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Alphadawg7

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  1. LOL...did you just tell me essentially fans misremember and then proceed to tell me you as a fan remember better? lol. The 2 players this board was all over the most at 9 was Ed Oliver and Hockenson. Once DK ran the 40 time, he did garner more support, but his slow shuttle and agility times kept plenty of detractors and kept him from over taking either Oliver or Hockenson for us at 9. So lets not at all make up some narrative that DK was the top choice around here, because he wasn't. So stop trying to pretend DK suddenly became the TSW darling just because you wanted to draft him too, its just not accurate. What part about me saying that I had Ford as a 2nd rounder is confusing for you because you keep claiming I said he was a first rounder? I said everyone else had him mostly as a first rounder, I did NOT. Not only did I have him as a 2nd rounder, I had Dalton Risner as the better player and my preferred choice but thought he would go before Ford...both proved right. Here is my exact quote: (NOTE: In this draft, I had DK going 8th to Detroit and us trading down from 9 and taking another WR still and then using our 2nd on Ford later who wasn't even my preferred choice, Risner was). SECOND ROUND: Pick via Redskins trade: BILLS DRAFT: Cody Ford - OT/G, Oklahoma NOTE: I previously had Dalton Risner here, however he seems to be rising into potentially the first round. I want to mock Risner, but I think he goes early and that causes Ford to slide a further down to us. So what is it you want to argue? I wanted WR then, I want WR now. I did NOT have Ford as a first rounder, and he wasn't even my preferred OL choice in the 2nd. I honestly can not figure out what it is you want to argue here. We apparently both wanted DK. We apparently both want WR this year. We apparently both didn't think Ford was a first rounder. We both didn't want us to take Ford over DK and both thought it was a mistake then and still do now. So honestly, I have no idea what it is you are trying so hard to make me wrong about when we seem to agree on everything being discussed.
  2. No, that is not accurate as DK was not somewhat popular until he gained some interest after his combine 40 time. I was probably banging the DK drum the loudest and started during the college football season and throughout the offseason as thought he was the best WR1 prospect, even though he was hurt, and a lot of this board was pushing back. It was not until DK blew minds in his 40 did some people get on him, but a lot of people kept saying he had no agility and couldnt run routes and all kinds of stuff. Including a lot of prominent posters. And I didn't say Ford was a good pick, I said I can understand why they wanted to address the OL and obviously it didnt work out. But Ford leading up to the draft was projected to go as high as the teens of the first round. I did a mock draft that year with the Bills selecting him in the 2nd round (I wasn’t as high on him and wanted DK in the first) and a lot of people on this board piled on me saying there was no way Ford was reaching the 2nd round. I discussed Ford in the 2nd round in other peoples threads, again, people saying no way he got to the 2nd round. But make no mistake about it, my number 1 target was DK Metcalf and I wanted him with our first round pick because I never imagined he would make it to our 2nd after his 40 in the combine. I was in the shout box begging to pick DK in the 2nd, not Ford. So don't try and twist this into something else. Hindsight is easy...Ford was widely expected to go in the first, so given we had a need to protect Allen, I understood them going OL even though I wanted DK 10 times more. Ford in the 2nd was good value on him at that moment in the draft and he was BPA for a lot of people at that point even though I much preferred DK. Even after taking Ford I kept screaming to trade back up for DK into the 2nd all shout box as he kept falling one spot at a time after our pick. Not getting DK after seeing him slip that far was disappoin Don't get it mixed up because I said I can understand a team addressing OL with our young QB. Doesn't mean he was my pick, because my main guy that whole season and offseason was DK Metcalf before the majority of the board had any idea about him. I even won money off someone who told me he would be a bust and we bet on his rookie stats of 700+ yards and 5+ TD's. I won.
