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No disrespect my friend, but if you truly believe this then that in itself would be a complete and total failure by Allen on that fact alone. For the record, I don't think Allen thought that at all, but if he did then that is without question a critical failure by him. You are stating that Allen has no responsibility to check the pressure coming from what is probably the best and most clutch game wrecker in the league...And on a play where Allen knows: That is Chris Jones on the other side - again one of the best game wreckers of Allens era (and maybe the most clutch in big moments) Its one on one as he isn't being doubled We are taking a deep shot and by default Allen has to hold the ball a little longer We either score on this drive or KC ends our season again Sorry...what you just wrote here just doesn't make sense IMHO, nor is it something I suspect a coach would agree with, nor do I think Allen would. And as much as I love Dion, he isn't better than Chris Jones and isn't so good you can just completely ignore Chris Jones in a game on the line moment as a QB. And quite honestly, our lack of handling the defensive pressure is what ended our last 2 seasons.

No disrespect - but - He isn't trolling, you are just not correct in absolving Allen from any responsibility. You have made several incorrect statements in all your posts now. You incorrectly attributed blame to Shakir not getting to his spot fast enough making Allen hold the ball longer, which the film shows is 100% wrong. Shakir is a 4.45 WR with a free release in a 20 yard straight line sprint before he even encounters a defender and where the ball was already in the air before any defender even was near his route. He has literally ZERO impact on this play not succeeding. Futhermore, Shakir makes Reid bite on a move and ends up wide open for the would be TD exactly where the ball was headed had Allen not been hit. You have incorrectly described the rush from the D to be different than it was You seem to refuse to acknowledge the massive amount of time and space Allen had in the pocket outside the one exact spot he stood like a statue in. You dont want to seem to acknowledge that Allen bounced in place multiple times, even pump faked, before making the throw which on any one of those he could have bounced even a half step back or to the right and made the same throw, except this time clean, to Shakir. And you have refused to even accept that any OTHER result would have been acceptable such as sliding to the right and throwing to Diggs instead for an easy first down or even running to the right and either getting the first or making the 3rd down attempt shorter/easier. This obsession people have to accuse people of "trolling" just because they don't agree is over the top around here. Don't get me wrong, plenty of people do troll, but just because he doesn't agree with you on this play doesn't make him a troll. Dion lost a rep to one of the best pass rushers and clutch defenders of his era in Jones was the primary cause of the play. BUT - Allen didn't see/recognize that Dion was getting dominated and stood in place like a statue despite the time to make even a subtle adjustment to get a clean pass off to Shakir or simply make a different play if it wasn't there. He also shares some responsibility in the result of that play. Is attempting to hit a wide open Shakir for a TD a mistake? No. But it also doesn't mean its the ONLY choice either, and a case can be made it still leaves too much time on the clock for KC who always dog walks us with the game on the line. But IT IS absolutely a mistake if you can't actually complete the play due to pressure. So if he wasn't going to be able to avoid the pressure, then the correct decision then becomes move right and either hit Diggs for the sure first down or keep running if the lanes are there for either the first or a shorter 3rd down attempt. But like I said, the space and time were there for Allen to make a subtle adjustment to get that pass off clean, he just failed to recognize he needed to and the tape confirms that.

First off no one’s saying the throw to Shakir was wrong. Second, you chimed in on a post I made correcting someone else (and eventually you too) that Shakir had some fault he made in the play, which he very clearly did not. Ball was in the air before Shakir was ever even near a defender. Allen getting his foot stepped on is the reason it didn’t work. And that’s because Dion lost a rep to one of the best DE’s in football. BUT - Allen had space and room to do something about it too and didn’t. It’s right there on tape. So he has some responsibility in the result too even though the bulk of the impact came from Dion losing a rep to another elite player.

I didn’t move any goal posts and this is still inaccurate.

You clearly did not watch the clip I just posted. If you don't think Allen has opportunity to get a clean pass off he sees/feels how deep the pressure is from Dion then I don't know what to tell you. Allen had a ton of space to make a cleaner throw or buy time to find a different throw rather than stand there immobile and get stepped on. It's on both Dion and Allen. And once again, Shakir is running free in full sprint PRIOR to Allens throw. Nothing about what Shakir did prior to Allen making the pass slowed Allens throw down. If you simply watch the clips you can see this clear as day. Dion lost his rep...Allen stood still in the pocket...and the result was getting stepped on and short arming a game winning TD pass to a wide open WR in the endzone.

