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Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
Sierra Foothills replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
The Josh we all know and love. Even years later I have panic watching the dog pile growing in the end zone while his teammates rushed onto the field. I wonder if he was asked about his thoughts at the bottom of that pile... -
OH MY GOD…trannies and wh*res, wh*res and trannies…it is unreal how fixated you guys here are on the two topics of abortion and transgender rights, to the exclusion of so many other important ones like those that I had already mentioned in my previous post! How curious, indeed, it is to see the topics that might stir the most titillation rise to the fore of your conscience! I’ll return to abortion and transgender rights in a second, but first… Your conspicuous failure to acknowledge the genocide in Gaza I find most unconscionable. As soon as the first Gazan hospital was “oopsied” out of existence, you guys should have started to realize that Israel’s response to 10/7/23 was about so much more than hostages or self-defense. Read up on the 1948 Nakba, Israeli apartheid practices since 1967, Israel’s history of bad-faith negotiations since the First Intifada, the ongoing settler colonial violence in the West Bank, and the full details in South Africa’s ICJ report to figure it all out. Anyone who still can’t distinguish between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, or between Hamas support and Palestine support, needs to do more learning and less opining. 19 months into this genocide, both Netanyahu and Trump have replaced the ethnic cleansing dog whistles with foghorns. Take a public moral stance. That’s what Jesus would do. I admittedly have a patchwork understanding of the Bible. I’m genuinely curious to know which specific Biblical passages you all are using to formulate your stances on abortion and transgender rights? I’m sure they’re all super vague, however, and literarily crafted in a way that leaves them open to all sorts of biased interpretations reflecting more one’s personal bigotries than the decrees of God/Jesus… My opinion on abortion is rooted in science and sprinkled with practicality and respect for fellow women. I’m fine with a sentience standard for conferring personhood onto a fetus/unborn baby. France has the best abortion policy, so I would prefer we plagiarize theirs (limit of 15 weeks, constitutional protection, full list of exceptions to be adjudicated by health professionals and not law/order ones). The Catholic Church’s position against abortion in cases of rape is a big initial reason why I chose to quit the Church…something about two wrongs not making a right…ugh… My opinion on transgender rights is also rooted in science and sprinkled with respect for fellow humans who happen to be born a bit differently. Just as we have human sexual dimorphism with chromosomes and reproductive equipment, we know of the same with the morphology and functioning of the human brain. So you can think of the brain as a gender-determining organ just like you do the sexual reproductive organs, and all of these can be incongruent with each other at birth. I’m fine with transgender children fully transitioning, provided they have parental approval and sufficient levels of prior therapy. I’m friends with a few members of the transgender community. According to them, they knew they were different at extremely early points in their lives. OH MY GOD, LEH-NERD!! What makes you think Jesus in 2025 would be apolitical?? And why do you think Jesus would find Bernie to be such a malevolent force on humanity, one presumably far worse than Trump?! Your BOUNDLESS intransigence with me, no doubt, must be some kind of psychological defense mechanism worth exploring. Oh, and my imaginary dialogue? It’s just a posting technique I sometimes use to make my naturally haughty didacticism appear more invitingly dialectical. Do observe… You: “Hi, my name is Leh-nerd Skin-erd. I am a big fat smelly omnivore who enjoys meeting his daily protein requirements by slitting the throats of innocent defenseless animals. I probably hate Kay so much because I can never defeat her in a political debate. Her mastery of public policy is so superior and her posting content so substantive that I have to resort to a barrage of politician hypocrisy whataboutisms and other such non sequitur deflections. Kay is an egotistical know-it-all with an insufferably long-winded writing style.” PPP Subforum: “Woah!! Bruh…why do you hate Kay this much?? We happen to think she’s a great poster with lots of useful insight into the far-left political movement.” BillsFans.com Community: “May we briefly and randomly interject? We find her writings on Buffalo Bills history to be equally quite insightful.” PPP Subforum: “Yeah, and wouldn’t YOU have a bit of an inflated sense of self after so many of your friends keep telling you that you remind them of Hollywood star, Renee Zellweger??” You: “LOL…that’s not exactly advancing your argument, bruh…” PPP Subforum: “Woah!! Oh em gee, you’re such a shallow f*cking misogynist, Leh-nerd…on Mother’s Day, no less! No, we mean the young/pre-cosmetic surgery version of Renee…and minus the Bridget Jones movies when she had to put on a lot of weight for the role.” BillsFans.com Community: “Which kinda brings this conversation full circle, so to speak, since perhaps your underlying hatred towards Kay is due to the fact that you resent how her commitment to a 100% whole-food plant-based diet allows her to rather effortlessly maintain a ~19.3 BMI?