  3. Again, I am all in on a WR first round, even wanting to trade up and get Thomas of if some unexpected chance Odunze slides close enough to get due to QB run and some stupid team taking Worthy before Odunze (looking at you Dallas). And the year Metcalf was in the draft, I was pounding the pavement all offseason to take Metcalf in the first. Almost nobody on this board wanted him. I was screaming to take him in the 2nd when he slipped, but understood going OL there too even though he didn't pan out. Then I was screaming to trade up from our 3rd as Metcalf continued to slide in the 2nd. So you wont get any objections from me on WR's. However, there is no argument for me to ever reach for a player regardless of position. I don't believe in it at all. My top 11 WR's in this draft all have legit WR1 potential. I would rather trade back at 28 a little bit and recoup maybe a 3rd and still take one of the top WR prospects like Legette, McConkey, Coleman, Franklin, or Pearsall then reach at 28. That is all I am saying. Get max value because the position is so deep. Now if there is a guy at 28 they covet, then you take the WR there, don't wait. Always.
  4. What continues? He commented back at someone comparing him to another player. Don’t tell me you think this means he’s hinting at a trade to Pitt lmao
  5. It’s dead cap hits this year and next year. You seem to always forget that in your crusade against Diggs
  6. I agree you can increase odds taking better prospects...my only point is you don't really when you reach and over draft someone though. I am only against reaching for the sake of taking a position.
  7. Most the difference making WR's didn't come from the first round, and in this draft they will come in several rounds most likely. So this notion that if you don't take him at 28 you won't get a difference maker isn't accurate. What if we trade back at 28 and get the same WR they would have taken at 28? Or take another player and then trade up higher in 2nd and get the same WR they would have taken at 28? Both of those are better than reaching at 28 to take same player wouldn't you agree? Im all for WR in the first...I even want to move up if need be to get our guy. I am just saying this draft is so deep at WR that I am not married to one way to find our guy.
  8. I think it's quite possible this team could be better in 2024. I expect the offense to be better and I think with Rasul anchoring the secondary, Milano and Bernard healthy, Jones and AJE back that the defense with some of its other new components will still be pretty good this year. My biggest concern defensively at this moment in time is depth, but plenty of time still to shore that up with some bargains in FA and also the draft.
  9. I wouldn't call him a great route runner, he was known to run lazy and sloppy routes in Denver.
  10. Yeah, thats fair, I am only commenting on why he shouldn't workout since he can't really improve his draft stock. While he is probably the most hyped in past 10 years, I actually don't think he is any safer of a pick to be an elite WR1 in the NFL than Nabers or Odunze.
  11. No chance at all. He has nothing to gain from combine or workouts. He is cemented as the top WR on the board, generational talent. It is not worth the injury risk to workout when he across the board believed to be going in the top 5. This is not unusual on a prospect graded this high. His stock cannot go any higher than it is, it can only go down. If he was my client, I wouldn't let him workout either. He is probably the highest regarded WR prospect coming out since Megatron though. Nothing to gain from working out, only something to lose. If I was his agent I wouldn't let him workout either.
  12. Don't disagree at all with your assessment about another WR, but I think people are under estimating Shakir still and also under valuing Samuel a bit. Diggs, Shakir, Samuel along with Kincaid and Cook gives Allen already a pretty strong arsenal of weapons to throw to, not to mention Cooks run game. But like I said, I am totally on board going WR early, my only caveat is I don't think we are desperate either to where reaching over better prospects is a sound strategy if their guy isn't there at 28.
