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I for one have no idea why anyone wants Mr. Glass, Tyler Eifert. Doesn’t matter how talented a player is, he can’t help you from the infirmary. This guy barely plays, hurt his whole career. Jesse James a much better option at TE. If you sign Tyler then we better sign James too cuz Tyler will get hurt. I also would love to sign Humphries. He would be the guy to replace Zay (who I don’t think should be on this team next year) and compliment Foster. Then either sign Tate or draft Metcalf (I prefer draft Metcalf). Our top 3 WR next year would either be Tate, Foster, Humphries (playing that Cooper Kupp type role role for us) or Metcalf, Foster, Humphries. Then add/keep a couple more depth guys (like McKenzie for ST) and we will have a nice core.

Yeah, if you have a modern version of Madden like this years or last years, there are some good tools to learn the schemes. Do the practice sessions because the tutorials will actually teach you the different coverages on defenses, how to attack them, how to recognize them, etc. same on offense as it goes through different blocking assignments, route trees, running lanes, where the play should go, how to attack different coverages with routes, etc. Sounds silly, but it’s actually quite a lot of quality info and in depth coverage. Then getting to practice and see all the player movement helps hammer it home.

The number 1 most important thing for any QB to develop is: Opportunity. Once Marrone decided to play Orton because he wanted a Vet, EJ lost his chance to be a young QB who will be afforded the opportunity to make mistakes and grow from it. He was thrown out there before he was ready and yetshowed some promise. Then despite being 2-2 he had his opportunity taken from him because Marrone wanted to start a bad vet. Funny, he stubbornly stuck with another bad bet in Jax too despite there being several upgrades available since him being there. By the time EJ got another opportunity two things happened. Rex got who had been the apple of his eye for several years, and that was Tyrod. EJ out played Tyrod that preseason yet still didn’t get the job. So now EJ still hasn’t gotten another opportunity, and confidence is surely being affected as well. But from this point on, he has NO ROOM for mistakes. He can’t make a mistake, review film, and improve anymore. Now he makes a mistake and doesn’t get to play anymore. So for me, what damaged him the most was the loss of the opportunity to go out and both make good and bad plays without losing his chance to keep playing. Doesn’t mean he would have ever gotten there, but I think there is definite reason to believe his development was significantly impacted negatively by losing his chance early to play and learn from the good and the bad plays.

It’s everything we already knew. His accuracy will absolutely go up, and I believe significantly, when we revamp the offense. Couple things this article and ones like it don’t factor in: 1. He was a multi-sport athlete in HS and never committed fully to football. Which is why he wasn’t really recruited. He didn’t start really learning the game until he was at a Jr. College and Wyoming. Not exactly the Harvard’s of studying football, so he hasn’t really had high quality coaching before the NFL. 2. Since finishing college, Josh has shown significant growth in short periods of time and done so multiple times now. In just short stint with Palmer he made substantial improvements that allowed him to wow people and move up draft boards. Since coming to Buffalo, he went from “needs to sit” a year very quickly into “we got to have him on the field”. He also got a lot better while he was out several weeks hurt. So he keeps showing that with better coaching he’s growing and improving. 3. Anyone analyzing his SEASON stats are completely missing the ability to see improvement. I would rather see his PFF stats from before he was hurt compared to his stats since returning from injury. That’s how you chart growth. I mean just go look at his accuracy throwing to Kelvin Benjamin early in the year compared to throwing to others, it’s drastcially worse to KB. So just one example of how his whole season stats together don’t paint an accurate picture of where he is right this moment. 4. It’s been said a million times, but Josh has had nothing to work with at Wyoming or Buffalo in terms of pass protection and talent at the skill positions around him. It’s really hard for a player to improve on accuracy when you’re always under duress and your receivers suck at getting open. Talent matters and he’s never been on a team with any around him. Steve Young stunk for the Bucs then was a top 5 QB all time for 49ers on loaded roster. And Allen reminds me a lot of Young in how he plays. 5. His work ethic, intelligence, competitiveness, leadership, and determination are all off the charts already to go along with all those physical gifts. Everyone knows there are things he must improve, just like any young QB. He has a lot of work to do still. However, I think there are a lot of reasons that I mostly stated above to be very optimistic in him developing into a true franchise QB and the cornerstone of this franchise for the next 15 years. I honestly believe we will win the division next year if we can add the right pieces around him this offseason. If not for a Clay drop and ST blunder, Josh would have been 6-2 as a starter going into NE game. And had he not gotten hurt, he probably wins the Hou game and would have been 7-2 going into that NE game. And that’s considering him being a rookie learning to read defenses, learning better throwing mechanics, the many drops he has had, poor protection, penalties on the OL, no run game, guys who can’t get open consistently on routes, guys who don’t win contested tight passes, etc. GO BILLS! There will be a changing of the guard in the AFCE next year and it will be us.

One there is no correlation, and that was different team, different owners, different coaches, different front office...and Desean was a different player.

2017 was seeing what they had before clearing out. You seem to be disconnected from the word “build”

And the immediate spin in media and fans would be "He is gone, otherwise he would have just said he was in the plans". Then it would have led to more questions and wouldnt go away.

