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It’s the Mack Hollins curse

Oh and btw Josh had Palmer. Palmer screwed up. Play it in slow mo. Palmer is running across the 10 yardline when Josh started that throw. Had he continued his direction, he would have flashed in front of the safety and caught that ball... or at least he would have been in position to. Instead he changed his route direction and went upfield while the ball was already in the air. This put him at the 5 and allowed the safety to easily get in front of him for the INT. As much as people want to cry about Knox being open, so was Palmer. Palmer just messed up.

Normally I would agree. I like Aiyuk and I rooted for him to get his deal. That said, I feel like he mailed it in afterwards. It's been a year since his injury and we've heard little in the way of him returning. I think he likes collecting those massive game checks while simply "rehabbing." Gut feeling - I wouldn't touch him. Multiple Super Bowl appearance and very competitive rosters over the years.

Louder for the people in the back.

^^^ i don't want a GM thats taking this job with McD on board. Maybe you hire gm - he picks coach ORRR hire coach, he picks GM. But any GM taking this job with McD here is already starting off on a bad foot and in a power imbalance Honest to God, I know we wont.... but id prefer we lose a bunch the rest of this season. IR these guys and dont risk anything further. Blow up the staff in off season, or bare minimum get serious about bringing in real coordinators. Id genuinely prefer we miss playoffs. We need the better draft picks. If we can we basically start the 're-load' early, and that might help us next year, but at worse re opens 2027 as a true window. 1. Move Kincaid if we feel hes near peak value. We cant keep extending injury prone players. 2. Move Big Ed. This again salary + injuries Move. 3. Knox. Gone. Milano gone. 4. Shop Torrence. I could be convinced either way depending on what the return would be. 5. Shop Shakir. Hes a nice player, but hes a fancy tier 1, #3. We dont have a number 1 or 2. Gotta do what ever it takes to get those. We won't be able to get tier 1 for both the boundary spots... draft one and trade for one is probably the way to plug those. 6. Shop Dawkins. I hate it, thats my dude.. no thats not because of false starts. Hes no spring chicken, hes salary is starting to climb right around the time his play level is going to start to dip. Idk what kinda value hed bring, but id quietly find out. The good news? Bishop is gunna be fantastic. Benford rebounding it feels like. Hairston looks good out there, after a mega abbreviated TC, missing 10 games (pre season wouldve helped him too). concussion makes me a lil nervous, but that's probably more my Bills ptsd than a valid concern right now (btw... did Cole Bishop dish that out to him? I saw him friendly fire at least once last night lol) Im not at 5 star alarm on Bernard, ive watched him super close last 2 games, and hes only out there because everyone else is beat up. Dude cant run right now, looks like some variation of lower body injury, the kind that sucks but fine long term. Let's hope we can get 14-15 really solid games a year outta him, hes a plus player. Im frustrated, but not enough to be irrational like other L's. I think these are all pretty even keeled ideas. Were not gunna trade kincaid, Oliver, Shakir and Torrence in an off season, but id hard shop Dalton & Oliver... kick around idea of 1 of the other 2.

I think I heard a stat that Josh was 8-0 on Thursdays before this one .. must have all been at home .,, the stat I’m hearing today is Allen is 0-4 in Houston

🤣🤣 this season is crazy I'm confident in our depth at both positions though, don't feel like it'll make or break us

Started losing my hair in my 40’s, now going on 25 yrs. I still have hair on top that combs back and a thinning bald spot. In straight on pics I look bald. Started using Rogaine about a year ago. About 3 months in rashes started on my forehead so I stopped. Only recently has it stopped breaking out. That said, I’m bald.

This hasn't changed. We're still #2 in the league in offensive yards and #5 in points this season. #2 and #3 in terms of points and yards on a per drive basis.

Yeah, Chan Gailey put together a decent offense with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB.

thread bump.......still sticking with the Ravens.....hope Tyrod doesn't screw me here.