Again, no disrepsect, but that is still not accurate, you said Shakir got held up and it made Allen hold the ball a second too long. But Allen throws the pass before Shakir even encounter Reid or makes his cut. So again, no disrespect, but what you said is just not what happened. And the result was Shakir was right where the ball was headed and open in the endzone for the TD catch had it not been short armed because Dion lost his rep against Jones and Allen failed to see/feel the pressure to slide and make a clean slow. Shakir made a move on Reid, won his rep and cut on Reid, and was wide open for the go ahead and possible game winning TD. The entire failure of the play was on Dion and Allen, Shakir did his job on this play and that is a route you will take from your WR's 10 out 10 times.

No disrespect, but for this play, this is not remotely accurate, Shakir had not even encountered a defender before Allen made the throw. Shakir had a free release from 26 yard line and didn't encounter a defender until the 6 yard line when the ball was already in the air. Nothing at any point slowed Shakir or his route down prior to Allen putting the ball in the air..and had Allen not been stepped on the balls path was on the exact trajectory to hit Shakir exactly where he was open in the end zone. Nothing Shakir did or didn't do impacted how long Allen had to hold the ball. This play failed Jones won the rep vs Dion combined with Allen not recognizing it and sliding or stepping up to avoid and get a clean throw off. Shakir did his job. Play starts at 7:45 and then you can see the angle from behind Allen at 8:04.

Then who plays DE? What DE are you getting off the street for less that can be at least at Groots level? Much easier and cheaper to find a RB than it is DE's. This isnt about who to pay...its about who is playing in their spot if you don't pay them and what does that cost and what is the return on the investment. Not paying Groot and replacing him with a cheap FA is going to hurt more than not paying Cook and letting Ray Davis and Ty fill the duties.

This article/thread is a bit misleading as it isn't about anything he has been doing thus far. Its just an article about his potential as an UDFA based on his college history and player profile. By default, he has a shot as safety isn't really set yet in terms of the depth, but there are some guys ahead of him that they either like or paid like they feel will contribute. So I would say its a bit of an uphill battle still, but not unsurmountable if he shows out in camp. BUT - Until I start seeing his name come up as someone impressing or standing out, he will remain a long shot though because there are guys well ahead of him going into camp. If he does start to impress, then sure, there is room in the competition for him to make a case to make the roster, especially if he is also making an impression on ST.

Except this isn't what I exactly said now is it (and you know that). Its pretty funny you want to call receipts about 2 threads I was pretty spot on in just about everything I said, and by most peoples accounts. Ive been wrong on things, as has everyone here, just funny you pick 2 things where if you read the threads I was pretty spot on. It’s cute though that you are playing your usual games and twisting context to paint a different narratives which is your calling card. You on the other hand did spend plenty of time arguing Shakir can't catch and a lot of other nonsense your selective memory likes to gloss over. Shocker that again this is not exactly what you were really saying now is it. This is what you want people to believe you were saying when in reality you were slamming the offense, defending Dorsey after he was fired, even arguing Dorsey over Brady despite the results. And while there were people who thought some of these things here, most were negative or all doom and gloom about the offense going into last season. And as I said then, before a down of football was even played, that the predictable "spin" once the offense proved to be great still was going to be the classic "Its all Allen" or even give all the credit to Brady...which is verbatim what happened. However, myself and many others had said all offseason we were still going to be a top 5 offense, had potential to be the best offense of Allens career, addition by subtraction, and might be Allens best season and chance at MVP before a down of football was even played. But keep on doing what you do where you blur reality and truths to desperately try to never be wrong when a LOT of what you said the past 2 years are things you certainly don't want "receipts" called on. But you do you boo

Dont let Henry run 80 yard TD's would be a nice start

All good man, if you want to believe that so be it. I mean I have no dog in this race or crystal ball and I am not here to say he is for sure getting released. I am just sharing that NE is has been considering it, and its not about whether he can play football still or not. And as I said, it stems beyond just the video. We will see what happens...this is more of a near term consideration, so if he makes it to camp I am guessing he is likely safe barring doing something else stupid or just falling off a cliff on the field.

