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I think the biggest thing with Coleman is how much better he was looking before the injury and then how he was a bit lost in his role after time away coming back from injury. I would say its more probable the guy we saw pre-injury was more in line of what to expect or better this year. He admitted he didn't know how to be or fit in coming back after being out a while and his role seemingly a little different with how the offense was then clicking. And on one hand you are glad to see a young player be unselfish, and on the other he needs to find ways to get back involved and that comes with experience too. Best thing about him is that Allen has said Keon has been hitting him up all offseason on getting better, more on the same page, etc all offseason...so I think what we saw pre-injury or better is more in line of what we will see this year. Kincaid being healthy will I think lead to more of the breakout we expected last year when he essential played hurt most the season and battled a nagging knee. This is key IMO to really take the pressure off of Allen...give him a defense where the offense isn't going to always need to be perfect to have a chance to win those tough postseason games.

I mean no theory needed...Beane has said they fully expect Cook to play his contract out this year. With Cook, Davis, and Ty we were set at RB already. The fact they didn't make a move in the draft shows they are fully expecting Cook to suit up and be all in this season. And Beane said they will continue to try and work on a deal along the way. Had they drafted one in the first 4 rounds, especially one that would have been a complimentary player to what Davis does, then I would think there was either expectation of a potential hold out or some trade talks that felt close at the very least. The lack of activity just backs up everything Beane has said about Cook and the good relations between the 2 sides still, and what they expect to see from him come camp.

Is there a weaker fan meltdown right now other than WR? Highest scoring team in the AFC reg season AND postseason. Most total points in the NFL. 16th best offense in NFL history. Numerous NFL offensive records - as a team and individuals. Numerous all time Bills records - as a team and individuals. Lost AFCCG to a team by allowing 32 points that didn't score 30 the entire season or postseason and was down 34-0 in 3rd quarter the next game. Better WR group heading into the season than the group our season ended with. Yet...non stop threads about WR after a draft where WR was a weak class and was best at DL and Corner, the 2 real weakest roster positions heading into the draft. Peak TSW off season form...congrats

Cute you put safety twice to try and divide the votes to make WR stand out more. I wonder what fan narrative is the weakest right now? I think its obvious

FWIW - As I shared on the board during that draft, I know for a fact we called the Chargers to try and move up, and it was to get Addison. Chargers had no Interest in moving off their pick as they were all in on Quentin, and I have that from 2 sources directly connected to the matter.

Well considering our point differential and the fact we had an NFL record for most wins by 20+ points in NFL history this year...I would say...not many. No disrespect bud, but doesn't matter who our WR's are...Allen is going to make super human plays no matter what. You can't just say he is making them because of who the WR's are...he made them when we had a top 5 WR in Diggs, maybe the best slot WR in the game at the time in Cole, and vets and deep threats around him like Davis, Sanders, and Brown. Still making super human plays...that is who Allen is. So you can't also then say he is only doing it because you don't like who the WR's are. And people need to stop pretending it was all Allen too...go back and watch the biggest moments in our closest wins. Guys all over the offense were making big plays that either were not Allen, not even a pass, or bailed Allen out. And Allen would be the first person to tell you that himself.

No disrespect...I am not not follwing the bolded...why is "betting on that again" a little ignorant? The offense we ran last year wasn't a one year gimmick due to lack of resources at WR. It is who we are moving forward, and its not like we kept getting lucky week after week. We scored over 30 like 8 straight games if I am not mistaken on our way to avg 31 points despite Allen sitting weeking 17 and offense pretty much going into hibernation for whole quarters, even some 2nd halves in big blow out wins. And, on paper at least, I think there is a legit case to say our weapons are better today then when we last walked off the field. Coleman got a bit lost coming back from injury, but pre-injury he was very promising and should be better as a year 2 WR and healthy than he was as a rookie. Allen even said Keon has been hitting him up all offseason on getting better, getting even more on the same page in terms of timing and thinking in live play, etc. Then you have Palmer who is an upgrade over the ghost of Cooper and Hollins in terms of a downfield receiver. Shakir has done nothing but ascend each year, so not unreasonable to expect to see him be even better, Samuel is healthy entering the season, and Kincaid is healthy again where he was playing hurt most the season last year. Year 3 for him I expect to see a step forward as well. I mean this offense just led to Allens first MVP, we still have a dominant OL, best QB in football, and a great run game as well. I don't see how expecting the offense or betting on it to be good again is ignorant. It seems more silly to expect a big fall off than to expect it to be a top 5 offense again.