  13. I mean honestly almost everything Diggs tweets about has nothing to do with Football, so no, I don't automatically take that as movement is possible. To specifically answer your question about the pay cut, no I don't at all think that this tweet is a result of Beane asking him to take a pay cut. I am not seeing the connection between the tweet and thinking it likely indicates Beane asked him to take a pay cut. Doesn't mean Beane didn't ask him, I have no idea if he did or did not, just answering your question if I think this tweet means that happened. Beane doesn't have a twitter, so him tweeting at Beane doesn't really track IMHO. Especially in such a vague way where it mentions nothing about football or Beane. Its much more plausible he is referring to the "he is gonna be traded before the deadline" crowd and trolling them saying "well" as in where is this trade people keep claiming is coming on social or it had nothing to do with football at all. He didn't list his stats, he retweeted someone else listing his stats. I mean WR's do this all the time and him doing it when fans are giving him crap on social media every day is probably all that was about. Fair if you think that is drama, but I honestly can't get there on that stuff. None of that at all seems to indicate discontent with the Bills or him trying to force his way out. He just stated publicly this off season that he wants to retire a bill, not be traded, and hopes to be here this year. Plus why doesn't his post of say just a red heart get the same assumption its football related as the other posts? Couldn't that mean he loves where he is at? No one comments on that because they can't twist that to mean drama and he wants out. You see, he isn't getting fair treatment...people cherry pick the vague tweets (which he has always posted) that can be twisted and made to look like drama to keep the story going for clicks or to confirm a bias. Yet they don't do that on the ones that suggest he is happy or chill or even take his direct comments of wanting to be here seriously.
  14. I mean from a cap perspective alone, I don't doubt that Beane would be happy to get rid of both his and Von's contracts right now to spread that money out over other needs, but just the economics make it a tough move. Von's for obvious reasons, he is just not likely going to return the value of what he is being paid at his age after his torn ACL. Diggs is different though, because he still is a good player on a team with SB aspirations still and his cap ramifications are big. But if Diggs contract was more tradeable, I would not be surprised at all if they shopped Diggs to shed cap and get younger through a WR rich draft. Finding a stud WR1 on a rookie contract to pair with Allen's next 5 prime years would be ideal. But, for Beane to pull the trigger now, his hand would almost have to be forced with Diggs either being a disruptive force in the locker room or a team willing to make an offer too good to pass up. And given he was a Captain this year, it seems doubtful there is much smoke that is accurate to him being any type of cancer or disruptive force in the locker room because they wouldn't have named him captain. And the eye test sure looked like Diggs and the team were all good all season. As far as a team making an offer Beane couldn't refuse, what team makes sense to do that for Diggs who is 31 this season and in a draft which is one of the best, and could be the best ,WR draft in history in terms of top tier prospects and depth heading into it. People keep saying the Texans, but they are not desperate at WR and could easily just take one in the first just like we can if they really wanted to and have him on a rookie deal to grow with Stroud. The Texans are where we were the first time we lost to the Chiefs in the AFCCG. Ascending team to watch, who made a nice run, but are not a one player away from a SB team. So doesn't make a lot of sense to offer Bills a bounty for Diggs to make it worth the cap hits we would take. The media keeps trying force a drama narrative with Diggs because drama sells. But the facts around the Bills that are known...the direct statements, the fun they have on the field, making him a captian, his pride as a captain, etc all suggest that it isn't as bad as the narrative being pushed is suggesting.
  15. LOL...that is all very rich coming from you. And I found your evidence to be manipulative and cherry picked to fit a confirmation bias of you wanting him traded vs it actually being evidence he might be traded as you were trying to sell it as. Lol...its a message board...you are just as active. Its kind of the point.
  16. Now that I agree with...at least 90% of this thread know Diggs is most likely not going to be traded because the team can not afford the cap hit, we are a team with SB aspirations still this year, McD has a proven record of not wanting to lean hard on rookies unless he has to, and neither Diggs nor Beane seem to want a split. Like I said, no one outside Allen is untouchable though. Diggs does something that makes his presence here a detriment to the teams goals or some team foolishly offers such a bounty that make the cap ramifications are worth the trade, then sure he can be traded. But so far, there are no major issues despite many of you trying to spin every Diggs tweet into one, and its doubtful someone is gonna offer a bounty for Diggs at his age during an insanely deep and talented WR draft. But most of the stuff in this thread is a few people trying to manufacture drama where there is none currently with Diggs to try and propel their own person desire of him being traded. And whether you are or not, others certainly are trying to twist things and make Diggs out to be a Villain and are pushing for him to be traded.
