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It wouldn't have made that much of a difference IMHO. Bills could have hiked the ball and dropped back to run a bunch of time off and then just chucked the ball out of bounds stopping the clock on an incomplete pass so the time on the clock would have been less and left no time or mere couple seconds on the clock. I don't think its that big of a deal, although in hindsight, had Harbaugh done that it does maybe increase the miracle chances a fraction of a percent, but it really likely doesn't impact the game. The bigger story is how many times they lose big leads in the 4th like this. KC had all 3 timeouts, not the same thing. They through 2 straight passes right up the seem because they could go anywhere and call timeout.

Happy birthday SDS!!!!!

Which is totally fine - but what Josh said is also totally fine. Reality is that if the Bills were up or game was tied 30% of the stadium wouldn’t have left. All he is saying is the game was still winnable, have a little more faith next time. 30% of the stadium just missed out on one of the biggest comebacks and moments in the stadium history and in prime time of the home opener of the last year in the stadium. If there was ever a night to stay a little longer that was it — but people left cuz they didn’t Bill-ieve and all he said was have a little more faith next time. He didn’t throw anyone under the bus, just pointed out had people had a little more faith they would have witnessed greatness. You compared it earlier to that deuche canoe Watkins, and Josh’s comments were no where that realm is really all I was saying. Im cool with people if they left, everyone has there own reasons and circumstances…I’m just defending Josh and his comments as not being inflammatory like that loser Watkins.

Those boards compared to this one is like comparing the computing power of a Commodore 64 with a Macbook Pro today lol

We are currently in a great position right now for the #1 seed. We essentially have a 2 game lead on Balt because we now have the tie breaker. So if Ravens beat KC, we will be 2 games up on both -- who still should be our biggest threats to the 1 seed. So now the Bills just need to handle their business and win all these games we are supposed to win. If we do that, we will have the 1 seed locked up by week 15.

Yeah I am not a fan of it, but if we do call it, at least do it on an early down. Its so much worse on a critical 3rd or 4th down.

No disrespect - but hard disagree here. Josh didn't throw anyone under the bus, and quite honestly Fitzpatrick said it perfectly.

Totally agree, spot on! And Allen and this offense have never executed that fade well to begin with, I would understand it more if we converted it at a high rate, but we don't, its the opposite. I hate that play every time the call it, and they even used to call it a lot with Diggs who wasn't even a big target. We also went from a great down and short team to a total trainwreck in down and short. I feel like because the Bills were so vocal and against the tush push they have decided they can't run it anymore and bastardized it in the AFCCG (worst version of it I have ever seen and nothing like we had been running it a high success rate previously) and we have even further gone away from it this year already. So much so, on the goal line Allen had to over the top and put the ball at risk to get the TD. The biggest offensive issue we had on Sunday was our many bad calls on 3rd and short and our 2 PT tries. Its mind blowing how often they take away all of Allens strengths in these situations with bad play calls or poorly designed plays like our bastardized QB sneak now that went from a never fail attempt to now never works.

On the 2 point try, Allen threw a bad ball on what was already a bad play call that neutralizes Allens super power which is Allens legs, play extension, and power. But the throw was poor, and Allen knew it and wanted that throw back. The whole point to throw that ball is that Keon has size advantage and strength advantage. But Allen did not throw the ball to where those things factored in -- instead he threw a liner right to the midsection where a very handsy Wiggins was there to disrupt the play. Where Allen put the ball took it from a play where we can have the advantage and positive odds to convert and made it a low percentage conversion attempt. That ball needs to be high and over the top or high and to the outside of Keon to where he use his size to box out the defender and can go get the ball, not a low trajectory shot to the meat of a smaller defender in Keons mid section. Poorly executed by Allen - uncalled PI by Wiggins - and terrible play call by Brady. There was a lot wrong with that play not related to Keon. In fact, you could use the film on this play to show exactly how not to execute it. But even with the poor throw, it was still a way worse decision. Any play where you have Allen just throwing off the snap to a locked on target you are adding too much variance where its conversion is entirely dependent on too many variables while taking away all the things Allen does best. And as much as I love Allen, this exact type of play has been one we have always poorly executed.

My wife handed me my 11 month old son after his bath and that is when the late run began. So I didn't put him down even after he went from happy to fussy and wanted to get to the floor to play with his brother. He still had sit on dads lap hahaha, he was my good luck charm. I also changed my Bills hat to a different one to start the 4th quarter. You're welcome.

Respectfully disagree. Imagine if the Bills were in that same spot on 4th and 3 and we were about to punt to Mahomes with a minute and a half left only needing a FG. This board would lose its mind when Mahomes inevitably wins the game on a FG. The Ravens defense was getting carved up by Allen all 4th quarter, you have to play the situation. You have Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. That is so hard to defend, and they were gashing us all game on the ground. You easily fake the handoff to Henry let Lamar roll out and either make a quick dump off or just run for the first. That had a better chance to succeed than punting the ball back to the MVP who was on fire with over a minute left needing only a FG. If I am going down, I am doing it with the ball in my best players hands not on the backs of a defense getting gashed an entire quarter. Just my 2 cents.

Maybe I am mixing up the play, its possible, yesterday was a roller coaster but I thought that was to Shakir. Still do, but I am open to being mistaken about that of course. No disrespect, and we are all entitled to our opinions, but this is an over exaggeration of our WR room IMHO. One, Coleman played at a higher level than WR3 yesterday, and was a WR1 type player for us and made big plays when we needed them. Doesn't make him a WR1 yet, still lots to prove over the season, but you don't even have him to be a WR2 which is wild considering he is a starting WR and the WR1 for a SB favorite right now. But also, this is a pretty disrespectful description of Shakir too because I think you are greatly over looking how many massive and critical plays Shakir made for this team the last 2 years and he has clearly established himself as Josh's most trusted and go to weapon in key moments. And Shakir made more of those plays yesterday too. I know we don't have a Chase or Jefferson on this team, but I feel like some of you overly discredit the guys we do have because or your desire for someone you view as elite.