All of those were into the season already. Those were adjustments as they got to know the roster. Those were players being jettisoned, not adding building blocks to the future. This offseason was the real start to the rebuild where they had cleared out a lot of those players and started rebuilding. So I still see this as the first year of the rebuild. Year one they mostly inherited those guys outside the draft and they were sorting who wasnt part of the future. And while I get the remorse of Mahomes and Watson given they are further along (but also have more than double the time and experience in the NFL than Allen) I am personally sitting here with a lot of confidence in Allens future. I think his future is as bright as anyones in the NFL at this point, so I am not sweating the trade down...YET. If Allen doesn't get there then yeah, that trade down is gonna be a big mistake. But if Allen does get there, then I will be thrilled to have gotten both Tre and Allen through that process that also contributed to getting Edmunds too. No disrespect, you can disagree with it all you want...but it was widely reported and also confirmed by McD and Beane that going into the 3rd preseason game, the plan was to start Allen week 1. And they didn't have a lot to do in regards to the OL, we had a lot of cap issues this year to make room next year. And we had some young guys they expected to play better than they did on the OL bases on what they showed previously. Im quite happy at this stage with McBeane personally. I get you are not, and its fair to be skeptical and share a different opinion. I am just one that sees a lot more positives than negatives in what they have done to set up us for next year.

One thing to keep in mind is that Allen and McCoy are close and McCoy is his biggest fan. And I think its pretty reasonable to think McCoy has the ability to play better behind a better OL and a more consistent passing game with better WR's. We dont need the cap space, he has 1 year left on his deal. There is no reason to cut him unless you think you are a better team without him on the roster. I think the more realistic scenario is that the Bills will draft or sign another RB and McCoy will go from being a bell cow RB to a more committee approach next year. And with that, I think McCoy certainly has value still as he is still fast and can catch. So I think its premature to think he is as good as gone...I dont think his roster spot is going to be in jeopardy until camp and preseason. If he is struggling and getting out played, then sure he will be a cut candidate.

Yes he did, he was asked about it and frequently asked about it. Refusing to answer it is almost like saying he is as good as gone. So the only way to keep it from being a distraction is to say you expect him back.

All kinds of praise coming from people currently or previously in the NFL...players, coaches, GM's. Quite a bit of positive press on the kid overall this season. Im sure there are still skeptics too, but hes gotten a lot of praise, especially since coming back from injury.

Bears paid market price, none of the WR's signed for more than was predicted for them.

Still disagree with all of this. All of this is over exaggerated, and nothing Ramsey said can be taken seriously, he says everyone is trash and Allen already shoved Ramseys foot into Ramseys mouth.

But this isn't correct. Why do people on the board keep throwing this false statement out there? It was widely reported and also confirmed by McD in a press conference that the "plan" going into the 3rd preseason game was to start ALLEN week 1. That was when there was 3 QBs still here. They had their hand forced a little bit when Allen and the offense got overwhelmed the 3rd game, but the intention was to start Allen NOT Peterman. So ultimately, they didn't start Peterman because they felt he was a good starter, they started Peterman to sit Allen a little longer to make sure he was ready and he was ALWAYS going to start at some point early in the season. But fans here keep spinning this as if McD decided Peterman was a franchise QB and turned the franchise over to him. And the only reason we kept him over AJM was because no one offered us an asset for Peterman, and the Raiders foolishly offered us a 5th and they took it considering they were going to cut one of the two anyway and NP outplayed AJM anyway in preseason. And no coach ever goes out on Sundays and tries to tank. McD is going to try and win every single game, no matter how good the roster is or isnt. They knew this was going to be a rebuilding season, and both Beane and McD said that. And our teams biggest struggles were mostly with NP and DA, so injuries contributed heavily to several of those really bad weeks. I respect your opinion, but I cant see how any can look at McD and Beane and think they look bad. They broke the 17 year drought with a below average roster. They got rid of bad contracts or players who didn't fit the future plans. They drafted very well grabbing impactful starters in Tre and Milano, managed to grab 2 first round picks without giving up any future picks to land our QB and MLB to anchor both sides of the ball, and found value still in the draft after in guys like Taron and Phillips who look promising themselves. Not to mention guys like Levi and Gaines who show potential too. They found a gem in UDFA and other teams practice squad players. They weren't afraid to cut bait on a trade that didn't work and cut KB to make way for the younger players. And most importantly, Beane fixed the cap a year earlier than he projected while also grabbing a few extra draft picks this year too. I mean how is anyone upset with this? Drafting well, clearing out cap space, adding extra picks, finding value in UDFA and PS players, etc...I am quite pleased with the direction of this team. We got a top D right now with a young QB that is exciting and there is a lot to be excited about.

Fair enough. Yeah, I won't be rooting for bad things on Sunday, but certainly prefer a loss on the scoreboard, could impact our draft position by as much as 6 to 8 spots depending what happens in other games.

