could then take Barkley and the quarterback of their choice to sit behind Tyrod. The Giants could still take Nelson at four or trade back further for another team to get Qb 3 and probably pick up a pair of clevelands 2nd and 3rds.

They don't need to trade him either.. He has significant value to the organization, and his contract isn't killer. He and Wentz combined make less than 1/2 of the starting QBs in the league.

Tyrod will be a good fit for Cleveland. He provides stability at the position and doesn't turn the ball over, by all accounts he's a good clubhouse guy, and his elusiveness can help mask line issues. His limitations would prevent us to get to the next level... but for a team that has won only one game in the last last two seasons, he makes perfect sense as a bridge while they develop a rookie this year.

I just renewed and I’m further away than Utica.

What did we give up to move up? To move from up over 10 spots in the first, we didn't give up either 2nd?

If we're imagining fairytale scenarios... why not trade both 1sts and Tyrod Taylor for Cleveland's #4. Cleveland can take Barkely #1, get a QB upgrade and have picks 21 and 22, while we get chance at a franchise QB.

In Bill's defense - he did have Kelly Holcomb as a backup to Manning at the time. If only Kelly would have gotten a chance to start like Brady did.... oh wait.

If the Jets did $60 million in year one - does that screw over the rest of the league in regards to the franchise tag for a QB next season?

There's a difference between Jim Kelly and Josh Rosen for those that seem to equate the two after Rosen shunned going to Cleveland. Jim had a passion for the game and the talent. The area and the fans can win him over eventually, but he doesn't have the passion and desire to be the very best there are way too many opportunities for long term failure.

I'd argue that the insurance of a starting caliber QB until Wentz returns is greater than the difference between a 2018 vs 2019 draft pick for a team that is already championship caliber.... especially when Wentz and Foles are on cheap contracts next year, making less combined than many starting QBs in the league.

The Eagels should hold Foles until the trade deadline next year after someone else has lost their starter. He'll be as valuable then and they'll have a better grasp on Wentz recovery. They're already championship caliber, and an extra late second or early 3rd round pick isn't going to make them better in a "win now mode" nearly as much as an established backup with a starting QB coming off injury.

Mine in 102 went up $20/seat (just over 3%).

That's the beauty of the deep pass - and other teams do it too. There's little to lose doing that late in a half. Best case: reception of PI. Worst case it's a 50 yard punt. I'm sure the plan was to send Cooks along the sideline and throw the ball inside so he'd have to go through the defender to get it. If the defender is staying stride for stride with Cooks, and doesnt get a clear read on the ball, he's trapped.

In NE's 2 losses, Gronk was held to an average of 58 yards and 0 TDs (meeting my defensive requirement). In his other 12 games he average 80 yards and 0.66 TDS. (not meeting my defensive requirement). I'm not sure what you're trying to debate. I'm not asking for Gronk to have more exposure to impress me with fantasy stats. I'm asking our defense to come up with a way to slow him down when they "stop ignoring him".

I'm not sure what this means... If the Patriots need to go to Gronk, it would be nice to have a method to limit his effectiveness. I'll also make sure to put together a log of my football viewing hours so that I may have the ability to sit at message board table with someone so knowledgeable.

I think a dominate line on both sides, and an NFL "average" QB wins the division. Andrew Luck has proven that a franchise QB without a line isn't enough to contend. Also someone to hold Gronkowski to a mere 75 yards and 0.5 TDs per game vs. us would be nice.