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It makes sense from that standpoint if there is no beef between him and McD. But last we have heard and seen, there was definitive tension there. If they have worked that out behind the scenes (and they certainly could have or do so now), then sure it's more plausible. I just don't recall anything public about them clearing the air or tension, but to be fair, it also doesn't mean it didn't happen. And there you have it. That should put an end to the speculation, but no doubt it won't be lol

He is. Maybe the best to ever do it.

I would not object to him being added to the staff, but in terms of the fire Brady and hire him chants going on - it honestly feels a bit like the old adage "The backup QB is the most popular guy on the team" stuff here. I mean when Daboll was last here, there was a "Fire Daboll" thread as often as there was a "Fire Dorsey" thread and now a "Fire Brady" thread...which is pretty much after every loss where the offense wasn't good. The real elephant in the room is this though: They didn't part on good terms (McD and Daboll). Would they really be interested in working together now? Only if they have since worked their differences out behind the scenes as it never came out in public if they did. My personal opinion is there is almost no chance they fire Brady in season unless the offense goes on like a huge skid for several weeks in a row. When they fired Dorsey, the offense averaged like 19 PPG in his final 6 games or something like that, and against all bad teams. Bills just trounced their previous opponents to the Fins game, including the SB favorites at the time in the Chiefs where Allen was sensational. So for Daboll to come here, he would have to be content with working both under McD again and not as the OC and under Brady. Nothing is impossible, but just feels unlikely given the cold chill that has previously been between McD and Daboll where they don't even want to acknowledge each other after games against each other.

More hype than substance because he isn't instantly winning with a crappy college roster compared to winning with an elite NFL QB? Come on man, you are better than that. Judging him off his first season at a rebuilding college program that isn't a football powerhouse to begin with is pretty silly.

I don't know about that, this team will still be the favorite more often than not. Whether they are SB caliber team is certainly in question after this week - but if this was a one week league, then we would have been Super Bowl champs the week before. So yeah, the one week evaluation isn't very reliable other.

How about you show me where you predicted the Fins would curb stomp the Bills. If you can’t then you really should keep quiet.

And how many of those years were the Bills the one seed? (Zero) And how many of those years did the Chiefs have the one seed? (Three) Thanks for helping make my point though 👍

It’s Brady and Allen. If anyone doesn’t think Allen is having stretches in games where he is playing poor, exhibiting poor pocket awareness, poor vision, and making poor decisions then your are incapable of providing an unbiased review of how he’s played. He was excellent against KC, but he’s not been the same Allen and was not good in all 3 losses and some of our wins. He has had moments in those games, but he’s been off a lot this year. And Brady has been terrible most this season. Yes we need to upgrade at WR still, but these 3 losses are on Allen and Brady more than anyone.

As everyone has said, what will likely happen is irrelevant in this thread. It’s only about the 2 exact choices the OP gave only apparently. And today just proves this was never a choice, you don’t play a 3rd game and all on the road with this team instead of only 2 games, both at home

Probably same as you and every human on Earth including pretty much every Dolphins fan who all thought we would handle the Fins.

Yes.

This is why you don’t play 3 playoff games on the road instead of two at home. You can’t trust this team against lesser teams. This game should really be the nail in this question.

Keon ran a 4.53 at his pro day, other WRs with similar speed have gone on to have great to even elite careers, and Will Levis is a weird example as obviously he could break out too - like guys such as Baker, Darnold, Geno, Gannon, Young, etc did after slow starts, changing teams, etc. But none of that matters, he was never comparing the two, he was just talking about breaking out after a slow start. And yes it’s still possible, but I do have concerns of he can here in this offense based on the reasons I already stated.

This board crapped on Milano, Bernard, Benford, Bishop, AJE, Kincaid, Knox, even Allen, Cook, O’Cyrus, Spencer Brown, Groot, Shakir, and Oliver early in all their careers. Of course no one “remembers” doing that, they only remember the guys they crapped on that didn’t work out like Elam. Or they forget they loved the pick like Ford and then later forgot that when they mock Beane for making the pick.

