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Josh is a much better player when he can go wherever he wants as opposed to worrying about giving a guy targets The record number points we put up last year speaks to that. The 30 plus a game this year speaks to that. We are also a run first team. How would AJ feel about that? Because his presence is not enough for us to become a run and shoot team

Amazing isnt it? They havent been the 85 Bears no. But you would think the defense is dead last (its ranked 20th) and they are getting blown off the field each week (they are not) and the team is 0-4 (they are not), the way some people are acting.

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Defense looks undisciplined And poorly schemed. No we meant to not cover their WR1 over the deep middle, we're trying to lull them into a sense of complacency THEN we'll cover him! They don't know what hit em!

With a government shutdown looming, Democrats are clanging like cymbals, accusing Republicans of not wanting to fund "healthcare." Of course, the truth of the matter is far different from their pronouncements. What's being "cut" are COVID-era emergency appropriations that Democrats set to expire in the Inflation Reduction Act. Then there's the issue of funding for healthcare for illegal aliens, which is part of the $1.5 trillion "hostage" deal exposed by Vice President JD Vance and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA). But while Democrats are no doubt responsible for marching America toward another shutdown, given they'd be the ones blocking a clean funding bill, they would also be marching themselves into a trap. If the clock strikes midnight and there's no continuing resolution, the Trump administration will be able to go nuclear on the bureaucracies, which remain the primary power center for the left. In fact, a memo has already been set out by OMB telling various government agencies to prepare for mass firings. That leaves Democrats with very little leverage in negotiations as the deadline looms. If they choose to plow forward with shutting the government down to virtue signal for illegal immigration, they will end up taking a hatchet to the embedded bureaucracy, their primary source of policy influence. So are they bluffing? I'm starting to think so. No doubt Schumer and company are more than willing to screw over Americans, but are they willing to screw over themselves? Color me skeptical they'll give Trump that big of a win just to garner a few more backslaps from MSNBC. I think there's a good chance Democrats back down in the eleventh hour. https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/09/30/democrats-are-walking-into-a-trap-n2194556

The second in command has to report to and take instruction from the first in command? Thats an amazing find...you really might be on to something there.

Except when it was a problem before and Leslie Frazier got blame. And that's just the biggest circumstance we know of Jerry Hughes has alluded to the fact that the organization was all suspension and fluff without any body. The head coach is there to instill discipline, the chief organizer, the person who is on top of all things systemically. That this just magically appears to be a new problem concerns me to make me wonder if it was one all along. Hindsight being 20/20 it certainly appears to be.

True... but the last 3 games they're averaging 16.6 points allowed, 17.3 first downs, 103 passing yards, 139.6 rushing yards, 242.6 total yards, and 1 takeaway per game. Are any of those averages likely to win a game? No. They've also trailed all of 4 minutes during the 3 game stretch.

Bills fans are going to be all over but the visitor side will have the most - this is also the "sunny side" so be prepared. Hotels - Ft Laud Beach area will have a lot of Bills fans staying there. There is also an organized/ticketed Tailgate w/bus leaving from that area through local Bills Backers. See you there!

I didnt realize this thread was about the entire draft class. This was about Landon Jackson not an evaluation of the draft class. Our 3rd round pick has not seen a snap and I was pointing out that our 1st rounder has not either. They are 2 of only 3 players league wide picked that early in the draft that have not played. It is more of a fact than a criticism. And being 4-0 with no impact from 2 of your top 3 picks...

Having been to a few of these, there’s always a few who show up in camo or orange hunting gear.

I’ve been big on giving this team its own identity and their own traditions. Zubaz, the Shout Song, etc… belong to the early 90’s Bills. This era deserves their own memories and identity. The new stadium will be the biggest part. These jerseys, Mr. Brightside, and the legend of the game (despite using early 90’s sayings) are unique to them. They absolutely deserve that. It’s time to say goodbye to Zubaz. Maybe they never retire the Shout Song but if there was ever a year to say goodbye, it would be this year. Through the drought it was fine to pay homage to the glory years. This era, stands on it’s own. I have no idea why they waited. It certainly wasn’t based on the sales being slow. They were sold out immediately and everywhere. I somehow was able to get it on Fanatics (with the sleeves) right at launch. I was the only one in our group of 12 that was able to get one.

Also only gave up 19 points. Typical McDermott type numbers. Give up more on ground then air. Break don't bend, etc.

This time seems different with all the presnap confusion and out of position players and opposing offenses recognizing the problems and taking advantage of them. We might not love how he approaches defense philosophically, but that disorganization is not something that has typically been a problem in his tenure.

But the way this defense looks, we should definitely not just be worried about a post season breakdown. Have watched a lot of games this year, and this looks like one of the worst defenses in the NFL now--worse than last year. To me, that fact, and no progression, will mean Babich may done one very soon. But I hope I am wrong, and that he turns it around this week, and going forward, and never looks back. Just not betting on that, based on the evidence.

this is such a horribly outdated talking point. everyone is still harping on that playoff loss to the Bengals where leslie frazier was calling the D. this is not a conservative defense anymore, and it hasn't been in more than two years. just because guys aren't making plays consistently doesn't mean it's conservative. man i swear most of y'all are holding onto opinions about McD from like 2019.

