NFL International Series has been a huge success

[JP51]

22 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

New England gets Baghdad......

I second this

[RiotAct]

33 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

This is how it should be.  Toronto is a big enough market for a game every year.   I volunteer the Bills to play one neutral site game there a year 

ban-hammer for this guy!!!

[The Red King]

Doing well as a curiosity does not guarantee doing well as a regular 17-game team.

[17islongenough]

6 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

ban-hammer for this guy!!!

Would you rather them travel to Europe once a season? 

[Sojourner]

15 minutes ago, Metal Man said:

 

And yet, it never actually appeared that way as far as crowd noise went.

 

During the actual games it was a neutral crowd at best and sometimes even an away crowd as it appeared to draw a good amount of Canadians who just wanted to root against the Bills. 

 

8 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

I don’t think any of these guys would be playing for their current teams for free.  It’s all about the money.  Seattle is already tucked in its own corner of the U.S., players on that team have to make flights to the east coast all the time.

Talking from the perspective of logistics and player routines. It isn’t neutral for the Bills. 

[BearNorth]

31 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

The Chiefs get North Korea.

Pyongyang does have the largest stadium in the world...seats 150K.

[Simon]

10 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Seattle is already tucked in its own corner of the U.S., players on that team have to make flights to the east coast all the time.

 

I might be hesitant to compare a 5 hr flight once a month to a 15 hr flight every other week.

That would be enough for me to never want to play for a team based in Sydney, Hong Kong, Berlin, Tokyo, etc.

Just now, BearNorth said:

Pyongyang does have the largest stadium in the world...seats 150K.

 

I like where this is going....

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-international-series-slate-has-been-a-huge-hit-this-season-global-expansion-incoming/ar-AA1QLNDD?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=691f372169eb4df2a6b24f41b1283d25&ei=14

 

I wonder if the league will look at expansion for a team outside the US.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

 

i have some doubts as to the “huge hit” of global expansion. Maybe the viewership for these games is up because there is literally no competing sports program on TV at 9 am on Sunday morning. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

10 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I might be hesitant to compare a 5 hr flight once a month to a 15 hr flight every other week.

That would be enough for me to never want to play for a team based in Sydney, Hong Kong, Berlin, Tokyo, etc.

 

This is probably why there’d need to be a European division.  Then at least six of these teams’ game are in closer proximity.  Then out of their other 11 games, they’d need to travel to the U.S. for 5 to 6, plus any playoff games.

[BigDingus]

1 hour ago, Brand J said:

They shouldn’t expand teams and make the numbers all wonky. 32 is perfect as is. Just move the Jaguars to London.

 

I think it'd be cool if they expanded to 40 teams. 

 

The NFL is popular enough that they could put a franchise anywhere & have success. They could drop a team in El Paso or Omaha & probably sell out every single game, and TV ratings would be high regardless of where the team is. The issue is obviously the amount of revenue that an owner can extract from that market though, so they'd obviously want bigger markets than those.

 

But still, you could find 4 x European teams to create a new division (if you wanted to go that route to limit travel distances), along with 4 new teams in North America, whether it be 1 in Canada + 1 in Mexico + 2 in the US, or they could just drop 1 new team in each existing division. 

 

Of course, that'd be a huge undertaking & never happen, so I think we'll just get international games for all eternity. Either that, or a team will be relocated at some point.

[Paup 1995MVP]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

They are currently renovating the Stadium in Jacksonville in ways that make it a new facility for all intents and purposes. They are going nowhere.

The stadium is a dump.  And for whatever reason they don’t seem like a real NFL team.  Or a real NFL city.  The biggest thing going there every year is the Georgia-Florida game.  And their uniform colors are horrible.  
 

I think I am still bitter from the playoff loss in 96.  Can’t get that image of Jimbo being carted off the field w a concussion.  🥲🙄

[BritBill]

A couple of the London games didn’t sell out this year. 

[Brand J]

13 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

I think it'd be cool if they expanded to 40 teams. 

 

The NFL is popular enough that they could put a franchise anywhere & have success. They could drop a team in El Paso or Omaha & probably sell out every single game, and TV ratings would be high regardless of where the team is. The issue is obviously the amount of revenue that an owner can extract from that market though, so they'd obviously want bigger markets than those.