This was the most yards by a Buffalo WR since... ... ... ...Keon last year in week 7. I will give you that he was pretty bad after the injury, but before the injury, the previous 5 full games after his 1st quarter benching for being late in week 3, he was on an 1100 yard season pace. He had started coming on and building more momentum including a 125 yard game in week 7. So he wasn't awful the whole year last year even though he was pretty bad after injury. Still this is one game, he didn't cement anything yesterday either. But this is a great start and looks a lot more like the guy we saw those 5 weeks before the injury who has taken another step forward.

For those saying he was crap for 3 quarters because of his yardage total - well watch the game again. He was open and didn't get the ball several times during those 3 quarters and also our play calling was crap through 3 quarters as well. For example - 3rd and goal, Allen had Keon on the left for 6 when he beat his guy off his cut. Allen threw short to his left instead and didn't see Keon and we settled for a FG. Our offense didn't find a rhythm until the 4th quarter, and there were a lot of terrible 2nd and 3rd down calls that killed drives, caused 3 and outs, etc.

I like Benford a lot, but I think you wee see he easily should have had 3 or 4 flags thrown on him last night. But, that being said, some of those plays still resulted in a positive outcome like the Hopkins TD for the Ravens. There were bigger missed PI calls on the Ravens that killed drives for us. End of the day though, both teams got away with a lot of PI non-calls though

Haha she is a psycho

There were a lot of missed calls by the refs tonight, especially PI, but it was on both sides of the ball. Ravens got a away with a lot of PI throughout the game -- but also so did we, Benford for example should have been called for PI/Holding several times, including a big 3rd down stop where the ball was over thrown but the replay shows Benford was holding the WR by the horse collar most the route which was prob why the ball was over thrown. Even on the Hopkins TD he was holding Hopkins left arm for like 5 yards on that catch. But, like I said, refs some important PI calls on both sides, so it balanced out, although I do think that some of the PI calls they missed on the Ravens hurt us more as they were on some pretty important downs that led to drives ending.

Wait for real? The same lady? Was that confirmed because last I saw she had not been correctly identified yet? Did they finally figure out the correct person? I know there were several people misidentified as her along the way.

A big part of that was the way Brady was calling the game. Way too many behind the LOS and short throws - and not because they were dump offs, they were immediate quick strike play calls. Our biggest issue offensively this game had a lot to do with how Brady was calling the game. But credit to him as they eventually adjusted and things got a lot better. Guys made plenty of individual plays, and the one by Shakir you’re mentioning wasn’t a drop. Allen threw the ball directly to Kyle Hamilton leading Shakir -- and maybe the best safety in the game hit Shakir and hit him early on what should have been PI. To call that a drop by Shakir is wild to me. Coleman didn’t step out of bounds he was shoved out of bounds trying to adjust for Allen while he was escaping pressure. And on the next 2 point try, not only was their PI by Wiggins, but that was a bad throw by Allen and one I assure you Allen wants back. Coleman is covered by Wiggins on a fade route and has a huge size advantage over Wiggins, the entire reason they went to Keon on that try. But Allen threw a flat bullet right at his midsection where Wiggins was able to disrupt the play instead of putting the ball (like he was supposed to) where Keon can use his size advantage and grab the ball. Allen was upset with himself after that 2 pt attempt even. More importantly, it was a terrible play call, even the announcers said it -- why throw the fade there and take away Allens super powers of having his legs and size as an additional way to convert. To just snap and chuck a fade is a coin flip type play, just a terrible call on such an important 2 point conversion attempt. No disrespect, but how can you say this when Palmer showed it multiple times including some key routes and catches during our come back? That being said, on the INT that got overturned for hitting the ground, I have no idea WTF Palmer was doing on that play, he made no effort on the ball to even prevent the INT attempt or catch and didn't react until he thought the ball was picked off. That looked like he had a total mental lapse on that play and not sure if that was some confusion or miscue between him and Josh or what. But I was pissed at Palmer on that play for sure. I think the chemistry is going to continue to grow, and Coleman was getting open earlier in the game too, including on 3rd and goal where Allen could have hit him for 6 but threw it elsewhere and we had to settle for a FG. I think it just took a while for the offense to settle and Brady to adjust in this game.

Haha holy sh*t that lady was nuts. The footage of her getting heckled and booed out of the stadium were priceless

Lamar was way in the right here. That fan should be banned for life at this and the new stadium. Unacceptable, same fan hit Hopkins too before Lamar which is part of why Lamar responded after he hit him too. And what ever a**hole threw the water bottle at Derrick Henry on his last TD run as he entered the end zone needs to be banned from both stadiums for life too. Bunch of idiots acting like this is Philly

Lamar was incredible tonight. Allen is IMHO better, but let’s not pretend Lamar doesn’t have an argument for himself either. But - Lamar (not tonight) has played below his standards in multiple playoff losses where Allen is the best ever in several playoff passing categories. So Allen earned his edge over Lamar, but tonight had nothing to do with it, Lamar was excellent.

D E S T I N Y It’s our time. I told yall—-it’s our time. Last year in stadium, reigning MVP, Josh married, Marv turned 100, etc etc. Destiny. It’s coming.

Allen had Keon for 6 on that 3rd down play

So we still cant stop the run. Cool. At least we got that out of the way early so we don't have to waste time thinking we can.