Honest to God, I know we wont.... but id prefer we lose a bunch the rest of this season. IR these guys and dont risk anything further. Blow up the staff in off season, or bare minimum get serious about bringing in real coordinators. Id genuinely prefer we miss playoffs. We need the better draft picks. If we can we basically start the 're-load' early, and that might help us next year, but at worse re opens 2027 as a true window. 1. Move Kincaid if we feel hes near peak value. We cant keep extending injury prone players. 2. Move Big Ed. This again salary + injuries Move. 3. Knox. Gone. Milano gone. 4. Shop Torrence. I could be convinced either way depending on what the return would be. 5. Shop Shakir. Hes a nice player, but hes a fancy tier 1, #3. We dont have a number 1 or 2. Gotta do what ever it takes to get those. We won't be able to get tier 1 for both the boundary spots... draft one and trade for one is probably the way to plug those. 6. Shop Dawkins. I hate it, thats my dude.. no thats not because of false starts. Hes no spring chicken, hes salary is starting to climb right around the time his play level is going to start to dip. Idk what kinda value hed bring, but id quietly find out. The good news? Bishop is gunna be fantastic. Benford rebounding it feels like. Hairston looks good out there, after a mega abbreviated TC, missing 10 games (pre season wouldve helped him too). concussion makes me a lil nervous, but that's probably more my Bills ptsd than a valid concern right now (btw... did Cole Bishop dish that out to him? I saw him friendly fire at least once last night lol) Im not at 5 star alarm on Bernard, ive watched him super close last 2 games, and hes only out there because everyone else is beat up. Dude cant run right now, looks like some variation of lower body injury, the kind that sucks but fine long term. Let's hope we can get 14-15 really solid games a year outta him, hes a plus player. Im frustrated, but not enough to be irrational like other L's. I think these are all pretty even keeled ideas. Were not gunna trade kincaid, Oliver, Shakir and Torrence in an off season, but id hard shop Dalton & Oliver... kick around idea of 1 of the other 2.

Yeah but he literally has half his career left Again we need to be better to Josh.. Peyton Manning didn't win or go to a Super bowl till he was 30 Josh is literally on the same trajectory as Peyton Manning even almost statistically And Peyton would have never left Indianapolis but he got that neck injury and missed an entire year and they lucked into Andrew hahaga Play on words

Turnovers has happened on both sides of the ball. The offense has turned the ball over more than they did last season and the defense has gotten fewer turnovers this season. They have regressed to the mean and it's making a big difference in how this team plays.

How the 1990 and 1991 Bills did not win a Super Bowl is stunning. Those teams Kelly led were absolute juggernauts. People think we are missing the window now. Holy cow back then i remember we were better than everyone by a long ways. except for the last game.

We've been top 10 in passing yards every season since 2020 including this year.

This is one messed up executed play. First, the crosser wipes out Knox's defender allowing Knox to be wide open. Second, Josh has a tendency to lock onto the receiver he's going to throw to. Here he locks onto # 5 (Palmer) waiting for him to clear the deep safety. That's why he's cocked before anyone is in his face but doesn't deliver until he's pressured resulting in an underthrown ball off his backfoot. Third, Palmer hesitates at the end of his route seemingly settling into a gap in the zone instead of continuing across the field. This results in him not being where Josh thinks he'll be when he releases the ball. This play is illustrative of what I see from this year's Bills team -- failure to execute. That's not the only problem (injuries, etc.) but it's a major one. Thoughts?

They kind of were wiped off the map. For a team whose supposedly has one of the best offenses in the league, they again struggled to put up points in the 2nd half.

She can kill with a smile, she can wound with her eyes And she can ruin your faith with her casual lies And she only reveals what she wants you to see She hides like a child but she's always a woman to me

I didn't think vested players hit waivers

They don't understand because this is peak meltdown time.

Your might be a bad fan but still have good football IQ. Both can be true at the same time.

Stafford was at a much worse organization.. gripe was much bigger and he still lasted 12 years He never won a playoff game and his average playoff losses were by 15 We just lost in the AFC championship by a field goal... And win a playoff game at least every year .696 allen's win percentage .476 or something - Stafford's win percentage with the Lions With zero NFC North titles Truly that is not even close to the same organizational failure Again Josh is much closer to Peyton Manning who didn't win a Super bowl till he was 30 but had a bunch of success... Couldn't get by Brady

My thought is that there is alot of pressure on Stroud. He needs to step up (OL too) and not waste away a defense this great. If they had a good offense they would be a top two betting favorite to win the SB. With the Bills, I disagreed with going for it on 4th and 1. Take the points. The defense was stopping them at that point. Lastly, I thought a win was in the bag after that 4th down lateral play. Instead, it will be forgotten. Shame.