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I can edit it, it was just poking fun at the trade that happened but yet never happened lol. I will edit though out of respect of your request - Cheers

AB, after fleeing to Dubai, for what I assume is for their Chocolate when no charges were filed after the incident after the boxing match, was arrested by US marshals who brought him back to NJ and is now headed to FL to face attempted murder charges.

Ive watched him run wide open this year and not get the ball, like I have seem Moore do too. Diggs - on pace for 1400+ season, Brady takes over and his YPC dips below 10 and he puts up less yards than Shakir despite double the targets the final 7 games. MVS - Deep ball guy Brady didn't use. Goes to NO and starts catching bombs immediately after we cut him during the season. Harty - was Shaheed type role in NO before Shaheed. We didn't use him at all and was like he wasn't even on the roster. Samuel - 776 yards per year average over 5 seasons on 2 teams, but he is a ghost in Brady's offense. Moore - 4.35 speed guy who has been able to produce with atrocious QB's but barely sees any productivity here. At some point, when is it more the OC's offense than the player? And quite frankly, I have seen Samuel and Moore getting open and not getting the targets this year. So to send 3 picks as you suggested (2 4ths and a 5th) for another gadget guy when Brady hasn't used the 5 downfield threat guys we have had on our roster since he took over mid season 2023 makes no sense at all. Like I said, I would have been fine if Shaheed became the next fast gadget WR we don't use enough, but I would have been furious if we wasted 3 draft picks to do it.

Yeah, he wishes they threw him the ball when he keeps getting open, but we don't. Samuel: Before Buffalo, he played 7 seasons between Carolina and Wash. His rookie year he was a bench guy and wasn't used much. His first in Washington he got hurt and barely played. The other 5 seasons Samuel averaged 776 total yards per season (some were in 16 game seasons). Shaheed has never had a single season even achieving Samuels 5 year average. His best season he put up 756 yards (and that was in a 17 game season). Just because Buffalo is not using him does not mean he can't produce. But you are right though, I would bet he does wish Buffalo used him so he could average at least that, and it would still be his lowest averages of his career still.

I have been saying for weeks they need to identify one of Samuel or Moore (preferrably Moore) to focus on getting involved as a receiving threat. He has the speed and downfield ability, they need to use at least one of them more than they do now, and splitting time between the 2 is not how Allen and them will build chemistry and timing. So push one more, and I think it should be Moore, and we need to start making an effort to prioritize getting him involved as a receiver and further down field instead of all the short stuff they do with both of them. Another thing is Allen needs to have better pocket presence than he had during some of the rough patches too so he can see and take the opportunities that are there. For example in addition to the one you showed, Samuel was also wide open on the final pass in the NE loss where Allen dropped back into what would have been a clean pocket, and had he stood in the pocket he has Samuel for an easy TD or at least near TD. Instead, he gets happy feet despite one of the cleanest pockets of the night and bails and ends up making a scramble drill throw to Shakir that falls incomplete. Now, there was blatant PI against Shakir that wasn't called, so it should have been a first down still, but the point is, Samuel was open deep for an easy throw but Allen just missed the opportunity. I love Allen as much or more than most people, but there have been stretches this year where we have left a lot out on the field with guys open down field. Every time Allen doesn't throw down field or scrambles for time, the first assumption is "no one was open" but when you go back and look at the film, you will see plenty of downfield opportunities that were not seen or not taken that were there. Part of the problem though IS Brady in that regard. I don't know how many press conferences and interviews other people watch, but I watch almost all of them. And if you listen to Brady, Allen, other guys on the offense, etc you will hear that a big part of this offense is running clear outs to scheme certain guys open on a specific play and then if that read isn't there they move to the check downs. This keeps Allen IMHO from seeing things in other parts of the field, because they are not part of his initial progressions and then looks to either extend the play in scramble drill, run, or take a check down. I still want to get a legit WR1 on the outside, dont get me wrong. But there are quite a bit more opportunities than people believe out there in downfield passing game than we are actually taking. Brady clearly without question came in and knew that Allens weakest part of his game was the deep ball accuracy, and he wasn't wrong. He too often either puts the ball in a place that prevents advancing it when the runner has a clear path for a big gain or score, or he misses on the throw or commits a turnover. And Brady isn't wrong - BUT - IMHO, he also OVER corrected. Rather than reducing the reliance on that, he has more taken it out almost entirely. And the numbers don't lie, its been the best offense in Bills history statistically and consistently amongst the top 3 in the NFL. However, this year, he has also seen teams defend what we do better and he struggled with adjustments and countering that. The past 2 weeks have been encouraging though, so hopefully that bye week helped him realize where he needed to be better so Allen and the offense could be better. KC was also Allens best game of the season too, so hopefully we keep building on that rest of the season and be clicking come playoff time.

