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Yep on the definition you have applied to it I think it's Kyler. He has been paid, barring injury he will not lose his job in 2025 so in that sense the ("franchise" is tied to him) but he is the weakest of the guys in that group.

So in the rank the QBs threat the other week my "franchise" tier was my 2nd tier and the lowest ranked "franchise" guy I had.... was CJ Stroud at #13 overall. To me "franchise" means a guy that I am currently totally committed to, not even thinking right now about moving on from any time soon (largely cos they are very difficult to upgrade unless an elite guy falls in your lap). Of the guys @FireChans group together in his OP only Mayfield was in that group for me at #11 overall. I think @FireChans (and a lot of other posters in this thread) have interpreted it as meaning guys who are at proven starters who are at no risk of losing their job (other than through injury) during 2025. That was my tier 3 in my rankings and I had Tua, Purdy, Nix, Geno, TLaw and Kyler in the tier, with Kyler at #19 the bottom of it. I don't think Kyler will lose his job in season during 2025 but of those six guys he is the one who is most likely not to be the starter for the same franchise in 2026 IMO. Everyone after Kyler is still very much unproven at this point - Maye, Caleb, Penix and this year's rookies - OR is a proven vet who if they stunk the joint up in-season this year could be pulled (Rodgers, Fields, Wilson, Darnold, Flacco etc). So depending on your definition of "franchise" my answer is either: CJ Stroud or Kyler Murray.

Classic Marino. A great, great, thrower of the football, regardless of circumstance.

Those little kids are very demanding customers…. I’m exhausted at the end of the day ….

For me it’s either Dak or Lawrence.

💯 - but also...

Only one side has had a meltdown. The one who lost their underground nuclear reactor Obama paid for.

Sitting here in the dead of night I have came to the realization that I have been on this website for over 8 years Plenty of times on the road this website keeps me occupied talking with Bills fans which is more than I could ever ask for Thanks to All of the moderators and site owner @AiO @R. Rich@SDS@Nervous Guy @Simon @Canadian Bills Fan And this is easily the best NFL message board in the country thanks to all the bills fans here... Too many to count and name Just wanted to say thank you and go bills

So sad. How will he take care of his fambly?

I was the only one watching too. And I totally agree— that moment just felt so defining in my fandom as a kid!

Unless you're a perennial All pro.. I think the line between good and great is squarely the scheme and the people around you If we put the right people around ed he will be great.. When we get thin and he's forced to play the one technique he gets banged up and he's not as effective Somebody like Kyle Williams could be good to great depending on his scheme and the people around him throughout the course of his career.. but he had some help... Marcus Stroud was a former pro bowler, Marcel Dareus was all pro... Mario Williams was collapsing the pocket When the line was just Kyle Williams he's not as effective tho he was still the same guy Ed needs a true 1T to take pressure off of him.. because if he doesn't he's forced to play it.. because he's a beast.. but he's not big enough to withstand that punishment throughout a whole NFL season

For me both Oliver and Rousseau are at the good-not-great level. After that things get interesting. Bosa could return to his former glory. Or he could spend the season on IR. Who knows? I never watched Hoecht very much, but I know that he's a very smart and versatile player who can play DE, DT, and LB. That means when he's on the field, the offense doesn't necessarily know what defensive alignment we're in, assuming we switch him around. He could be an interesting X factor. Ogunjobi seems like he could be a good depth piece though PFF only graded him a 49.4 last season. And then there's the rookies. If everyone is as good as we hope, this will be the best DL we've had in a while. But if our fears materialize (Bosa is hurt, the rookies play like rookies, Hoecht's versatility is misused, Ogunjobi deserves his 40s PFF score, etc.), then our entire defense will struggle. I'm hoping for the best but right now it all feels iffy to me.

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Maybe I buried my lead. Some posters say McDermott's record or success as a HC is only because of Josh, i.e. Josh is carrying the team, and McD would not be a good coach without him. It gets brought up around here a lot. I have heard people knock McDermott as a bad coach and in the same breath praise Sean Payton as a great coach. Yes, Sean Payton won one Super Bowl (his only appearance). He had future-HOFer Drew Brees for 15 years (5 of which were losing seasons). I never hear anyone say Drew Brees carried Sean Payton. And yet, if McD went 15 years with Drew Brees as his QB with only one SB appearance (and five losing seasons), he would be tarred and feathered here for wasting a HOF QB. And Payton has had some doozy playoff losses as well. It just seems like there is a double standard when it comes to McDermott. And no, I wasn't saying McDermott is as good of a coach as Don Shula. Just that Shula had 3 HOF QBs play for him (2 of the greatest QBs of all time), but no one says his success was only due to those QBs. We acknowledge that he was a great coach as well as having great QBs. And I wasn't trying to say that McDermott is an All-Time NFL coach by posting that list, I was just pointing out that all of these guys that we label as excellent coaches (who have won a lot of games and SBs or whatever) almost all had elite QB play. So, again, why do we not knock them for having great QBs, but with McDermott, all of his success is Josh and he would be terrible without Josh. There's no proof of that. He had an excellent run as a DC in Carolina, his one year as HC w/o Josh he took a bad team to the playoffs, besides last year, his defenses have been top 5 in scoring against, turnovers, etc. for like 5-6 years. If he were fired from Buffalo, he would be hired by another team very quickly. Just seems to me that there is more evidence that McDermott is a very good coach who is elevated by Josh, rather than a bad coach who would be nothing without Josh. And no, helping to find and develop Josh does not give McDermott a free pass by any means, but he also wasn't just a lucky bystander in the whole process, as some like to post.

He is suffering an mental illness but really on the other hand, he brought it on himself.

More good news.

I don’t take joy in anyone’s unfortunate circumstances regardless of what type of person they may be or portray to be. I wish that brother the best, hopefully he can find some happiness in his life!

I just checked, he has posted ELEVEN straight posts in the "Trump's lips are moving" thread. Talk about talking with yourself. What a child.

He has been unstable since high school. His antics are well documented.

My guess is this is just about a rehash of Brown's widely reported Chapter 11 filing last year rewritten to make it sound like it is new or, quite possibly based on MLFootball's reporting standards, they didn't even know or care whether it is new or not.

No I guess what I’m asking is about the “what Carolina believed” part