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Williams falling over certainly didn't help the cause.

I can totally see him winning OPY if he keeps this up. And - If we are being truly honest about "MVP" in terms of the MVP race, and by honest meaning not just putting every QB we can on the list - then I find it hard to not list Cook as 2nd behind Allen right now. Lamar? 1-3 and missed plenty of throws and plays in all 3 losses despite his great overall personal stats. Mahomes? 2-2 and he hasn't been having an MVP level season thus far. Herbert? Just blew a critical opportunity to hold on to a 2 game lead over KC and was the reason he lost to a bad Giants team missing its best weapon and starting a rookie QB in his first start ever. No RB has much of a chance to win MVP (we have seen as much in recent years) - but I cant really put another player 2nd behind Allen right now who has meant more to their teams start than Cook.

And inflation increases. No such thing as a free lunch.

People keep saying Ray lost weight because he didn't want to be the short yardage back Is everybody sure that the bills weren't sure how long cook was going to hold out and if you didn't practice in the preseason he wasn't going to start in the regular season So maybe they were telling Ray Davis to get his body ready for a fuller load not just a power back role and then cook got his deal and Ray is kind of in limbo Because he cut weight maybe preparing for a bigger role which didn't come

"piqued" mine too!

They had a few stunts later in the game that i noticed to try and muck up the middle a bit more. But I noticed we were a tad more aggressive early on to try and go against tendency during the first drive, and it didn't work. I was on the far end of the stadium so i didn't see the full TV response, but from what i could tell on that 1st timeout he was on the field dragging cords screaming at the refs. Usually imo that means the ref who's supposed to stand there and hold up for substitutions didn't do it correctly. There were also a lot of strange play clock issues that this crew did not have a good handle on.

I think the truth is we'll never know how Worthy would have worked out if drafted by the Bills. If the Chiefs had drafted Coleman he might look like a star in KC. Look at MVS, the Chiefs were able to use him effectively while the Bills weren't able to get him involved in the offense at all.

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Just reading the tread title must be like hearing your named called over the PA at school asking you to visit the Principal’s office. Or 60 Minutes showing up at your office. Nothin’ good is ahead for you.

They were talking about this on Dan Lebatard earlier. Sounded like Salah basically threatened to kill coen

I find it hard to keep Lamar that high after a 1-3 start. I get that its not all his fault, and his stats are strong as an individual. But in all 3 losses, he has missed critical passes to wide open guys or failed to make plays that impacted the outcome of those games. I would honestly put James Cook in the MVP race and above Lamar right now even though a RB has very slim shot at winning it over a QB on any given season. But looking around the league, he is playing better and impacting his team more than many of the guys on the MVP list right now. Herbert is the reason the Chargers lost Sunday to a Giants team starting a rookie QB that also lost their best offensive weapon for the season. I don't think he should be 2nd in the race right now. They had a great opportunity to keep a 2 game lead on KC and blew it to a team they had no business losing too and in large part because of Herbert.

Actually AA++

Probably not...likely they will be somewhere between 10-15th, which is good enough to win a SuperBowl with Allen. The key is that they simply play that way in the playoffs and not like they normally do which is worst defense in the NFL that can't even force a punt.

Grade inflation? If Cook gets an "A" for 107 yards and a short trip to the endzone, how would you grade OJ when he ran for 273 yards and 2 TDs against the Lions? Never mind. I know: "A+"

Bills would have picked Shakir much earlier if, if, if, if

I bet he chews his gum with his mouth open. He’s also the guy that would leave a waiter a crappy tip after running him/her hard.

I didn’t see that until now….. that’s absolutely insane

The idea of Tre as a safety was previously laughed at because he was not tough enough and a bad tackler. Though he’s diminished as a cover man, his tackling has somehow improved as he’s acquired that old man strength. Time to revisit Tre as safety.

You realize that you could just not come in this thread, right?

(it was an old joke)

Don't misunderstand... I think Josh deserves to be the MVP frontrunner. I also think he should have won MVP before last year. If there were a stat that could truly evaluate how valuable a player is to his team, Josh would score high. But there isn't - despite some claims from analytic sites that there is. It's cool that the NFL has an MVP award but the process for picking a winner is inevitably flawed.

This just isn’t true. If the opponents stay in a cover 2 shell - for example last week Miami ran that about 80% of the time per cover 1 - then the running doesn’t open up the deep pass. They refused to adjust so we just kept taking the gains. Running opens up the deep pass if the opponent decides to bring safeties down to stop the run, but teams are more afraid of Josh beating them deep and or hitting 15-25 yard passes than forcing the Bills to take the runs and passes and move down the field in small chunks. In the 80s and 90s teams made that adjustment all the time - now teams like the Bills don’t care if you move the ball slowly - they figure you will make a mistake before us. We will see once the all 22 gets reviewed, but it looks like the Bills tried a few deep shots that killed their drives when just taking the underneath stuff was working. The Int was a perfect throw - the timing and angle was great, but the defense allowed a safety to get there right at the mesh point and make the pick. The only way it will be successful is if the Bills keep it up and teams decide they have to press the short areas. They it opens up windows behind, but that has been very rare so far. I don’t think they need a lot of work - they need teams to try something different. If the Past Josh wasn’t patient and this defense worked. Just go back to the KC game I the playoffs in Buffalo 2 years ago. Just before the missed kick - Josh had Diggs open for a first down and didn’t take it. He held it 3 beats longer tried to fit it into the endzone and Jones got enough pressure to kill it. He and the offense is at their best taking what is there and being patient and when a team like KC comes up - they need to keep doing it. The big plays come when you get Spags to blitz and they cover down - that seems to be when guys like Knox sneak through for he big gains.

Note, he said IN 2 years, not every day for the next 2 years.

Thats fair, and he also might not. I just think people forget the paths of many of our best players here started as equally slow or similarly as slow when they had guys playing ahead of them too and didn't feel they had to rush the younger guy out. And as fans, it can be frustrating when we think the guys out there are not doing that great of a job as it is. Like I was so frustrated watching McKenzie keep starting at slot when he was terrible at it instead of just getting the rookies feet wet in Shakir. But, its just how this regime has done things in a lot of these cases, and in some it worked out (Shakir, Bernard, etc) and some it didn't (Elam, Boogie, etc). All good bud

She asked a fluff question and delivered it with an undesirable tone- imo