I still firmly disagree with this. Why would he retire than come to Buffalo? If he wanted to retire, he wouldn't be trying to get out of TB. Retirement comment makes no sense. And most people see Allen as an exciting upward trending QB. FANS and FANS alone have absurd expectations of a rookie. NFL players, coaches, and GM's are realistic and understand he is a rookie on a talentless offense and have seen plenty to be excited about.

Yeah, I wasnt saying hes a target of Bills, I was addressing the comment that "DeSean would never come here" which is false IMO. Doesn't mean Bills want him, but if they did, I feel he would be interested in us.

I agree he's not worth big bucks or over paying. But we are literally one of the best fits for him, he doesn't mind cold weather, and he wants to be a relevant part of an offense that utilizes his best skills in the deep ball. We are literally one of the best fits for him. Again, not saying he is best fit for Bills plans, but I can't see him not being interested in the Bills if they called.

Keep in mind, there is a big difference in rooting for a loss and wanting a loss.

Thats not true, why do people always say this? He wants to be a factor in an offense, Buffalo has a huge need at WR. We have a monster armed QB who loves throwing deep on a team that leads the NFL in deep shots. He played in this kind of weather in Philly and loved playing there. I am not saying we must go get him, but to say he would never come here makes no sense. Im not saying we are his "preferred" destination, but there is no reason to suggest he would never consider Buffalo or come here. In fact, we are quite easily one of the better landing spots for him. Doesn't mean he is the best target for us, but we are one of the better fits for him in terms of opportunity, cap space, and deep ball game which is his bread and butter.

Being honest...a loss where the game was fun to watch with Allen having some nice moments. Josh is just a lot of fun to watch, so I will enjoy that part of the game. But a loss would be more valuable to this team this offseason, there are a lot of teams bunched up in the standings. We are currently in a tie for 7th, so not sure if we would pick 7th or 8th officially (although shows us at 7). However, a win could and most likely would drop us out of the the 10 and as far down as 13th. And Giants and Lions only have 1 less win. So if we lose and they won, we could also move up another spot or two possibly to as high as 5th with a loss. So a win or loss could be the difference in picking as high as 5th or as low as 13th (depending on other outcomes and what the tie breakers would be). Thats a big spread...give me the loss, its too important to our draft slotting.

Are you suggesting the team we fielded this year was their attempt at being a good team? LOL Some of you guys need to understand how to separate fielding a team and building a team. The team on the field this year, especially the offense, is not even close to the finished product. I mean its literally the beginning of rebuilding and what they FIELDED under the circumstances, not what they BUILT.. Some of you act like this was their best effort at building a contender. They were in cap hell, Beane fixed it a year faster than he predicted. They had guys they got rid of after having been around them in McD's first year. They had 2 OL retire they had thought would be here. They went out and got a rookie QB and a second first rounder in Edmunds to groom into being the QB of the defense for years too. I just dont understand how so many fans are so out of touch with reality this season. This was NEVER the end product this year, EVERYTHING they did was to build on for the future to build a real contender, not some 9 win team hoping to make playoffs again on tie breaker for the next 5 years. This next year is now about building this franchise to contend regularly. They have a playoff caliber defense and a young rookie QB. They will begin adding pieces around Allen to help build his success, and judging by McD and Beane actions thus far, I expect a heavy investment in FA/Draft/both on the OL to help protect the kid and get the run game going again to help take pressure off Josh. Additionally some more weapons are certainly coming in at WR and probably TE and maybe RB too.

Well lucky for us then that next year is only year TWO of the 3 year plan. This will only be Beanes second draft. McD first year he was stuck with Rex and Whaleys roster. This was the first actual year of the rebuild where they tore out the pieces the were getting us no where and fixed the cap. Its amazing how out of touch some of you are with the realities and facts of this team.

Man I hate this comment which is spewed all the time around here. Stop. This regime has been together one year. What happened the previous 2 decades has literally zero relevancy. This regime is building THEIR team. Who cares about anything before them. Its utterly pointless to keep wallowing in that self pity and negativity as if THIS team has been struggling. THIS team under McD has made the playoffs 1 out of 2 years. THIS regime went out and got a QB to try and build around. THIS regime has cleared the cap out to bring in better pieces to build a contender. THIS regime got rid of many past mistakes. Get over the past people, its irrelevant. THIS is the FIRST dedicated year to the rebuild. And the team is moving a good direction with a defense good enough for the playoffs and a young QB to build around.

This is a more fair stance. But to be equally fair, you can’t say that and also ignore the good additions they brought in too via FA and draft. No GM in history has a .1000 batting average in signings, and while I agree the Star signing hasn’t proved to be worth it yet, the Murphy one can easily be rectified this year as they have outs in his contract, so not a big problem if they don’t want to keep him. Plus, the Star contract isn’t going to hold us back, we have plenty of cap room, so it’s not as bad as it seems. But those OL are not just some JAG players. We lost two pro bowl OL and didn’t have cap room to fill those spots with even competent players. I mean we are starting guys on the OL who are not even good backups. You can’t run the ball or protect your QB when you have poor rotational blockers up front who would struggle to even make other rosters as a backup.