It's what Tua sees every time he gets concussed

And those are the stats that come home to roost against top playoff teams. I said it during training camp and I'll say it again, we have to see what the Bills D looks like during the 2nd half of the season and down the stretch. AND Like most I'm hoping getting past the bye and having a healthy D makes a difference... but NO i feel we are walking the exact same path we have walked before. I do not like what I have been seeing as a whole so far regarding how the D is playing as a unit. There has been some great individual efforts, but no consistency. If things do not improve I forsee another embarassing exit from the playoffs.

I only went down to Miami once for a game and that was the "heat" game of 2022. I went with my wife and a few friends that do a lot of traveling to resort type locations and it was a combo vacation week and hitting up a Bills game. We stayed at the Fontainebleau on Miami Beach, which it technically at Mid-Beach and a few minute Uber ride to South Beach (and a lot of good restaurants). It depends on what you are looking for, but that was definitely more of a vacation style trip to a nice hotel and beach that ended up being fairly expensive. Not really the Bills backer's party/tailgate type of experience. I hear Ft. Lauderdale is better for that if that is what you are looking for. As far as the stadium, there were Bills fans spread throughout. We sat a bit higher up, which at least had full shade from the heat, just not that close to the action.

True. And regardless of what people here think "should" be happening, no team in the NFL has dominated all 4 games that they've played. The Eagles first TD that set the tone of the game against the Bucs, for example, was off of a punt block. But you'll say "the Bucs are a good team." Well, if you are going to play "shoulda/coulda" with the Bills wins, you have to do that with other teams too. The Eagles "shoulda" lost to the Rams. The Bucs "shoulda" lost to both the Texans and Jets. The Colts should be 2-2 because they lost the game to the Broncos, if not for a last-second "leverage" call that saved them. The Chargers just lost to the Giants and shoulda lost to the Broncos. The Jags, on the other hand, should be 4-0 because their sole loss was due almost entirely to a BS DPI call on Travis Hunter. The Lions were dominated by a Packers team that has since lost to the Browns and tied the Cowboys. In fact, if you are being objective, the team that has looked the best this year is the Seattle Seahawks. But they lost week 1 at home and then required one of the most boneheaded special teams mistakes to win in Pittsburgh in week 2. tldr; If you nitpick the Bills' wins, do that for all the other teams too.

I’m ready

lol "dreadful" okaaaaay

The Bills know that they have work to do and know that they are building towards the end of the season. They know the importance of how to build, by winning each game and staying hungry focusing on what wasn't right in victory, because its a lot easier than the pressure in what is wrong coming off a loss. The defense isn't what a lot of us hoped and expected and I think that is fair, because I don't see an imposing unit out there that is in sync the way that they need to be for a full game. They haven't done it yet and I think we'd all like to see it come together for more than a couple of series at a time. However, as you point out Shaw this team plays well when the time comes for it. That is a special trait of a veteran, experienced team that knows how to win big games. Does it mean that they'll be able to turn it on at will to have it go there way? No. And I think that is the part that is reason for concern, you can't get too comfortable being in those positions if you can avoid those positions by more consistent play. Make no mistake about it, though, teams see the Bills and are going to give it their best because they know they are playing a perennial contender with last season's MVP, and other teams have talent, too. Even the bad ones. I think we'll see the Bills start to put more complete games together over the next quarter of the season. That's not to say that they don't want to right now, because I think they do, but I also think this is time to evaluate the schemes and try things that may get scrapped as the season moves on. Hopefully the inside pitch to the slot receiver as a fourth down call is one of them that already has (too many things can go wrong in execution across the entire OL). They have to get a handle on scrambling QBs - that is the No. 1 concern I'm seeing from the D. The Saints game is probably a laugher if that was not such an effective way for the Saints to stay on the field. That means tackles in space and better pass rush lane discipline. Things that are correctable, but also what this team's philosophy should excel at with lighter LBs that are supposed to be able to contain and corral such threats. I still think that they can be more aggressive at times and maybe they will be once they get some teams that can't be counted on as much to beat themselves. I know people are down on Babich and I get that. I don't think he has been that impressive either, but I do think they are in the process of retooling and trying a bit of a different approach. It hasn't clicked yet, and it may not, but I do think if it does - the Bills will likely have the complete team necessary to get where they want to go.

That's a good stat, but you need 10 yards for a 1st down. Not trying to be flippant. Just speaking to what the comment below mentions.

I'm usually on board with you in this sort of debate, but I think this is absolutely a valid discussion at this point. At no point in McD's tenure have we ever seen a defense this unprepared, disorganized and confused. Teams are taking advantage of that on a regular basis and there is a point where it has to be addressed one way or another. It's early enough in the season where you could make a change at DC and still have enough time to get your ducks in a row before the stretch run. There's also the option of having Sean just take over, but that creates it's own set of problems when your HC is distracted from game management on Sundays. At the least, I would hope that McD takes a far more proactive role during the week to see if he can address the significant problems with preparation and attention to detail while leaving Babich to call the game on Sunday. Then if the same problems with incoherence continue, you maybe consider making a more significant change.