Haha well played - this was funny, and yet while a fun joke its also quite plausible given the expected strength of the DL class. Only way its a DB though is if there is a Safety there sticking out when we are on the clock. And if WR isn't the first pick, we can still land a WR in rounds 2 or 3, looking around the NFL many of the best WR's in the NFL were not first round picks anyway. So if we did go another direction in the first, I would think based on Beane's intentions this trade deadline that WR would still be an early pick. Outside the draft, one guy I am going to have my eye on this offseason is if DJ Moore is gettable.

2 4ths and a 5th for a guy who has just 2 games in his nearly 4 year career over 100 yards? A guy who is best out of the slot, same position our best WR plays? A guy who is one dimensional in a style that our OC doesn't incorporate much? A guy whose best trait is to catch the kind of passes that are our QB's worst throw? Come on - I would have been fine adding Shaheed, but I would have broke something if we gave 2 4ths and a 5th for a guy who is gonna likely average 400-500 yards per season here.

This is pretty spot on, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Well done

Nah, they just went and got Sauce because he was an upgrade at CB that they needed on a roster competing for the 1 seed.

I think we can say Dallas really did themselves right with the Micah trade and came out on top here already. They traded a one dimensional pass rusher, who at Dallas's peak still wasn't winning with him when they had the #5 defense and #1 offense in the league. They avoided paying him a cap choking $48M (more than most QB's make) per year which would further deteriorate their already not good enough roster due to cap restrictions over time. What they turned Micah into was a multiple pro bowl DT - Kenny Clark, one of the best DT's in football in his prime Quinnen Williams, an extra 1st round pick, and the cap space to keep Pickens - not to mention more cap flexibility to make more moves. Micah Parsons vs 1st round pick, 2 Pro Bowl DT's, Pickens, and cap flexibility. I think its pretty hard to argue against the fact that Dallas did pretty well in the Micah trade. Does it mean Cowboys go on to win a SB, no, they are still the Cowboys and still have other issues. Only one team can win, and they are not that "one" team yet. But, its still a better place for them to be than with Micah and his contract. Meanwhile, Packers are not any better with Micah - and don't really look good enough to likely win their division let alone a Super Bowl. They lost/tied three bad teams in the last 5 games, created a hole at DT, have a $48M cap choking contract restricting their ability to build in FA, and also gave up 2 first round picks reducing their ability to build more talent through the draft. Its still Dallas, I am sure they still wont be going anywhere, but none the less they are in a better position from trading Micah than they would have been keeping him.

Agreed, and honestly I would prefer Gabe Davis to Shaheed who at least also brings elite blocking to a team who very much is designed to utilize that both in the quick passing game and the run game. Plus IMO Gabe is the more accomplished WR with a better deep game and rapport with Allen and cost us nothing to add to the roster. I dont love Gabe as a WR1 or WR2, but as a guy mixing in with this group, he still has a chance to bring value to the team if his knee stuff is behind him.

