The KC dynasty is over

[TheFunPolice]

Here's a word of caution: those playoff % stats mean almost nothing, because none of what KC needs is that unlikely. 

 

I wouldn't bet on them making it, but stranger things have happened many times. 

 

I used the ESPN playoff machine and there's a few likely scenarios where they get in. Obviously, now they have to win out and hope LA collapses, which with both tackles out and Herbert with a broken hand isn't crazy. Plus they play them next week. 1 week from today they very well could be 1 game back with these schedules:

 

KC:

Titans

Broncos

Raiders 

 

LA: 

Texans

Cowboys 

Broncos 

 

If LA loses tonight and KC beats them next week then LA will have 6 losses and KC 7. Texans and Cowboys have everything to play for still, so it'll be interesting. 

 

I can't see the Texans or Jaguars collapsing, and both have tiebreakers anyway. It's either LA or KC making it at this point. 

 

[May Day 10]

Their dynasty is over.  Mahomes and Reid could still go on a run in any given season, but them being in the AFCCG every season (or even most seasons) is done.  

 

A lot has to do with the Broncos ending their franchise dysfunction and Sean Payton building a good program, along with Jim Harbough in-division.  Now the Raiders will probably draft Mendoza 1OA.  

The ferrari we knew the chiefs as, with Tyreek, prime Kelce and Hunt is long gone.  Their defense and Kelce as a safety valve kept them great for awhile, but now Kelce is a shadow of his former self, and Chris Jones (their actual MVP) isn't the same.

 

You also have other formidable teams in the AFC, it isnt so top-heavy anymore.  

 

 

And I don't believe Mahomes is as gifted as a QB to carry a team the same way Allen can, or even a healthy Jackson.  

 

 

 

While they can make the playoffs.... Kansas City isnt going to run through the AFC having to try in week 18, and them play on the road in weeks 19, 20, and 21 against better teams.

Edited 1 hour ago by May Day 10

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

15 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Here's a word of caution: those playoff % stats mean almost nothing, because none of what KC needs is that unlikely. 

 

I wouldn't bet on them making it, but stranger things have happened many times. 

 

I used the ESPN playoff machine and there's a few likely scenarios where they get in. Obviously, now they have to win out and hope LA collapses, which with both tackles out and Herbert with a broken hand isn't crazy. Plus they play them next week. 1 week from today they very well could be 1 game back with these schedules:

 

KC:

Titans

Broncos

Raiders 

 

LA: 

Texans

Cowboys 

Broncos 

 

If LA loses tonight and KC beats them next week then LA will have 6 losses and KC 7. Texans and Cowboys have everything to play for still, so it'll be interesting. 

 

I can't see the Texans or Jaguars collapsing, and both have tiebreakers anyway. It's either LA or KC making it at this point. 

 

Yea the Indy win for kc was humongous…Indy bumbling their way to a 2-2 closing stretch wouldn’t be enough if the chiefs win out.  Indy would have to go 3-1 which won’t happen putting it all on the chargers 

 

kc has the tiebreaker over Baltimore also and Miami has one more conference loss.  It doesn’t look like it but it’s almost entirely in the chiefs control still.  The most unlikely thing they need is them winning out (which we did fairly recently in a pretty similar scenario)

 

ooh extra wrinkle…chiefs need chargers to lose to broncos too who might be resting starters depending on the 1 seed situation.  That’s a pretty big one. Chargers win that one and they’ve got the division record tiebreaker with kc 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[SoonerBillsFan]

12 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

They plagued us for years. They are the single biggest reason the Bills and our first-ballot HOF QB don't have at least one Super Bowl ring by now, if not multiple.

I hoped for this last season, but you never know. But now we see it. Kelce, once an unstoppable force and a first-down machine, is now 36, a role player, and very stoppable.

Chris Jones, still makes plays, but is no longer an unblockable terror up the middle. He's good but no longer consistently great.

I'm not saying the Chiefs can't be good or make the playoffs in the next year or two. But the dynasty is over. They are no longer favorites to win it all every year. They will battle for the playoffs now. The 90s Bills are happy (that record run of four-straight SB appearances record should stay intact), the current Bills are happy, and we should be too.

I dont see it as over, I see it as everything cycles. They had their time, now they need to make changes and do a mini rebuild.  As much as I hate to say it, as long as they have Kermit and the Walrus, they will always be a threat.

[dcinmuncie]

don't look now, but the miami dolphins have entered the chat. it's not just la vs kansas city. miami is right there and fighting very hard. 

[TheFunPolice]

Just now, dcinmuncie said:

don't look now, but the miami dolphins have entered the chat. it's not just la vs kansas city. miami is right there and fighting very hard. 

