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I mean, two years ago Brock Purdy was right near the top of the odds w CMC and potentially could have won it, if he hadn’t laid that egg against the Ravens. If Brock Purdy can get strong consideration for MVP, Jalen Hurts and his tush push make for a live bet too.

Still have worn no Bills gear for every game. It’s just collecting dust in my closet.

Why am I feeling the return of Haack is coming?

Just let Josh punt. If Slingin' Sammy Baugh could do it, why not Josh?

Same clothes all 4 games without washing (can’t wash away the karma). Two Sahlen’s (found Sahlen’s here in Indiana!) with Ted’s sauce and onion, one beer before and one during the game. Sit in the exact same chair and ring the Bills’ cowbell with each TD.

Despite the protestations of all within nose-shot (like earshot?... no?... then what?) I again refused to wash my old, used-to-be-red Bills hat. I don't wear gear during the game since I've determined at gametime it's all jinxed, but this is my favorite piece of Bills apparel at other times. I wear it a lot. I sweat a lot. It doesn't smell good. It's bad enough that it's starting to make me think twice about wearing it because whatever is hiding in the band in the hat mixes with my sweat and is now like gasoline in my eyes... really bad smelling gasoline. But the football gods have spoken... it is not to get thrown in the laundry until the magic has worn off!!!

Long snappers usually don't block the initial rush at all, right?

I agree. Our WR group is below average. Shakir is almost invisible during games. This”everybody gets to eat” offensive game plan is terrible for a high school team, absolutely ridiculous for a nfl team. Our rookies can’t seem to get on the field, our DL is a joke. Has anyone checked Daquan Jones for a pulse? A corpse falling over would put up a better run defense than that guy. Absolutely dreadful!!! Thank GOD the afc is a joke this year. That might be the biggest thing going for us now.

Because yardage stats are often misleading, and don't tell the whole story. The teams we have played so far are mostly run-first teams (Baltimore, New York, New Orleans), and/or have some of the worst starting QBs in the entire league (New York, New Orleans). Plus, they are absolutely gashing us on the run... so there hasn't been much reason to attack us that way. Again... most teams are going to attack where a team is the weakest. When a team can't tackle, they are going to test you with the rushing attack and short passes that rely on YAC. Plus (as I said previously), we have played against Justin Fields, Tua Tagovailoa and Spencer Rattler -- not exactly guys known for aggressively attacking defenses downfield. Lamar Jackson spent 85% of the game handing off and playing with a big lead. When the opposing QB drops back to pass, he's got a clean pocket and plenty of time (over 2 seconds) to throw. Or the D-Line over-pursues, gives up contain and allows them to take off running. And the secondary isn't doing a good job of defending passes once it's been released. From what I've seen, teams haven't had much trouble throwing when they need to do it, regardless of what the stats say. For example... It won't count in the stat book, but the Saints should have taken the lead yesterday with 9 minutes left. On 3rd-13, we got zero pass rush and Brandin Cooks beat his man. Rattler just made a poor pass. That kind of play counts as a positive stop for our pass defense, when it was really just a bad job by the quarterback. My worry is that our schedule doesn't really give the defense much of a real test, and stats are going to be skewed most of the season. Our next three opponents are Drake Maye, Michael Penix and Bryce Young. Very good chance our passing rankings will be pretty good by the end of the year. And then we head into the postseason to face Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson.

I think the LS on that game was a DeOssie they recruited from the couch to fill in. And, weirdly, the fire drill would have resulted in a TD pass but the receiver got a smoked before the ball arrived.

Is this true? Did he ask the people that?

Madibuke is out for the season. Huge loss for them. KC is now the main foe for 2025.

So Bad Bunny is the reason why Happy Gilmore II was such a horrible movie?

Rapp looks lost often. He is not hitting like last year. He’s taken bad angles and missed many tackles. Last year Rapp was probably our best tackler. Not this year

He is a rookie in a DT rotation so he isnt going to get a lot of solo tackles in his first 4 games. Picking on that one stat is a bit ridiculous imo.

We warned you...... repeatedly...

Hurts had zero second-half completions yesterday, and Philly still beat an undefeated team on the road.

At this point I'm over what we do in the regular season. Maybe that's irrational but we are as super bowl or bust as a franchise can get IMO. I see a team that has the same fatal flaws it has had for the last 5 years. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I fear the defense is going to get lit up again in the playoffs and no matter what 17 does we're going to lose in the divisional/AFCG like we do every year. That is just the ceiling with Beane/McDermott IMO.

If you make eye contact with him you will completely forget he ever existed for 30 years.

And here's the post game fall out lol. Video posted in story. https://talksport.com/nfl/3596496/kyle-shanahan-liam-coen-robert-salah-jaguars-sanfrancisco-49ers/

I don't think the talent is as good as we all think it is. They have a reputation as a good drafting team, so when a player is drafted by them his assessment goes up a few notches. Also, whenever they make a move it is seen by fans around the league as a good move, even it was a move that would be questioned if another team made it. Even the professional talking heads are guilty of this. It's circular thinking. Like "The Ravens made a move, and it must be a good move because the Ravens make good moves." Exhibit one of this would be the response here when they signed Jaire Alexander. Now their fans know better, of course, because they live with the team day in and day out. They are really angry at Eric DeCosta, who everyone here thinks is without flaw, for drafting a safety and neglecting the offensive and defensive lines. They also have a reputation having a really good and physical defense. It can take years for that perception to shift in the eyes of the public. Look at how long it took for people to stop assuming that the Steelers defense would be good.

He's throwing for 152 ypg right now. That's too low to be an MVP.

My thought is on Bobby Babich. Is it time to get concerned? When Frazier and Mcdermott ran the D, we had injuries, we played backups, but we always finished top ten in most categories. Since Babich has taken over it feels like a slow decline into total mediocrity and lack of identity, not unlike that second year with Dorsey when eventually the offense just hit a wall and was done. I remember at times when Frazier would struggle, McD would step in and help get the ship righted. Will that happen here and how much leash is left for Babich at this point? Or was our past success really just having an incredible secondary in their prime?