Also agree with all this too. I was a big fan of Brady the first season and a half, but I have been more critical of him this season as I think he has too often not made the right adjustments or just called bizarre plays in key situations. The offense has been better, but we still need to utilize the guys on the roster better. I loved what I saw against KC with finally using the TE's in a more attacking manner. But we still need to get more use out of the speed Samuel and Moore can bring, and I think the need to pick one and focus on getting them involved. Then they are completely using Keon wrong, he either Mack Hollins 2.0 blocking decoy or they are sending him too often on routes he isn't going to win enough on. Move him around, get him going using the crossers, slants, and comebacks he has shown he can win on. Enough back shoulder throws down the sideline while he is blanketed. Excellent post. This should be pinned in any thread talking about the lore of Shaheed. Its crazy how some people have inflated what he is and has been around here, and more importantly what they think he would be here.

This is exactly what I have been saying during all the "go trade for Shaheed" stuff this season. We have already seen this OC not use MVS or Harty last year in that stretch the defense role when they in fact filled similar roles to Shaheed in NO and that was what the point of them being here was supposed to be. This year we have Samuel (4.31 forty) and Moore (4.35 forty) not have their speed used much to open up down field again. I think one of the biggest changes Brady brought to the offense was his realization that the deep ball shots are not Allens strong suit. He wasn't wrong, but I also think he has a bit over corrected here too by taking it almost completely out. But none the less, I think a gadget type one dimensional WR was less on their radar as that one thing isn't really what Allen excels at, they wanted a legit WR1 who can be a threat deep but also be a playmaker all over the field. Despite some of the heat some are giving Beane, I don't really think there is much to criticize Beane on here as all the buzz was that he was active on trying to get one, but it takes 2 to tango. The only really big ticket that got traded that was at a position we really needed the help at was Quinnen, but many reports have come out that AFCE teams were told they were not interested on trading within the division. Which is a pretty easy thing to assume and believe too, especially Bills and NE who seem set still a long time to be tough with the QB situations locked down. The best thing that came out of this trade deadline was all the stuff coming out about Beane being actively calling on legit WR1 type options. Gives me hope that this offseason and draft it will be a top priority and hopefully we see them either land one in FA/Trade (no idea who is going to be available) or aggressive in getting one in the draft, including moving up to do so.

I don’t think anyone thinks Shavers is the answer. The point is BOTH Samuel and Moore are as fast or faster than Shaheed and we are NOT using them in that way. Neither was MVS or Harty last year, 2 guys that were doing what Shaheed was doing for the Saints before him we did not use in the same way here. So what WR trade happened that we missed out on? None of the WRs that actually gave us something we lacked happened. Olave, Wilson, Waddle, AJ, and BTJ all didn’t get traded.

I dont think he is faster than Shaheed, but I think Simons point with Shavers is that he has speed to be used as a downfield guy and we don't even try, just like we are not really trying with Samuel or Moore (who as faster or faster), just like we didn't really try with MVS or Harty last year (also 2 guys as fast or faster who were productive deep weapons while in NO just like Shaheed, but not here)

What did MVS do in Buffalo? Nothing, and few shots we took to a wide open MVS for what should be an easy score, Allen missed him by a mile (because he is not a good home run ball deep shot QB). So we cut MVS and he immediately goes to NO and does what Shaheed did for NO this year. What did Harty do in Buffalo last year? Nothing, yet in NO he was the Shaheed player for them before ending up here. Both of those guys were on the Bills last year too in this offense, and neither were used despite the same speed. Samuel is faster than Shaheed and Moore is at least as fast, might be faster with his 4.35 forty time (Samuel is 4.31). We have seen both use that speed deep on other teams before Bills. Neither is being used in Buffalo for deep speed. What do all 4 of those guys have in common? They are as fast or faster than Shaheed and have never been used much at all for their speed deep since being in Buffalo in the Brady designed offense. Shaheed was never going to be any different, never made any sense, and was redundant to what we already have and dont use.