I think people are missing the point - the OP wasn't comparing him as a player or even peak as Moulds, he simply used Moulds as an example of someone who started slow and then broke out. There is all this focus on discussion comparing the two, but that wasn't the point. So, based on the original question, yes he can still breakout. Will he, is the real question. What I am a little surprised on how they are using him after all the talk from camp and the offseason. All we heard was all the players from Allen, Dion, etc as well as Beane and the Coaches was how much different he looked as a player, how he was the star of camp, always looking like the best WR on the field etc. But despite all that, all they are doing is using Keon as Mack Hollins 2.0 this year. He is primarily used in a blocking capacity and they are not making any attempts to get him involved or get him the ball. Even more suprising was how big of an impact he made week 1 in a key role to help us come back on the Ravens, but they never really looked to get him going in any other game this year. And while that is one part of it, the other part is the frustratingly way that Brady is using him even when trying to get him the ball. They are trying force a square peg into a round hole. They need to study how the Falcons and Colts get London and Pittman involved and going. They move them all over the field and let them run routes they excel at. Instead, Brady seems convinced Keon is the next Mike Evans, and he just isn't that player. He is fast enough, this notion he isn't is honestly absurd. Some of the best WR's in the NFL now and in the past have similar speeds. But their game evolved around that, and we are not doing anything to seemingly to help him do that by forcing him into a similar bad role that he had in College. So yes, he can break out - but I question (and starting to really doubt) if he can here under Brady because of 3 critical reasons: No one in the Bills offense gets consistent targets with Brady's small ball spread the ball offense. Brady's very high value on blocking out of the WR's and Keon being out best blocker doing that Gabe Davis - Mack Hollins type role. How we use Keon and how he would be better as a big slot but he isn't the best WR we have for the slot. It is pretty silly to declare the 1st pick in the 2nd round a bust a season and a half into his career, especially at WR where it can take 3+ seasons before they really start to breakout. But, its a lot harder to breakout when you don't get the opportunities, and when you do, you are getting them too often on routes that are not his strong suit because of the Bills need for him to be that. PS: Keon has gotten open a LOT more than people think. In fact, a lot of our targets have when people have thought "no one is open". Quite frankly both Brady and Allen have not been great in parts of this season, and a lot of missed opportunities have been left on the field. Whether it be Allen checked down too soon, Allen had happy feet, Allen took a short safe throw (usually by design), etc. Doesn't mean Keon is playing well enough, but if we want to get him going, there have been more opportunities there to do so that we have not executed on too. So I do think he has the potential to still be a good player in this league, but at some point, someone needs to make the concious decision to try and find out. And that is NOT at all the philosophy of our offense, and for what we run in this system they have prioritized his blocking (like Brady did with Davis and Mack) as his primary contribution. Final Note: The Hope - I think Gabe Davis return is Keon's best chance to get more involved as a receiving target and not so much a blocker. If Davis can off load some of the blocking duties that Keon takes on, maybe that will create more opportunities to get Keon going as a pass catcher more.

It is, and always been, the 1 seed. It’s statistically and mathematically the best choice. 2 games at home vs 3 games on the road is not comparable. Some of you talk like KC and Balt are some uncontrollable force when neither team is as good as last years versions, we already beat them both this year including the biggest beat down we have put on KC yet last week. But hey to each their own.

Yeah, like I said, scared - thats the literal definition of scared. Well too bad for you then given that there is almost no way that happens to where neither Chiefs and Ravens make playoffs. The entire premise of this thread is based on something almost certainly not going to happen. And here is the kicker - There is no reason the Bills cant be the 1 seed even if Ravens and Chiefs by some weird circumstance both missed the playoffs. I get it is a "what would you prefer" thread, but I prefer we trade for Justin Jefferson too, still not likely to happen. Still, the statistically correct answer is always take the 1 seed, even if the alternative is not having both Chiefs and Ravens in playoffs. Neither team is what they were last year.

For some reason? I have made the reason very clear. 1 less game, and both games at home with no road travels for the team giving them more rest and more time to prepare is an obvious advantage. Not to mention, we have beaten KC more than we lost to them, and just handedly beat them last week. We have beaten the Ravens more than we have lost to them, including beating them every time we played them in the playoffs. But you are for some reason so scared of them that you would rather play more games, make the team travel giving them less rest and less prep time too. Not to mention, less time to mend injuries from a long season. There is no logic that makes that make sense for me, literally can't fathom how that is "easier". To collectively be afraid of two teams who have a 5-4 record and a 3-5 record that we already both beat this year and also beat the Ravens last year in the playoffs. We also should have won the AFCCG too, but the KC game got flipped by refs when they changed a 3 point loss by doing an 11-15 point score flip in the 4th quarter when they twice took away a Bills first down on the same series within 2 plays of each other. So no, I don't fear KC or Balt, especially not this year and not enough to take on an extra playoff game and insure they are all on the road. And quite frankly, the "alternatives" to KC and Balt are not exactly slam dunks themselves, and you have to win 3 times and on the road too.