Actually it’s not. No disrespect…but…You just stating your opinion doesn’t make it BS. I’m not claiming he is getting released…but I’ve also heard there is real substance to this from people I trust. Doesn’t mean it’s imminent, but the Pats are looking at how to get back some of the guaranteed money if they do. There are already things not meshing well with the coaching staff that go beyond the boat and Vrabel isn’t thrilled with the situation right now. And Vrabel wields a big stick there right now. Can it be salvaged still…sure…but to outright say it’s BS and has no chance of happening is not accurate. If I was forced to choose between whether he is on the team week 1 or not, I would lean towards he probably is. But I also wouldn’t be confident enough in that to place a wager on it either and just rule out a release.

There is buzz the Pats might release Diggs, not just over the boat incident either…including things like questioning if he’s really all in there in NE. He better find a way to convince people in NE he is worth keeping around and fast because there is no way at 31, coming off an ACL, and then being released (if he is) that he will get anything close to what NE gave him which honestly was already a legit shock. He gets released then he better be ready to play on a cheap 1 year deal because that’s all he will get, if even that.

Absolutely. My wife asked me “How will you hide your b*ner if we meet Josh?” And I said “Who said anything about hiding it?”

My wife’s friend and her husband are, she is Hailee’s makeup artist. Hoping to meet them at the Golf Tournament he’s playing in Lake Tahoe in July that we are going to.

Do we have to just pick one? lol

He’s been pretty strict on what he puts in his body and he’s hyper focused on proving he’s not done after the injury. So I would just personally be a little surprised if he was a user rather than just a provider in this instance. Especially with camp here and the risks with drug testing as well. It’s not uncommon for athletes to bring “party favors” when they aren’t using them themselves. But who knows, maybe he does…just saying I’d be a little surprised

Yeah that was it...so bad, for some reason I thought he was on the team longer than that after it, but still should have been cut before he hit the showers lol

He gave the items to the girls, so doubt he was using them. But certainly warrants a drug test, but I would be surprised if he failed from what we know about Diggs personally.

The worst play I have ever personally witnessed was watching Trent run out of bounds on 4th down on our final drive of the game instead of trying to make a play happen. Most pathetic, gutless, unacceptable play I have ever seen live in a game. She should have been benched or cut before he hit the showers.

Lol...the dumbest part of this by Diggs is he knows there is a camera recording lol. That being said, not sure how anyone could discipline Diggs here. I haven't heard of Pink Coke before, but regardless of what it was or wasn't, not sure how anyone can prove it was if Diggs denies it and says it was something else. So I think the only person Diggs may be in the most trouble with is his boo Cardi B lol...although rumor is she was also on the boat, so maybe not lol

Thank you! The myth of Trent Edwards is wild to me. I remember that season when we started 4-0 and I started a thread stating if he doesn't play better we would miss the playoffs. I got flamed left and right because we were "4-0" - albeit we had just beat 4 of the worst teams in the NFL. Trent had 1 TD in each game...our Def/ST combined for more TD's over that 4 game span than Trent had himself. And we barely beat 2 of those really bad teams that year. He wasn't good, all he did was just not make mistakes while we beat the bottom feeding teams and let our defense/ST help carry us to wins. Soon as our defense and ST stopped scoring TD's we couldn't win a game with the president of Dakota Fannings fan club at the helm. He was never good. He showed some potential as a rookie, then created false hope when he wasn't doing a whole lot in a hot 4-0 start against bad teams where our D and ST were scoring an unsustainable amount of times, and then just went on to never improve from what he had been. And the injury myth still persists to this day for some as the reason he stunk

Bahahaha...post of the week Man, those were some dark days. When your teams most popular or clamored for football player is the back up QB no matter how bad they are, its a very dark era at QB. I mean we lived through times where people made cases for guys like Brohm, Cardale Jones, etc just because they had yet to get on the field in a real game and prove they were trash yet. Gross

On a positive note...I will say this...the notes coming out on Keon so far this offseason are very encouraging so far and raising the level of excitement and optimism around Keon IMHO. Earlier this offseason Josh was speaking publicly about how Keon has been in his ear all off season about how he can get better and be better for Josh. Then he shows up with 10 more pounds of muscle and reportedly looking faster than ever in his cuts and just faster overall. It's way too early to put too much stock into anything, good or bad, especially before pads go on. But we are at least hearing the things we want to hear about him thus far. But the one thing I maintained heading into the offseason is that Keon wants it...he wants to be great. And that for me is what I want to see in the young guys, that drive, commitment, extra gear to really push themselves in the offseason to come back and be a better version of themselves. And he has a lot of guys on this team that know what thats like and put that work in during their own careers, including his MVP QB and fellow WR Shakir more recently.