 

Miami beating Pittsburgh next week if the Bengals win vs. the Ravens and Burrow is going to reenter the chat. 

[Captain Hindsight]

4 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

Ha ha he was out for the season injured. Matt Cassell was the QB.

not in 2002

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, dcinmuncie said:

don't look now, but the miami dolphins have entered the chat. it's not just la vs kansas city. miami is right there and fighting very hard. 

Miami almost doesn’t matter to kc…chiefs have to win out anyway and if they do Miami is behind in conference record 

 

if kc dumps a game kc is done and Miami has a shot but Miami can’t really keep kc out if that makes sense 😂

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[RiotAct]

5 minutes ago, dcinmuncie said:

don't look now, but the miami dolphins have entered the chat. it's not just la vs kansas city. miami is right there and fighting very hard. 

for sure.  Props to them for making a season out of it still.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I'm still worried kc could speak into the playoffs and go one one of their patented playoff runs.

 

Still too early for threads like this

[BuffaloBillyG]

They likely aren't making a deep run this year. But to say it's "over" is a bit of hogwash. They could retool and be back next year stronger than ever. Next year will tell the tale better. Is this their new normal or just a blip season...much like the Bills appear to be having this year?

[Donuts and Doritos]

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I'm still worried kc could speak into the playoffs and go one one of their patented playoff runs.

 

Still too early for threads like this

As much as that would suck silver lining is the pats might get them in round 1 😂 I feel like Denver/NE would be sh*tting themselves battling it out for the 1 seed in that case lol 

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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People may laugh, but the Dolphins are currently the better team than the Chiefs. Achane 5 straight games of 100+ all purpose yards. Tua is efficient and Waddle is consistent, but the real story is their defense. They have allowed 13, 13, 17, 10 points for their last 4 games (all Ws) 

 

Of all AFC teams with 6 wins (BAL, MIA, KC) the Dolphins are currently playing the best football, but their remaining schedule is absolutely brutal. I give them a 10% chance of winning out, but crazier things have happened. They need to beat New England. That’s all i really care about. 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by ChronicAndKnuckles

[stevestojan]

12 hours ago, transient said:

If only we had prevented them from drafting Worthy. 

I know this is a joke, but just imagine if we had worthy instead of the lazy manchild we drafted. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

48 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Not that one.  The NSFW one.  

 

"Let's not start..."

Oh yeah...that  one! 😁

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Honestly, their GM may be responsible for doing the same thing that Beane did: invest in sub-par WRs, hope to elevate mostly C and some B level defensive talent, and hang on to aging players. 

Don't forget the KC 'Hire a Con' program.  "Giving reprobates a new start!"

😁

[Gugny]

12 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

They plagued us for years. They are the single biggest reason the Bills and our first-ballot HOF QB don't have at least one Super Bowl ring by now, if not multiple.

I hoped for this last season, but you never know. But now we see it. Kelce, once an unstoppable force and a first-down machine, is now 36, a role player, and very stoppable.

Chris Jones, still makes plays, but is no longer an unblockable terror up the middle. He's good but no longer consistently great.

I'm not saying the Chiefs can't be good or make the playoffs in the next year or two. But the dynasty is over. They are no longer favorites to win it all every year. They will battle for the playoffs now. The 90s Bills are happy (that record run of four-straight SB appearances record should stay intact), the current Bills are happy, and we should be too.

This reminds me of the 10 or so consecutive years when people kept saying the Patriots/Brady were done. 
 

They weren’t even close to being done. 
 

Neither are the Chiefs. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

People may laugh, but the Dolphins are currently the better team than the Chiefs. Achane 5 straight games of 100+ all purpose yards. Tua is efficient and Waddle is consistent, but the real story is their defense. They have allowed 13, 13, 17, 10 points for their last 4 games (all Ws) 

 

Of all AFC teams with 6 wins (BAL, MIA, KC) the Dolphins are currently playing the best football, but their remaining schedule is absolutely brutal. I give them a 10% chance of winning out, but crazier things have happened. They need to beat New England. That’s all i really care about. 

 

 

Conference loss behind kc though so if kc wins out there’s nothing Miami can do 

 

they lost the head to head with Baltimore also…if they win out it still might not be enough 

 

they may be the best of the 3 but it will probably be too little too late 

Edited 48 minutes ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Captain_Quint]

[transient]

8 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

I know this is a joke, but just imagine if we had worthy instead of the lazy manchild we drafted. 

🤔... 🤔... wait... I can see it now... his name... it's on a list somewhere... next to... Hoecht... Carter... and, I think, Jackson?