“ PPP Subforum: “Indeed. And at that low a BMI, you can greatly expand your sartorial repertoire.” BillsFans.com Community: “Yup. All kinds of crop top options, too, which in the winter makes your fashion ridiculously chic and bad*ss. Certainly more chic than some musty, faded, overstretched Lynyrd Skynyrd t-shirt in which the imprinted lyrical “free bird” could operate as both a physical metaphor for Leh-nerd’s YOLO Dad bod torso and a conceptual metaphor for his dietary intransigence with Kay.” You: “Arrgh! Leh-nerd MAD! Leh-nerd FAT. Leh-nerd SAD. Blah blah blah FAIR SHARE! Blah blah blah HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR IT ALL, KAY?! Blah blah blah BUT WHAT ABOUT JOE BIDEN?! Blah blah blah…!” < belches > < burps > << NARRATOR: In a fit of defeat-induced rage, Leh-nerd maniacally logs out of his Two Bills Drive account and storms off into the horizon. Hours later, a marauding cadre of misfit cannibals pick up a fatigued hitchhiking Leh-nerd off the side of a highway. In a terribly ironic twist of fate, they murder poor Leh-nerd and both literally AND figuratively cook him. This then gives the cannibals an idea to start a dietary protein business called “Soylent Leh-n.” Soylent Leh-n quickly becomes a huge success. The cannibals become powerful corporate oligarchs and exploit their hired labor as LITERAL consumption goods. There is no happy ending to this story, unfortunately, because STUPID Leh-nerd Skin-erd voted for the STUPID corporate deregulatory practices of STUPID Donald Trump. >> P.S. Just playin’ with ya, Leh-nerd. Have a great Mother’s Day! And remember: veggie chips, not paint chips!
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That's kinda our point. Everyone does this. It isnt rocket surgery. So there is no (far less) reason for fans to be up in arms with that $15M/yr avg number. All the agent and player really care about when it is all said and done is Guaranteed Money. The "average", and how it all plays out is secondary. We all can agree there are lots of ways to manipulate the contract payouts, that are already standard procedures, that mitigate the hits. Even your example of 3/$45M with lets say $30M guaranteed is essentially a 3/$30M contract for those worried about dead money. So why are people gnashing their teeth over a comment of "15 mil year"?
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If he's decent in coverage then I heard wrong and I'd agree that his experience would make him the better candidate.
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Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
BADOLBILZ replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
Beane colors his stories to accentuate his positives. I understand that some of you can't see that but that's because he's good at it. I've said it since he got here, he isn't much of a scout but he is a GREAT executive. And that's what the Pegula's needed more than anything back in 2017. But consider the simple fact that it's 2025 and he had to go on WGR and say "it's 2018 all over again with you guys". Because he hasn't drafted a single difference maker since then. With all due respect to Ed Oliver and Greg Rousseau they aren't in that category. Cook is a RB so you aren't necessarily even going to see him on the field on 3rd and long with the game on the line(as we saw in the AFCCG). They don't have a 2-4 man core of difference makers like most championship contenders.......as McDermott lamented at seasons end. -
Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
SoMAn replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
There’re been a lot of blue chip QB misses, just ask the Browns and the Jets. Those two franchises have spent numerous first round picks over the past 25 years or so on QBs they thought would be their ‘franchise QB’ to come up empty at each attempt. It took the Bills over 20 years after Jim Kelly’s retirement to find an elite signal caller. Finding ‘that guy’ is a GMs biggest challenge. If Beane never made another good decision, getting Josh I was enough to secure his legacy in Buffalo. -
Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
Doc replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
Yeah, out of the top 6 spots, only the 4th (Browns' 2nd pick in that draft) was possibly in play. Beane had a deal with the Broncos for 6th overall if Chubb wasn't there and when that fell through he traded into 7 when the Bucs were on the clock. So the question is whether he could have gotten to 4th overall, but I think the Browns were looking to rebuild quickly and get the best CB. -
Thanks much for the clarification. I see your point now. You have better knowledge of economic theory than myself. The one thing I’m confident about is that a group of corporate elites will mightily enrich themselves along with Trump during his term. Lower income Americans will struggle due to the various impacts of the Trump tax. During this period and after, there will be a battle of ideas on what to do differently and those wealthy elites will push their corporate propaganda on the public and through the halls of Congress to prevent change. Here is the chart I think you are referring to. One of Trumps advantages (?) is that he speaks at a fourth grade level. He does not speak about logical, rational, realistic solutions to issues. He does not explain complex issues. Instead his speech connects to many people’s emotions. Immigrants are rapists and murderers, Mexico will pay for the wall, America is getting ripped off by other countries, tariffs will force other countries to pay us billions and billions of dollars, we will be richer than ever before, etc. His message is unconstrained by reality. Trump has proven that a lot of the undecided Americans, who do decide elections, believe these types of emotional messaging. Dems need to find a simple message and a messenger who speaks below college level language, to connect with the common, uninterested voters. They shouldn’t fall into the trap of campaigning on rational programs for real problems (CHIPS act was that) as the voters who decide elections don’t care about that. Their message needs broad appeal and drop the group identity politics. Given the nature of their supporters, that will be a challenge.
