A Few Thoughts about the Texans Game - Community Edition

[PatsFanNH]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

We passed up two FG attempts because the defense had us on our heels from the start. You absolutely cannot spot Davis Mills and that horrendous offensive cast 20 points in the 1st half. Good for them for pulling it together in the 2nd half but that is too little too late. This needed to be a game our defense controlled from the start.

Huh?  So the Defense made your HC be dumb and pass up points because he was listening to analytics instead of comman sense football? Hmm ok

[Andy1]

I’m not a fan of this defense, but they did give the offense plenty of chances in the 2nd half against a bad Houston offense. The offense could never control the line of scrimmage. Brady couldn’t scheme anything besides the big toss back play. Coaching scheme is such an important part but we always seem to lack in that department. 

[billsfan714]

Another part of me thinks the FG attempt we turned down.....would of been a long one...and Prater missed an xtra point...but if he attempted and hit that in a dome...then we could of gone for a FG to win at the end.   But I have no idea on what Praters pregame max was in warmups.   Its amazing the injury bug has even affected our kicking game.   This could of been an escape with an ugly win other wise.  As ugly as it was.

[Jerome007]

7 minutes ago, Virgil said:

If the Texans was even remotely healthy on offense, we are losing by double digits.

And if the Bills had  Oliver and Hoecht, if Bernard was healthy, and so on. To say nothing of Kincaid. I can't understand you "fans" that act like bitter wives. Excuses are good for other teams but not for the Bills? The Bills O was rated #2  yet you act like it's a tire fire. As if the other teams were running on all cylinders. 

Did Palmer even play before that 4 & 27? Dude needs to step up! But.. what a play that was! Too bad it was all for nothing. 

That and the misdirection in the 1st half, and the great timing of the screen to counter the blitz, etc. were good stuff. But one we should expect from an OC on the regular. The lack of help to the OLine, like using SOME max protection, 6th linemen, whatever, I just don't get.

[Wayne Cubed]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

We passed up two FG attempts because the defense had us on our heels from the start. You absolutely cannot spot Davis Mills and that horrendous offensive cast 20 points in the 1st half. Good for them for pulling it together in the 2nd half but that is too little too late. This needed to be a game our defense controlled from the start.

This is where I’m at. Yes the offense is frustrating and played badly as a whole but that’s what this game was always going to be. Going on road. #1 defense. It was going to be tight. And you let Davis Mills carve you up in a 2 min drill before half time? After you just went ahead? 

[Virgil]

Just now, Jerome007 said:

And if the Bills had  Oliver and Hoecht, if Bernard was healthy, and so on. To say nothing of Kincaid. I can't understand you "fans" that act like bitter wives. Excuses are good for other teams but not for the Bills? The Bills O was rated #2  yet you act like it's a tire fire. As if the other teams were running on all cylinders. 

Did Palmer even play before that 4 & 27? Dude needs to step up! But.. what a play that was! Too bad it was all for nothing. 

That and the misdirection in the 1st half, and the great timing of the screen to counter the blitz, etc. were good stuff. But one we should expect from an OC on the regular. The lack of help to the OLine, like using SOME max protection, 6th linemen, whatever, I just don't get.

 

My god, Hoecht played 6 quarters.  Also, Oliver and Hoecht are pass rushers who come off the field on expected runs.  We didn't have Kincaid, they didn't have their number one receiver.  Jones and Walker are our two best interior run defenders.  We still had Bosa and Groot on the ends.  I'm sorry, but I'm not blaming injuries for this game.  

[Bermuda Triangle]

36 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said:

Dawson Knox was wide open on the last play. Wide open. 

It was OPI...that's why Knox was wide open.

[BillMafia716ix]

Defense gave the offense too many chances in the 2nd half to win this game.  
 

[billsfan714]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

This is where I’m at. Yes the offense is frustrating and played badly as a whole but that’s what this game was always going to be. Going on road. #1 defense. It was going to be tight. And you let Davis Mills carve you up in a 2 min drill before half time? After you just went ahead? 

I was thinking pregame dont pass up FGs.    You're on the road against a very good defense, take points.  Dont Dan Campbell it.   Good teams win

ugly close games.

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

I guess where I stand is getting one offensive TD is probably gonna lose you 95% of football games

 

Yeah so where I've gotten to is this staff gives us nothing on defense and they give us nothing on offense. It's just utterly generic NFL coaching on both sides of the ball, and the GM made the fatal mistake of investing in his vanilla coach over his generational QB. McDermott got everything he wanted and he needs to own this mess.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

23 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Yeah, Dawkins has noticably regressed this year IMO. 

I don’t want to be that guy, but this dude is ALL over the media, holding rallies and drifting events … and his play on the field has suffered 

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah so where I've gotten to is this staff gives us nothing on defense and they give us nothing on offense. It's just utterly generic NFL coaching on both sides of the ball, and the GM made the fatal mistake of investing in his vanilla coach over his generational QB. McDermott got everything he wanted and he needs to own this mess.

Couldn't agree more with you as you're spot on

Edited 1 hour ago by BillsFan130

[Shortchaz]

I gave McDermott 10 games to do something with the talent at his disposal on defense this year and he hasn’t produced. He’s moved from a neutral impact to a negative impact in my estimation. I.e. he’s sliding from an average coach to a below average coach. he’s frankly been here too long by about 3 years. 

[Uncle Stucky]

38 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Trying to sleep tonight is going to be fun!

Why? Are you a child?  It’s a football game. Multi 100 millionaire Josh is going home to get a blowie from one of the hottest movie stars in the industry. 
 

It aint that serious 

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, Uncle Stucky said:

Why? Are you a child?  It’s a football game. Multi 100 millionaire Josh is going home to get a blowie from one of the hottest movie stars in the industry. 
 

It aint that serious 

 

Thank you, I needed that

[Jerome007]

7 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 I'm sorry, but I'm not blaming injuries for this game.  

The point is not to blame the Bills injuries for the loss. But that you make their play worse as the Texans were not fully healthy. 

[In Summary]

46 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I don’t think any change is going to happen without Josh speaking up. 

Yes

[RyanC883]

45 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Pagula won't do sh!t. You'd know if you followed the Sabres. Maybe you do idk. 

You are likely correct.  Pegs is Mr. Mediocracy as an owner.  My only hope is that unlike the Sabers, the Bills are a nationally followed team, and McD will be on national hot lists along with Bean,  and for good reason. 

[HappyDays]

39 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

A Defensive head coach who can't stop Davis Mills Or Penix lol. Almost laughable at this point 

 

Penix is a great callout. Atlanta was another game where "the defense gave the offense a chance in the 2nd half." Another game of too little too late when you give up almost historic production in the 1st half. And then inevitably you have fans questioning Allen's decision making and wondering if he's gone Hollywood. I'm so over it. Please just get a new staff in here and let's build this team around the most important person in the organization.

[SectionC3]

12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah so where I've gotten to is this staff gives us nothing on defense and they give us nothing on offense. It's just utterly generic NFL coaching on both sides of the ball, and the GM made the fatal mistake of investing in his vanilla coach over his generational QB. McDermott got everything he wanted and he needs to own this mess.

Mess is the perfect word.  Josh is wasting his time with this group.   No rhythm or imagination on the offensive side.  Defense is hard to watch.  There’s gonna be at least one coordinator on the way out.  And I’m wondering if one of Beane/McD goes too.