Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 This guy is a sasquatch!! 6'7", 315. Above average combine performance...good speed, agility, and quickness for a big fella. It could be an interesting training camp for him. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/joel-bell?id=79531 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I loved this sentence from his profile: "Had an arm span of 34 inches and a hand span of 10 3/8 inches at the combine." Does this mean that his arm span and hand span change AWAY from the combine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 This guy is a sasquatch!! 6'7", 315. Above average combine performance...good speed, agility, and quickness for a big fella. It could be an interesting training camp for him. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/joel-bell?id=79531 He is my pick of a Free Agent that makes the roster this year. He is why I don't think they will bring in another veteran Ol. Let's see how he develops. He is a good Pass blocker. Let's see if he can handle the run blocking and an NFL Bull rush. With those hands if he holds the refs will certainly see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Could you imagine a pass rusher getting head slapped by that dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 can he beat the other bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Ring our Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I see PS for sure. Don't see him making the roster (except for injury) with Walker, Butler, Hangartner, Wood, Levitre, D. Bell, Chambers, and McKinney ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 What makes me feel confident about him is that all of his "weaknesses" can be corrected fairly easily in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 That Gerald Washington kid sounds intriguing. He's 6'5" and 264#, and says he can run 4.64-4.69. A little older at 27, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Another Jerry Crafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax4782 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 His measureables are pretty significant. Seems like the only thing that was holding him back from having a higher rating was the fact that he played in a conference that did not have him playing against elite competition. He seems to have the speed and athleticism to become an excellent NFL tackle, and with the small number of guys on the roster at both guard and tackle, he could make the team. Right now the lines look as follows: Walker-Wood-Hangartner-Levitre-Butler Chambers-D.Bell-Wood-McKinney-Chambers/D.Bell There's really only eight guys on the roster. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills kept him as insurance in case two of their top line get injured. Going into a game with only six linemen would not be something any team would want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I see PS for sure. Don't see him making the roster (except for injury) with Walker, Butler, Hangartner, Wood, Levitre, D. Bell, Chambers, and McKinney ahead of him. IMO, if they try to put Joel Bell on the PS he won't make it out of waivers. "Lindy's Pro Football Draft" magazine has him listed as their; SMALL SCHOOL STUD; Remember Bell's name for two or three years down the road. He has a ton of potential, but it will take some time to unearth it because he got a late start after living overseas. I don't know if it will take him three years to get to be starter material. He got a 29/40 on his first Wonderlic and a 23/37 on his next. He sounds intelligent enough and could develop faster. There's alway some surprise UFA's in every draft. It would be very cool if he was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Another Jerry Crafts? Almost forgot about the "Condo." Thanks. This teams needs a Kelly making up nicknames for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax4782 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 IMO, if they try to put Joel Bell on the PS he won't make it out of waivers. "Lindy's Pro Football Draft" magazine has him listed as their; SMALL SCHOOL STUD; Remember Bell's name for two or three years down the road. He has a ton of potential, but it will take some time to unearth it because he got a late start after living overseas. I don't know if it will take him three years to get to be starter material. He got a 29/40 on his first Wonderlic and a 23/37 on his next. He sounds intelligent enough and could develop faster. There's alway some surprise UFA's in every draft. It would be very cool if he was one of them. Given his measureables, he clearly has that potential. I think the Bills are likely to keep him on the roster as we are thin for depth at G and T, even after the draft. No team should be happy with the idea that they will have to open the season with only 8 total offensive linemen. Further, based on his potential, I think you're right. If Buffalo tries to put him on the PS he won't clear waivers and some other team will pick him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Most likely going to be a practice squadder with good upside potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 If Buffalo tries to put him on the PS he won't clear waivers and some other team will pick him up. Agreed. If it comes down to a numbers game, I can even see a scenario where Chambers could be the odd guy out if Wood and Levitre develop quickly at SJF this summer. I hope Bell responds to NFL-style coaching and speed, and even think he could be more special than "last year's" Bell, given his natural strength advantage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 If Buffalo tries to put him on the PS he won't clear waivers and some other team will pick him up. But, he's an undrafted free agent. Many teams have already decided to pass on him. Something big will have to change between now and then because if another team decides to snatch him up from us, they will have to place him on their active roster. Funny thing is the same thing happened to Peters at one point - we waived him - but no other team picked him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 But, he's an undrafted free agent. Many teams have already decided to pass on him. Something big will have to change between now and then because if another team decides to snatch him up from us, they will have to place him on their active roster. Funny thing is the same thing happened to Peters at one point - we waived him - but no other team picked him up. That's becuse Peters was a 280-pound TE at the time. If Bell shows that he's not out of place at camp this summer, I gotta believe a guy with his movement skills/size ratio will be on some team's radar screen (as also shown by the Bills 3-year contract, which suggests there was something of a mini bidding war for him). Whenever I look at a picture of this kid, I think of Jon Runyan for some reason (granted, I may be overly-optimistic, since Runyan played at a football factory like Michigan and Bell needs time to learn the NFL game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Here's some stuff about him: Link “If you would have asked me last year if he would ever be one of our captains,” Lamb said, “I would have said, ‘No way.’ He’s really changed. He’s a leader for us.” Bell graded out at 88 percent last season against No. 11 Georgia Southern and 87 percent against No. 14 Elon, but his best game was against Wofford when he was successful on 89.5 percent of his blocks. “I hope he has a great year,” Lamb said, “and all the Clemson and South Carolina people say, ‘Why didn’t we recruit him? He was right there in Spartanburg.’' Link It’s easy to imagine the sudden shift from campus life to rigorous football boot camp might be taxing on a young man with big dreams, but Bell revels in the control he has over his own future. “The main thing I like about this is it’s all in my hands now as to whether I make it or not,” Bell said Wednesday by phone from El Paso, Texas, where he’s practicing for Saturday’s third annual Texas vs. The Nation All-Star Challenge. “It’s great to put all your attention and focus into football in trying to succeed. Obviously it is up to other people, but I’m the one who is playing and has to do well. I feel as if it’s all up to me and that gives me comfort.” Link DraftSeason: How big of advantage does your size give you when facing opposing defensive lineman? Joel: Size is definitely an important advantage but combining strength, size and speed is the key to being able to dominate and overpower players. I would say that its actually better to be undersized these days as long as you are strong and fast. ESPN summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Given his measureables, he clearly has that potential. I think the Bills are likely to keep him on the roster as we are thin for depth at G and T, even after the draft. No team should be happy with the idea that they will have to open the season with only 8 total offensive linemen. The Bills have a lot more than 8 OL, even without J. Bell. They have Walker, Butler, Hangartner, D. Bell, Chambers, McKinney, Wood, Levitre, Scott, Denman, Rodd, and Philip. And while the last 3 are no names, so too is J. Bell, until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 IMO, if they try to put Joel Bell on the PS he won't make it out of waivers. "Lindy's Pro Football Draft" magazine has him listed as their; SMALL SCHOOL STUD; Remember Bell's name for two or three years down the road. He has a ton of potential, but it will take some time to unearth it because he got a late start after living overseas. I don't know if it will take him three years to get to be starter material. He got a 29/40 on his first Wonderlic and a 23/37 on his next. He sounds intelligent enough and could develop faster. There's alway some surprise UFA's in every draft. It would be very cool if he was one of them. They said same thing about Peters not passing waivers but he was waived and signed to practice squad first time. Of course Peters did not have the same intellectual capacity Bell supposedly has as rated by Wonderlic. Bell has not had the football training many of his competitors have had not starting football until 10th or 11th grade in 2001. He is a project but unlike some who already have had a lot of specialist training has more room for improvement. He was a Cowboy fan since days overseas so maybe we can get a gem we can trade with Jerry Jones for a 1st, a 4th and latter pick another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Check the Photo of Bell blocking in a drill in todays Buffalo News. I don't know if he can play but he is really built perfectly for an OT. I don't think I have seen a player with longer arms than he has. I already know he has good feet, the big question mark is his toughness and run blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 They said same thing about Peters not passing waivers but he was waived and signed to practice squad first time. Of course Peters did not have the same intellectual capacity Bell supposedly has as rated by Wonderlic. Bell has not had the football training many of his competitors have had not starting football until 10th or 11th grade in 2001. He is a project but unlike some who already have had a lot of specialist training has more room for improvement. He was a Cowboy fan since days overseas so maybe we can get a gem we can trade with Jerry Jones for a 1st, a 4th and latter pick another year. Peters was a fat TE that nobody thought would turn into a PB tackle. I think other teams know he's a project but has all the tools and is going for the same position he played in college. In the ask Tim Graham thread I'll see if he knows how many teams were bidding for his services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Peters was a fat TE that nobody thought would turn into a PB tackle. I think other teams know he's a project but has all the tools and is going for the same position he played in college. In the ask Tim Graham thread I'll see if he knows how many teams were bidding for his services. That's not really true. Peters was supposed to be drafted, and some of the mocks had him going in the third or fourth round. The problem was that teams didnt know what position he was going to play, TE or OT. He wasn't a polished receiver but had good hands. He didn't have good coaching in school. Teams just didnt know where he would play which hurt him greatly but a lot of pundits and draftniks and scouts thought he had a lot of potential at both positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 This guy is a sasquatch!! 6'7", 315. Above average combine performance...good speed, agility, and quickness for a big fella. It could be an interesting training camp for him. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/joel-bell?id=79531 Somebody picked him in the 3rd, in this year's TSW 3 round mock draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 That's becuse Peters was a 280-pound TE at the time. If Bell shows that he's not out of place at camp this summer, I gotta believe a guy with his movement skills/size ratio will be on some team's radar screen (as also shown by the Bills 3-year contract, which suggests there was something of a mini bidding war for him). Whenever I look at a picture of this kid, I think of Jon Runyan for some reason (granted, I may be overly-optimistic, since Runyan played at a football factory like Michigan and Bell needs time to learn the NFL game). May he learn quickly and make us all forget about what's his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 That's not really true. Peters was supposed to be drafted, and some of the mocks had him going in the third or fourth round. Mock drafts are called that for a reason - they are mockeries of reality. At end of 7th day Mel had his "best of players" list and he kept citing players he had listed in low 100s which were not picked by any teams. 32 teams passed on Jason Peters and no team thought he was worth a draft pick for multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 probably practice squad. give him a year to learn and get stronger. he can always be brought up in a pinch. This year Demetrius Bell gets his chance as a regular on the active roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Mock drafts are called that for a reason - they are mockeries of reality. At end of 7th day Mel had his "best of players" list and he kept citing players he had listed in low 100s which were not picked by any teams. 32 teams passed on Jason Peters and no team thought he was worth a draft pick for multiple times. Because they didnt know if he was a TE or OT. If he was a TE and they didnt need one, they wouldn't draft him. If they were looking for a TE but didnt know if he could play it and was better suited to OT, it may have been a wasted pick. There were all kinds of stories on him before the draft being an exceptional athlete without a position, and people on here and other boards and for other teams were clamoring for us to draft him. Then when he wasn't drafted, people were all over the fact of signing him immediately. The point is, he really didn't come completely out of nowhere, he was known to be a huge and athletic player with a lot of skills but no true position and not well coached. Gil Brandt had him rated the 7th best TE http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2004/04/19/3/ He was the #7 TE on scout.com http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&...&nid=776393 #5 on Walterfootball http://walterfootball.com/draft2004P.php The Brandt story was interesting because apparently at the combine, Peters went around telling people that he would rather play tackle than TE and he boasted that he would be the best tackle out of the draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I feel like this exact same story was written 14 years ago, but about this guy: http://www.databasefootball.com/players/pl...lkid=ROCKWMIK01 Bucky Gleason should stick to hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conch Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 That's not really true. Peters was supposed to be drafted, and some of the mocks had him going in the third or fourth round. The problem was that teams didnt know what position he was going to play, TE or OT. He wasn't a polished receiver but had good hands. He didn't have good coaching in school. Teams just didnt know where he would play which hurt him greatly but a lot of pundits and draftniks and scouts thought he had a lot of potential at both positions. I read a lot on Peters prior to his draft. The big knock on Peters, some had as one on the top TE's in that class, is that he was lazy and undisciplined and hated to work out. Only after his senior season when it was time to put up or get a real job up did he go back to U of Arkansas and start working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I feel like this exact same story was written 14 years ago, but about this guy: http://www.databasefootball.com/players/pl...lkid=ROCKWMIK01 Good memory, but Rockwood played at even a lower level of competition and wasn't as athletic as Bell. Stiff as a board, IIRC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy JC Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 His measureables are pretty significant. Seems like the only thing that was holding him back from having a higher rating was the fact that he played in a conference that did not have him playing against elite competition. He faced UNC as a soph, Clemson as a jr, and Va Tech as a sr. Oh, and App St. as a conference rival. Ask Michigan what they think about the competition in the Southern Conference. Yes he was a man playing among boys but when the competition was elite, so was his play. As a Clemson fan it drove me crazy to see our DEs totally stonewalled by this beast. I would rate his chances of making the roster as pretty good. Quality NFL coaching will produce a pro bowl level player in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 So, if both Bells happen to somehow earning starting positions, do we name the offensive line the "Bell Ringers"? Sorry, had to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy JC Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 So, if both Bells happen to somehow earning starting positions, do we name the offensive line the "Bell Ringers"? Sorry, had to say it. If it gets us back to the playoffs we'll call them Bell-issimo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 They could be called Tackle Bells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The Bell Towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The Bell Towers. That's the one. As for an individual nickname for this Bell, how 'bout 'the Townhouse'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 That's the one. As for an individual nickname for this Bell, how 'bout 'the Townhouse'. Not bad. Or if they ever become bookend tackles we could call whoever plays left tackle "The West Tower" and the right tackle "The East Tower." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 The Bell Towers. All I know is that we need more Cow Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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