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Forrest has done it (though a bit ago) in the NFL is why. In 2022 (second season) he started 11 games and had a coverage rating of 75.4. Not sure what his run defense was like but that rating would be so much better than any of our safeties last year. He got injured and then new coaching regime. I think it’s more likely he puts it together than a 5th round rookie (though I’m also high on him and prefer him to rapp or Hamlin). Not too much about Hancock from rookie camp. I think preseason will be super interesting to evaluate him.
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Do you believe Superbowl this year?
hondo in seattle replied to Billsfed1's topic in The Stadium Wall
With 32 teams, the average NFL teams have a 3% chance of winning the Super Bowl. The best teams have a more-or-less 10% chance. The Bills are one of those teams again this year. Sadly, the Chiefs defy the odds with their improbable combination of luck, a good GM, good offensive head coach, good defensive coordinator, and HOF QB. -
Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
BADOLBILZ replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
I would say feeling "great" about a player is the equivalent of feeling 'sure' so that's splitting hairs. The Cordy Glenn trade up was a heist. Moving up 11 spots using a solid veteran with one kidney seemed like a George Allen trade from the 1970's when college player evaluation was much less scientific. Getting a pick at the top of the 3rd round for Tyrod Taylor as well. Getting up to 7 was a relatively easy move. 7 shouldn't have gotten it done though. Allen was the type of high ceiling QB who goes #1 overall more years than not. Warts and all. It took an astonishingly stupid move by John Elway and Denver to allow Allen to fall there. I had followed Allen's season and it was no secret that Elway was personally scouting him. There was a lot more luck involved than brilliance in getting him at 7. But Beane has my eternal gratitude because he actually did what I had been imploring Bills GM's to do forever. Pick a QB with that very first pick and run with it. The argument about whether it would have been worth the cost to move up more if it meant more premium picks should be in perspective when it comes to the QB position. The people who seem to over-value those picks the most are the people who follow the draft casually. Which is the majority of fans/media. I know for a FACT that a 1st round pick is the most overrated personnel chip a team has. Casual followers just have short memories about the picks. Not having #1 picks is not certain disaster. The McBeane Bills have overcome a ton of very disappointing 1st and 2nd round picks. Those misses aren't why they haven't won a SB. -
Any liberals here a member of antifa??
Wacka replied to outsidethebox's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Antifa- the SDS of the 20s. Both use words in their titles that are opposite their aims. -
Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
Low Positive replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
Burrow. But in general, you’re correct. Most of the great ones have some aspect of their game that can be improved. -
I think the guarantee will be less than that. I think somewhere around $21/22m.
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Correct and I think Beane and McDermott are counting on this too. Plus, Samuel looked a ton better at the end of the season when he was healthier (remember the TD vs Denver in the playoffs).
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How can you say Cleveland is screwing up? They finished with the second worst record in the league, then fleeced the Jags out of next years first round pick. They are well-positioned to grab a QB in next year’s draft. And it’s not at all clear to me that they are trying to win games in 2025.
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Happy Mom's Day Mup! Thanks for your kind words last year while I was going through my medical ordeal. Only struggle now is to lose weight I gained from the prednisone i have to take, everything else is fine. Don't get riled up from PPP, it's not worth it.You probably won't run into nybody from here in real life, so F'em.😀 The only people I have met are mead (at Hammer's lot), Mark Vader (was in the SJ Bills Backers with him) and Exiled in Illinois (his father grew up down the street from me and his mom worked with my dad- we had a couple beers when he came back to visit once).
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I was looking at that and saying "they need to install 60,000 of those suckers!" And I'm sure some are more elaborate.
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Right. But everyone does this. Cook and his agent will surely negotiate for all of year one and probably most of year two being guaranteed. Otherwise, they won’t accept a completely silly fake contract. My suspicion is that they would sign 3 for $45M with 28M+ guaranteed today. We can manipulate the cap number from there, but that would still be the contract.
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Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
PromoTheRobot replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
Just curious, when was the last time a can't-miss QB in the draft panned out as expected? Seems to me it's the guys with questions that turn out better. -
Beane elaborates on the process of picking Josh Allen
GaryPinC replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't agree WRT manipulating the fans about how much they liked Allen. Giants still had Manning and wanted to grow the ground game to support him. He couldn't knock CLE and NYJ out of their spots, so he was going to have to wait on those picks anyways. Indy wasn't in the QB market and it sounds like Beane had enough Intel from Elway that theirs wouldn't be a QB. He took a chance with Denver. He may have also felt Lamar had a chance to be great, we don't know about that. Also, Beane still had a franchise to construct so he wasn't going to mortgage their future picks too soon. I have no problem taking Beane at his word on their Allen view pre-draft. -
Why Forrest over Hancock? From what I've read, Forrest isn't the greatest cover safety. BTW, any word about the 2nd day (yesterday) of rookie minicamp?