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Eaaasy with the old jokes there Danialson!! 😃

What's next. Are Charles Romes and Mario Clark going to visit the Bills.

Hamlin was not good last year - but there was a number of factors on the defense last year. Douglas losing a step and looking nothing like the 2023 version. TJ missing some time and Cam lewis being an inadequate replacement Williams replacing an injured milano and struggling in pass coverage to the point they used Lewis and Ingram 3rd down dime packages frequently Spector playing almost 300 snaps. Elam playing almost 300 snaps.

So, we may replace Dane Jackson with Dane Jackson. Makes sense

You're correct.

The freakin’ wedding will probably take place during the halftime show.

Of course there is a huge dead-cap hit if he is cut…not sure if that is affected by the timing…if Ogunjobi is cut, he would probably go down as Beane’s worst FA signing ever…

Do we have to get to the 53 first, and then add 2 once the 2 suspensions are effective, or do we get 55 including Hoecht and Ogunjobi?

You and I obviously disagree on the definition of what a ''good player and productive player'' is. In my opinion, a ''good player'' is a starter or deserves to start. A ''productive player'' is a backup or role player. Having said that, from 2018-2024, Brandon Beane drafted 15 players in rounds 2 and 3, and traded away an additional two 3rd round picks for Rasul Douglas and Amari Cooper, which makes it a subtotal of 17 picks. 2018: Harrison Phillips 2019: Cody Ford, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox 2020: A.J. Epenesa, Zack Moss 2021: Boogie Basham, Spencer Brown 2022: James Cook, Terrel Bernard 2023: O’Cyrus Torrence, Dorian Williams 2024: Keon Coleman, Cole Bishop, DeWayne Carter In my opinion, 5 of the highlighted names above of the 15 total names drafted by Brandon Beane are wasted draft picks because they didn't live up to expectations from premium 2nd and 3rd round draft picks. As far as the 2024 draft goes, it's too early to determine whether or not Coleman, Bishop and Carter are worth 2nd and 3rd round picks, but as of today Bishop and much more so Carter, aren't looking good which could very well end up being a total of 7 bad premium draft picks we didn't get a good return on investment on. I changed my mind and listed Rasul Douglas as worthy of giving up a 3rd round pick because he gave us 2 good years as CB2. We drafted Edefuan Ulofoshio with the 5th round pick we received from the Packers in the Rasul Douglas trade. Ulofoshio is a failure and just got released. Amari Cooper on other hand is a wasted 3rd round pick because the return on investment was a pathetic 1 year rental who played a total of 8 games and only got 20 receptions for 297 yards and 2 TD's, and in addition was a ghost in the AFC Championship game when we needed him the most had only 4 catches for 33 yards. By my count, Ford, Singletary, Epenesa, Moss, Basham, and giving up a 3rd round pick in a trade for Amari Cooper, makes it a minimum of 6 wasted draft picks out of 12 from 2018 to 2023. There's a very good odds that it'll end up being 8 wasted draft picks IF Bishop and Carter continues to struggle and not live up to expectations.

Hamlin is a replacement level player, nothing more, nothing less. Every team has replacement level players at the bottom of their roster. It is better than having a player who is a complete liability, and it's just the safety position so not a huge deal. Seems like Bishop has won the job which is great but if we have to go back to Hamlin for any reason we'll manage.

Travis has everything he needs now. He can just relax. Doesn’t even need to go to another Super Bowl.

Personally Lundt showed me more than RVD, I'd prefer the moved him than Lundt.

Looks like they are saving the WR and DT cuts for last.......tough decisions in those two position groups

Bills adding former system guys to their PS for break the glass situations

Just when we finally got rid of Dane Jackson as well. Man we can’t get any breaks can we ?!?!

I thought Hancock was running as safety almost exclusively and Strong at CB exclusively.

I'm with Appoo. Hamlin gets way too much scrutiny because of his health scare. Every team in the NFL -- EVERY SINGLE TEAM -- has backup and special teams level players. That's what Hamlin is. Do you want him starting for your team most weeks? Nope. Is he an NFL caliber player? Absolutely. I mean...hell...he started the majority of the season last year for a team that went to the AFC Championship game and had the 12th ranked scoring defense in the league. And people wanna say he doesn't even belong on an NFL roster? It's silly. As convinced as some people are that the emotional factor around Hamlin clouds the coaches' judgement with regard to his level of play, I'm JUST AS convinced that its THOSE FANS whose judgement of said player is clouded by the emotional factor. I'm convinced that people are way harder on him (for reasons I can guess at, but need not spiral off into and derail this thread) because of what he went through than they'd be otherwise.

Could also be in town on a personal matter or just to get medical treatment.

Thought he was primarily working at CB. I'm easily confused...

In 2022, they had the number 2 defense and he started 13 games. As most people who study the film will attest, Hamlin's a quality backup who can play adequately if need be. He's not there b/c of "charity" or "character," but because he is a solid backup who is a veteran in the system and this idea that he wouldn't be on any other roster is downright silly.

Beane in the 2nd round: 2018: traded as part of the move-up-for-Allen-and Edmunds strategy 2019: Cody Ford, drafted as RT. Bust from that perspective, though injuries may have played a role; started 9 games at G for Bengals last season 2020: AJ Epenesa. Slow start to his career, but signed 2nd contract with the team and seemed to take a step last year 2021: Boogie Basham. Bust from the perspective of quality DE for us. 2022: James Cook. Just signed 2nd contract 2023: O'Cyrus Torrence: thought we liked him? 2024: Cole Bishop. Early to tell, but looking like he doesn't "get it" so far 2025: TJ Sanders: Def too early to tell. So if we give Beane a mulligan on 2018 and a TBD for 2024 and 2025 (which I think we should) we have 5 2nd round picks, 3 good, 2 busts so 60% That's actually rather better than what I believe to be league average for back of the 1st/2nd round, which I think is like 30-40%

Probably Hancock, the other rookie from OSU.

Cap room if we're truly -600k against the cap if we cut Ogunjobi we could free up $3.3 million if I'm not mistaken.

Ya know the phrase "I couldn't care less"? Well, this is a prime example of the perfect time to use it.