Come on Simon - you have to know there is no way the Jets consider this offer right? I would be all for that trade as a Bills fan of course - but think about it bud, why would the Jets looking to add draft capital and shed contracts to do a full rebuild take back a big contract instead of a 1st round pick (they got a 1st and 2nd from Cowboys)? Especially for a player like Oliver, who has been inconsistent, hurt too much, and has several years left on his big contract. Jets want that first rounder, not a DT out for the season owed a lot of money for several more years.

Samuel runs a 4.31 forty, faster than his rumored to be 4.35 - 4.45 40 time. Elijah 4.35 forty time. Shakir 4.43 forty time. So Samuel and Elijah are either faster or as fast. So again we HAVE the speed on this roster already, and we DONT use it. And Shakir is also pretty fast too. I ask you again, what did MVS and Harty do in NO that they did NOT do here? Oh hit the deep home run shots - why because Allen cant throw them (missed MVS twice on 100% TD shots by a mile before we cut MVS) well and Brady doesn't utilize it in his offense (Diggs was on pace for 2nd best season of his career before Brady took over and changed the offense making Diggs average 8 yards per catch rest of the season). Shaheed might very well compliment the Seattle offense quite well...because they take deep shots. But that doesn't mean he would have done any of that here, especially when we have 2 guys as fast or faster and do not at all use them in that capacity what so ever - a year after also have speedsters MVS and Harty who we also did not use in that capacity, and the few times we did, Allen missed he wide open throws deep.

We actually have more speed than he brings in Samuel and Moore. We just don't use them. Shakir has the same speed Shaheed has by the way. Shaheed never made any sense to me for a trade. I mean MVS was useless here and then went to Saints and caught some big deep ball plays. Why? Because Allen is not a very good deep ball thrower and this offense isn't built to try and make that a more common play. Make no mistake about it - we have the horses on this roster right now, and we had Harty last year too - another deep ball hitter for Saints but not here for the same reasons MVS, Samuel, and Moore arent either. All 4 of those guys (MVS, Samuel, Moore, and Harty) are faster than Shaheed too.

Im not gonna lose any sleep over Shaheed - we already don't use similar guys in Samuel or Moore and what we really need is an outside WR1. Unfortunately the best options available are likely not being moved or not likely to be moved to us in Olave, Wilson, and Waddle.

I get what you are saying, but despite all that Allen is still the MVP front runner right now on all betting platforms, which he wasn’t last week. And what you are missing is while he didn’t have the “run” against KC on 4th down…he utterly dominated KC and what was the MVP front runner in Mahomes this week. And like the “run” last year, that dominance over Mahomes and KC this week also lifted him into the betting favorite after the KC win. And last year, Allen got destroyed by Lamar and the Ravens in week 4 - who was the favorite before Allen took over the top spot after his run and beating KC. This year, Allen made an epic comeback against what was the only time Ravens were healthy week 1 and now also dominated Mahomes. When we play NE again, we will win by 2 scores IMHO. And when we lost, we didn’t lose because NE was that good, we literally beat ourselves. At that point we will have control of the division again and likely the 1 seed too. Allen is actually in a better position to win MVP right now than he was last year IMHO - assuming of course we keep rolling, which I believe we will.

I think he can, and has plenty of times before.

Don’t look now, but Allen’s stats are better than they were at this time last year in his MVP season…I honestly was surprised to see that. He has more yards and 3 more TDs with the same record.

Id say rewatch the Ravens game as what it looks like if we have to flip the switch. And I don’t think McD will let Brady leave Cook off the field for a drive like that again personally

This is why I said bring him in for a visit or check in on him. Obviously only sign him if he is healthy, but I think it is time to find out. I amended the poll to state the obvious though which is to say if healthy do we sign him. We could even add him to the PS similar to Gabe to get a better feel for him if he is close but not quite there.