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It didn’t matter at that point what the offense did previously, stopping the field goal attempt was job one, and they failed.

Not panicked in the least. Just frustrated because the loss was avoidable. Very little room for error in the NFL.

I don’t think there’s any concern about whether or not the Bills will be a good team this year. I think most of the concern stems from the fact that we haven’t seen anything yet to make us think that this team will be any better than the ones that have fallen short in previous years. Good news is we can still beat anyone, just need it to happen 3-4 times in a row in the playoffs.

There is some truth to that, but we all also suffer from BBFS. And part of that is undervaluing our own players and overvaluing other teams players. Take a player like Ed Oliver. If the Bills had never drafted him and he was a Raven, half this board would get a warning from @simon in a non-Bills game thread for asking "why can't the Bills have a player like that?" every time he made a play. But put a Bills helmet on him, and everyone thinks he is average at best. All of those feelings used to be valid because for almost 20 years, this franchise felt like a joke. We hired guys like Buddy Nix, and we go fed "cash to the cap," and had guys retire at halftime. We had a coach quit! Not retire, but outright quit!. That never happens. Guys like Drew Bledsoe, Marshawn Lynch, and Stephon Gilmore couldn't wait to get out of this backwater on the fringes of the league. Now, this is a well-run NFL franchise that players want to play for. But that perception of ineptness is set in stone for most of us. It's hard to get past. Sorry for all the philosophizing, but I have been thinking about this lately when I realize that my non-Bills fan friends have a much better opinion of Beane and McDermott than I do. BTW, the Bengals fans I know would trade their all-world WRs for our OL in a second. Sometimes we lose sight of the fact that the team is pretty good in the trenches, and that goes a long way in determining games.

I live in Eagles county, this is what they’ve been telling me since we got him. There’s no teeth to his defense.

Not panic personally More just justifiable frustration after voicing legitimate concerns, being met w 'fOuR aNd oH', them immediately seeing those concerns manifest in a loss

Meanwhile our D is a heaping pile of dung. It’s epically bad.

Good to know, and I believe they have talked about using it for soccer in the past so likely the same case.

Hell I’d like to be up 14 at the end but sometimes it’s a close game

I’m not sure it’s the case at the new Bills Stadium but when we design them it has to extend far enough to accommodate a soccer field, which is wider than a football field.

I think there’s a, not totally undeserved, feeling that we have a qb that makes us a contender annually but the rest doesn’t always measure up. while the Trent and fitz teams that started hot were fools gold for wild card contention, this one feels a bit like that for the Super Bowl. in a league where you pass and stop the passer we are missing a secondary and a pass rush, as well as pass catchers. I’ll admit I think we overachieved last year a bit and outside of bosa we didn’t add a lot of new to the cupboard. Bosa might really help one of those 3 phases- maybe even 2 by taking stress off the secondary none of that to say we are some 6 win fraud… but that I’m also not buying the if we beat New England we are the last undefeated and those question marks disappear.

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Cooper pretty obviously doesn’t want to play football anymore. It was fairly obvious last year. Which is a damn shame. A healthy and motivated Cooper could have put us in the Super Bowl.

On Joe Marino podcast today the secondary play was discussed in depth. Conclusion: Tre White is doing about what he's capable of and it's not good enough. Cole Bishop is doing about what we could hope for at this point. And, Benford, Rapp and Taron have performed well below what was expected. Combined with a decent pass rush=abysmal performance by secondary. We've avoided the big play because and we play extra deep due to fear.

This place is always bad after a loss. But this one was especially hard because of who it was to. It also didn't help that Diggs was the one who did the damage. Most of us have been waiting for the Bills to suck again for the past 6 years, and losing to the Patriots with 3 turnovers takes us right back to 2012. Losing to the Pats just feels like a regression to the mean. Those feelings will never go away unless the Bills win a Super Bowl. For what it's worth, my most depressing theory is that the killer wasn't 13 seconds. It was being unprepared to play in the 2020/2021 AFC Championship game. We were the surprise team of the season and one win from the Super Bowl. Then they came out and looked like they didn't belong. We've been chasing that tail ever sense.

Ignoring whether or not you thought of it what do you think would happen if Keon Coleman suddenly played like a top ten WR that could punish teams deep? no worthy is too small or legette or DK debate… simply Keon steps in and plays like an elite wr. does our run game improve? does our defense look better with a lead?

Ray Davis was the 128th pick in the NFL Draft - drafted in the 4th round. It is kind of insane to think that he is going to account for 30% of snaps at where he was drafted unless we caught lightning in a bottle.

Maybe, but personally the thought “if only our passing game had been better” never crossed my mind after losing the AFCCG last year.

Pretty sure a standard domestic beer was $12 last season, so $18 for a 24oz isn't too bad of a deal.

For sure! They kept safeties over the top. They spent time preparing for him, etc.. I’m by no means saying he was a dynamic player here. All that was said is that the passing game and scoring was much better with him than without? Why? Who knows but his presence almost certainly played a role.

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I think a lot of it is scheme. The secondary still isn’t getting beat deep very often cause they’re still playing soft coverage as if our pass rush is still not good, allowing a ton of short easy completions. Now that the pass rush is much better they should be playing more aggressive coverage because the DL is heating up QBs and forcing them to get the ball out quicker. Our coverage and pass rush are just not complimentary at all.