One more thing...I thought after Beane hopped off, Jeremy and Joe (especially Jeremy) got childish, butt hurt, and classless. Not a shock from what I know of them, but that was pretty weak after Beane crushed his segment and then left to where he couldn't respond to their nonsense. And the overwhelming sentiment is pro Beane on this, most applauding how he handled it, and raving about it really. So thats an even worse look for the butt hurt Jeremy to end it the way he did once Beane was gone.

Beane was 100% spot on, this was one of my favorite Beane moments of his tenure...hats off to him, loved this.

SIGN HIM! I wanted us to try and trade for him when he was with the Jets before he went to Cleveland. This guy would have a lot of potential in this offense. He’s been in football purgatory stuck in two dumpster fire organizations with inept QBs. F5 F5 F5

Proof is in the results too…look at how much better Allen was with the ball last year, how much more efficient and better this offense was, how many more points it scored, and how much more balance it had.

But it was week 4 though. Teams all over the league had bad weeks during the regular season. Come January, we ended their season

Yet…we still scored the most points in the NFL. And most points per game and total points in AFC Playoffs.

I get the sentiment, I want him to start early. But the reality is this regime tends to prefer not throwing rookies in early unless there is a clear hole. And Tre is a wildcard. 2 years removed from injuries, if he shows some of his previous form just wouldn’t surprise me if he starts initially. FWIW - I think Hairston is more likely to start week 1 than not

Especially a roster coming off being the 16th best offense in NFL history that also averaged 29 points per game against 3 of the toughest AFC defenses in the league, only losing finally by giving up 32 points to a team that didn’t break 30 in any other game during the season or post season that was also down 34-0 at one point in their next game. Not to mention, we are better on paper at WR heading into the season than where we were when our season ended.

Is there a team in the NFL who scored more points than us? No. And only 15 teams in NFL history scored more than us. So there’s that.

If I had to pick 3: OROY Jeanty - He is my top choice. Hunter - If he plays two way and does well at both, he will be hard to beat Hampton - He has to overtake Najee, but I think he will. **Honorable mention: Shadeur Sanders - if he starts, and I think he will start.** DROY Carter - He is my top choice. Walker Starks

Rookie of the year will not be a Bill

I agree with this…but let’s also remember it’s a lot of youth too, so raised expectations are warranted but also some patience will be needed to let these guys get their feet wet and develop too as the season goes on. With vets like Tre, DQ, Oliver, Groot, Bosa, etc here don’t be surprised if none of them open week 1 as the starter at their respective positions and see their roles grow as the season goes on. Collins and Sanders are assured healthy snap counts as we run a heavy rotation, but it’s not out of the question that if Tre looks good in camp he opens at their starter.

16th greatest offense of all time. And now….Palmer > Hollins. Not really seeing the need for the peak meltdown form this is deteriorating into. Dont get me wrong, I badly wanted WR Dont’e Thornton, but I also was way more concerned about our defense than our historically great offense.

Nothing better could happen for Cle than have a throw away season. They are in full rebuild and can’t really do it properly for this season or next with Watson massive franchise killing contract. If they cut Watson next year it’s over 100m cap hit. If they don’t cut him he costs around 75m cap hit still and like nearly $30M again in 2027. So might as well suck this year and get max value in your draft picks next year to set your franchise up for life after Watson in 2027 and beyond

I would, they came out hard against the allegations, filed a federal case against her for setting him up for a money grab, etc. Bills could just come out and say they are going to give the young man the opportunity to clear his name. If not, he’s an easy cut

We also depended a lot on defensive turnovers. The discrepancy on D was a wide gap to the offense.

We had the 16th greatest offense in history last year. We were one of the worst in NFL defensively on 3rd down. Maybe it’s not the massive issue you think it is and other areas were why we didn’t make the SB.

I feel like Raiders passed on Sanders like 9 times already lol