  17. Browns are gonna Brown. Wow...that is insane deal for him.
  18. Never heard of him nor do I even know what position he plays without reading this thread lol
  19. I don't disagree with what you are saying about it not being a vacuum, I do however definitely disagree that WR is our weakest position. Don't get me wrong, I 100% want WR first, even a trade up, we need a succession plan to Diggs and this draft has too much talent. But, we are definitely weaker at other positions right now. Diggs, Samuel, and Shakir is a pretty strong trio of WR's while we are missing starters all over our defense. Also, I think you are looking it at it wrong on how you evaluate closely graded players from different positions, and this has even been directly stated by Beane multiple times. When the draft is deep at one of those positions but has a steep drop off at the other, then the one with the drop off he will often give more value too there because he can still find a quality player later at the other position. So with how deep WR is, according to Beane, if another position is closely graded to the WR he would take but doesn't have a lot to be desired later at that position, he will probably go that other position and take a WR after. Again, I am on your side...I too want a WR and I am hoping we go get Thomas or Odunze if he somehow slips to 20...or if not maybe trade back a short bit from 28 to add another 3rd and then take one of Coleman, Leggette, Franklin, McConkey, or Pearsall near the top of the 2nd. I still think WR is most likely our first pick, and hope so too. Just saying, it wont surprise me if we either wait until the 2nd or make a trade back first and then go WR either.
  20. I wouldn't for that money...I prefer Samuel and take a rookie early. Williams is all name, light on substance. He is always hurt and he has a tendency to have a couple big games that pad his season total stats, then disappear for most of the other games.
  21. What is the O/U on number of games he misses? 8?
  22. Got it, so no bet you are saying. Guess you need odds...which just means you do actually know that its much more likely he won't be traded...like you don't even feel its a 50/50 chance or you would take the bet. Weird...feels like a different vibe than your previous posts in this thread. Like I have been saying...its been about your guys personal want of a trade, not that there is any real evidence he is on the verge of being traded or actively shopped. And there is nothing wrong with even wanting him to be traded...just seems unnecessary to manipulate info to make Diggs a villain just to try and manifest your wishes. And that is really the thing so many are pushing back on.
  23. I said you are a coward because you want to hedge your bets so you can try and not be wrong while somehow pretending to be right. I get it, as often as you are wrong you need to try and create some mirages once in a while to save face. Your take of you don't expect him to be traded but wouldn't be surprised if he was is a totally reasonable take. And if you posted like that, you would be fine. But you don't...you antagonize those who, like you, think its much more likely he won't be traded as if they are crazy for not buying into the he is about to be traded conspiracies. You do this so you can say I told you so if he does...and if he doesn't say "I never said he was going to get traded, I said he most likely wasn't". And again, the take isn't what is wrong, its your pompous attitude to everyone who doesn't believe he will as if you are certain he will while still saying he probably wont be. LOL, riled up not. I love it when you bring it up, I take it as a compliment. And if you get a victory lap then so do I because I have said multiple times now that only Allen is untouchable and its not impossible for Diggs to get traded. I just don't buy he is about to without something significant happening or Beane getting a crazy offer. You see, we both are saying the same thing...so guess we both get a victory lap by your definition. Funny, I said Allen wasn't gonna win MVP...so think you got your stories mixed up per usual. And hey, unlike you I was willing to commit to a prediction and we almost made the AFCCG. No regrets on that either, that was a great and fun thread.
  24. You are the one who asked for odds in a personal bet between 2 people. You are also the one so certain he gets traded. So lets make the bet or pipe down.
  25. That was 2019 though, it was the first real investment into the DL in terms of drafting. And our DL needs help in this draft regardless. I am not advocating for DL at 28, I want a WR too. But if the BPA is a DT, I would rather take the better player then try and use some of those 10 other picks to move up from our 2nd rounder and grab one of the guys like Coleman, Franklin, Leggette, McConkey, Pearsall from that group most likely going in the 2nd round. Worst mistake is passing up talent to reach for a position.
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