 

But still, you could find 4 x European teams to create a new division (if you wanted to go that route to limit travel distances), along with 4 new teams in North America, whether it be 1 in Canada + 1 in Mexico + 2 in the US, or they could just drop 1 new team in each existing division. 

 

Of course, that'd be a huge undertaking & never happen, so I think we'll just get international games for all eternity. Either that, or a team will be relocated at some point.

It would be an extremely watered down league. Eight extra franchises? That’s approximately 424 more players on rosters. At that demand, practice squad players would have to be starters.
 

If they want to build an eight team league in Europe and hold an extra playoff spot in each conference for the two teams that emerge with the best record, that might be worth looking into. All of those European teams would have to travel to the US for weeks at a time playing their American counterparts. Or make them all travel at once and get those games out of the way before they head back overseas, I don’t know. Nightmare logistics. 

[T.E.]

50 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

I don’t think any of these guys would be playing for their current teams for free.  It’s all about the money.  Seattle is already tucked in its own corner of the U.S., players on that team have to make flights to the east coast all the time.

Yeah, but every team in their division is in their timezone (Arizona technically is an hour ahead the last half of the year).

 

You'd be asking a London team, for example, to sit on a plane longer than the Seattle to Miami flight for every away game.

Edited 1 hour ago by T.E.

[Fan in Chicago]

36 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Pyongyang does have the largest stadium in the world...seats 150K.

Not according to an internet search. https://www.mastt.com/blogs/biggest-stadiums-in-the-world

 

Largest stadium by capacity is Narendra Modi Stadium, Ahmedabad, India. Capacity = 132,000

# 2 is the one you mentioned Rungrado 1st of May Stadium, Pyongyang, North Korea, capacity = 114,000

 

My cousin who lived in India worked in the US for 2 years some 20 years back. He liked NFL Football so much, he still follows the league and the best games of the week. Not sure how much that translates to the rest of the population there. 

 

7 minutes ago, BritBill said:

A couple of the London games didn’t sell out this year. 

If there is an international team, I would like it to be in London just to blow minds of you and @GunnerBill

 

Who would you support then?

[cba fan]

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

I dunno...I distinctly remember hearing an audible "Let's Go Dolphins" chant on TV during the first Toronto game, when we were getting thrashed by Miami. It was probably the lowest point for a franchise that has plenty to choose from.

I just don't get how that team would reasonably compete. Tons of players are not going to want to play there away from all their family while dealing with weird exchange rate issues on their salaries, they would be making transatlantic flights constantly, etc.

players would get paid in USD...and plenty of players willing to play there in order to be in NFL.

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

 

If there is an international team, I would like it to be in London just to blow minds of you and @GunnerBill

 

Who would you support then?

 

I'd support the Bills. Easy answer. If the Bills ever moved from Buffalo and there was a London team already in situ then it might become a question. 

[cba fan]

7 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

 

# 2 is the one you mentioned Rungrado 1st of May Stadium, Pyongyang, North Korea, capacity = 114,000

the head count could be higher...... lol lol lol

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, BritBill said:

A couple of the London games didn’t sell out this year. 

 

They screwed the pricing up this year. Removing the season ticket option and then hiking ticket prices. I'd expect some reversion next year. Because I genuinely think they priced themselves out. 

[BritBill]

8 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Not according to an internet search. https://www.mastt.com/blogs/biggest-stadiums-in-the-world

 

Largest stadium by capacity is Narendra Modi Stadium, Ahmedabad, India. Capacity = 132,000

# 2 is the one you mentioned Rungrado 1st of May Stadium, Pyongyang, North Korea, capacity = 114,000

 

My cousin who lived in India worked in the US for 2 years some 20 years back. He liked NFL Football so much, he still follows the league and the best games of the week. Not sure how much that translates to the rest of the population there. 

 

If there is an international team, I would like it to be in London just to blow minds of you and @GunnerBill

 

Who would you support then?

The Buffalo Bills. 
 

Picking a team and sticking with it is more ingrained in British sporting culture. You make your bed you better lay in it, my friend. 

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They screwed the pricing up this year. Removing the season ticket option and then hiking ticket prices. I'd expect some reversion next year. Because I genuinely think they priced themselves out. 

Booking fees were £40 for a couple of tickets as well.  Priced us out of watching a couple of teams we have little feeling for. Unless they do something to rectify the pricing we’ll only be going to games which our teams are involved in. And that’s just Bills and Cowboys.