I already said that Philly is the one game in question, didn't say they are going undefeated, just said that is the only game in question. The Patriots will lose control of the division back to us when we handle business in the next game against them, and make no mistake about it, we will beat them by multiple scores. Not sure why you think the Bucs and Texans are losses - the Bucs middling playoff team who lost to the better teams in the NFC against Philly and Lions - and the Texans are not even a playoff team. I promise you without question the Bills will be clear favorites in both those games, any loss would be an upset.

https://vikingsterritory.com/2025/news/top_news/vikings-fans-2-free-agents - Ive been hearing the Vikings interest a few weeks now, makes a lot of sense with the Flores connection. There is also some talk the Jags could pursue Wilkins after missing out on trying aggressively to get Quinnen Williams. End of the day, we should be looking into him if I am Beane, even get him in for a workout like the Jags are rumored to be interested in doing as well.

I agree with this - if I see Wilkins sign with Balt, KC, Indy, Den, or an NFC contender I will be pissed we didn't do it given the talent and our need, not to mention the low risk. If no one does, then I will still be like maybe we should have, but can't really be mad as there is probably more we don't know that is keeping him off a roster.

Literally, the 1 seed gets the easier schedule, what are we even talking about here? What we are doing in this thread is manufacturing scenarios to manipulate it in a way that the 5 seed faces easier competition. Does anyone really believe KC isn't making the playoffs? I find it interesting in a thread that keeps saying KC and Balt are betting faves to win their division that the counter scenario is neither makes the playoffs. The odds of or neither of them making the playoffs is pretty much a pipe dream unless injuries happen. The reality is that whether we get the 1 seed or the 5 seed, KC is certainly going to make the playoffs. Baltimore could also still make the playoffs if they can stay healthy. So there is almost no chance what so ever that the 5 seed this year produces an easier path to the Super Bowl than the 1 seed. Like its almost statistically impossible to happen. And even if it did, that math and statistics will still prove playing one less game and both games at home has a higher chance of reaching a SB than 3 games with 2 to 3 on the road.

And then Philly trounced KC. So they still beat the best to win the Trophy. But if you take out Denver, which means we are the 1 seed, that means Balt and KC would have played each other round 2, so our path is not Balt then KC. It means we play only one of them in the AFCCG and played someone else 2nd round. So our path is easier by having the 1 seed than it was having to go through 3 games last year. So you are only proving the point that the 1 seed is in fact better. And you quite frankly cannot compare Philly's path to ours, they are a different conference, and the overall talent of the NFC teams vs AFC teams were not equal last year with AFC having way more depth of hard teams than the NFL did. So there was never a path that was going to be harder for Philly or any team in the NFC last year compared to whoever made it the SB in the AFC. By the way - this notion that the 1 seed is "to be the best you beat the best" is inaccurate. By default, the 1 seed has the easier schedule.

No offense, but all math and statistics say other wise, and if you polled every GM and HC in the NFL they would agree that the 1 seed in its current format is a SUBSTANTIAL advantage and its why every single teams primary goal is to win that if they are in contention for it. You will never (and never have) see a team intentionally give up a seed with a bye in it because they think it gives them an "easier" path in the playoffs. The mere idea of forcing a 3rd playoff game, guaranteeing 2 are on the road, over a bye and 2 home games is pretty silly TBH.

I get what you are trying to do - but there is no SoS (strength of schedule) you can create that offsets the massive advantage of the 1 seed. The 1 seed since going to a 17 game season and adding more playoff teams has become a colossal advantage. It was a big advantage before, but its colossal now. With the guys already playing an extra game in the regular season, getting the free pass to the 2nd round to let guys get healthy and also avoid any new injuries in the first round of the playoffs is massive. Not to mention home field advantage. Now apply that to actual Bills this year and it becomes miles apart - Bills final season in the stadium, so every home game could be our last game ever played there. The energy is going to be something that can never be replicated again. But - and maybe more importantly - not only does it give us time for guys to heal up who may be banged up, it gives us one more week to get Ed Oliver back. And if we are going to face a team like Indy in 2nd round, being at home to disurpt and rattle Danny Dimes and have Ed Oliver back facing a tough Indy OL and run game is going to be massive. No disrespect, again I get what you are trying to do, but IMHO there is no path that is so much "easier" to offset the massive value of the 1 seed, not even if we were given the choice to see KC and Balt out of the playoffs all together if we gave up the 1 seed.