Game week thread - Bills at Texans TNF

[gobills404]

27 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose. It's time for him to meet Spencer Brown.

Need Spencer to give him this treatment 

 

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

9 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said:

In the offseason, it’s time to cut Glass Joe Samuel. That guy can’t stay healthy. 

At least IR him and move Davis to the 53.  Maybe a month off would heal him up for the final stretch. But I suspect he'd hurt something in practice. 

 

And yes, move on this off-season. 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Bob Chandler's Hands

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Really??  I had no idea.

Shavers wins vertically often.  Just as he won vertically in preseason.  Shavers runs great routes, blocks, great off script.  Shavers has the longest TD out of our initial 5 WRs.  Watch the film, Shavers impresses.  I don’t see how they can ever elevate Keon over Shavers.  Shavers and Palmer is the best starting 2 WR for Bills

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I cannot fathom how Shakir’s skill set doesn’t translate to being excellent at slant routes. To me he’s the perfect type of player to make 1 quick move and have a step on a guy. I don’t know how we can’t just torch teams on 7 yard slants with Shakir. And he has great hands and is great run after the catch. The guy should be running the Beasley stuff and just shredding teams on the Stevie Johnson slant catch and run

Edited 1 hour ago by Brianmoorman4jesus

[BearNorth]

5 hours ago, PaattMaann said:

 

Rankins ELITE DT?????????? Im interested to know the rest of your elite DT list.....

PFF Interior Defender top 10 through week 11

Cam Heyward

Jeffrey Simmons

Quinnen Williams

Poona Ford

Moro Ojomo

Teair Tart

Derrick Brown

Daquan Jones

Sheldon Rankins

Calais Campbell

 

The Texans also have former Bill Tim Settle graded at #18 who I am sure will be amped for this meeting.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

2 hours ago, eball said:

Given the way many are ball-washing the Houston defense, I fully expect the Bills to put up 400+ and 30+ tomorrow night.

 

Acknowledging the other teams #1 defense is ball washing? Thank God you aren’t the coach. This is the exact mentality that led to losses against world beaters Atlanta and Miami. Buffalo went in there thinking ***** was sweet and got stomped out in their own house. But keep thinking the Texans are a pushover. 

[nosejob]

26 minutes ago, Pete said:

Shavers wins vertically often.  Just as he won vertically in preseason.  Shavers runs great routes, blocks, great off script.  Shavers has the longest TD out of our initial 5 WRs.  Watch the film, Shavers impresses.  I don’t see how they can ever elevate Keon over Shavers.  Shavers and Palmer is the best starting 2 WR for Bills

I was thinking Gabe splitting with Shavers with Palmer on the other side,  or can we go Gabe Shavers Palmer as a 3 wide with a Hawes or Knox?

 

I'm assuming Shakir and Kincaid will be out.  As a side note, depending on numbers, I'd like to give Coleman a chance to redeem himself as a red zone/end zone target. In any case I think Cook and Johnson should have the most targets in Houston.

[MiltonWaddams]

15 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

PFF Interior Defender top 10 through week 11

Cam Heyward

Jeffrey Simmons

Quinnen Williams

Poona Ford

Moro Ojomo

Teair Tart

Derrick Brown

Daquan Jones

Sheldon Rankins

Calais Campbell

 

The Texans also have former Bill Tim Settle graded at #18 who I am sure will be amped for this meeting.

Settle was a guy who had great pedigree coming out of Washington. I expected such big things from him. Too bad he didn’t succeed in Buffalo and we have to watch him succeed elsewhere.

[stevewin]

Putting this here.  Shavers seems like a great dude

 

 

[Pete]

24 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

PFF Interior Defender top 10 through week 11

Cam Heyward

Jeffrey Simmons

Quinnen Williams

Poona Ford

Moro Ojomo

Teair Tart

Derrick Brown

Daquan Jones

Sheldon Rankins

Calais Campbell

 

The Texans also have former Bill Tim Settle graded at #18 who I am sure will be amped for this meeting.

Poona Ford is on that list too.  Beane had a couple capable DTs.  But he had to throw away and waste draft picks on DeWayne Carter and Landon Jackson.

[Joe Ferguson]

Hope we see the sugar high and hero ball Josh where he throws a 50 yard bomb to a fullback. 

[PoundingDog]

48 minutes ago, Pete said:

Shavers wins vertically often.  Just as he won vertically in preseason.  Shavers runs great routes, blocks, great off script.  Shavers has the longest TD out of our initial 5 WRs.  Watch the film, Shavers impresses.  I don’t see how they can ever elevate Keon over Shavers.  Shavers and Palmer is the best starting 2 WR for Bills

So far it seems Sgavers is better against man coverage. There are instances where against zone, he does not know when to sit down and run into coverage. Atlanta game there were a few examples.

[eball]

31 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Acknowledging the other teams #1 defense is ball washing? Thank God you aren’t the coach. This is the exact mentality that led to losses against world beaters Atlanta and Miami. Buffalo went in there thinking ***** was sweet and got stomped out in their own house. But keep thinking the Texans are a pushover. 

Hilarious. You’re right, I’m not a coach, I’m a fan! And guess what, nothing I (or you) say matters!

 

Cheers and Go Bills!

 

[finn]

45 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I cannot fathom how Shakir’s skill set doesn’t translate to being excellent at slant routes. To me he’s the perfect type of player to make 1 quick move and have a step on a guy. I don’t know how we can’t just torch teams on 7 yard slants with Shakir. And he has great hands and is great run after the catch. The guy should be running the Beasley stuff and just shredding teams on the Stevie Johnson slant catch and run

Tell that to Brady. He just figured out that Cook is more useful running wheel routes than sitting on the bench. He's a slow study, Joe. But give him credit: he has a firm grasp of the wide-receiver screen and the stop route. 😕

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

unless the Texans get a D/ST score or a very short field from a turnover, I see them having a hard time scoring more than 21 points, and probably not even 20.

But they're playing against the Bills defense, right? The Bills....defense. 

[Pete]

7 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

So far it seems Sgavers is better against man coverage. There are instances where against zone, he does not know when to sit down and run into coverage. Atlanta game there were a few examples.

True.  Definitely more innate in Shavers than Keon, though.  Shavers is an intelligent player.  IMO it just going for to take playing time for Shavers to learn weak spots in zones.  He’ll figure out I’m guessing

Edited 45 minutes ago by Pete

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, finn said:

Tell that to Brady. He just figured out that Cook is more useful running wheel routes than sitting on the bench. He's a slow study, Joe. But give him credit: he has a firm grasp of the wide-receiver screen and the stop route. 😕

But they're playing against the Bills defense, right? The Bills....defense. 

 

Which is a lot better compared to the rest of the NFL than most people think.  12th in YPG and 15th in PPG.  People act like they are 32nd and 32nd by a mile, and it simply isn't true.  Run D is bad, pass D is really good for the most part.

[finn]

3 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Maybe they use Shavers to stretch the field. 4.38 forty. 

4.59 forty, according to his RAS score. His overall score was 4.37, is that what you were thinking of? Neither number is very good, but Jerry Rice didn't score very well, either. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, finn said:

4.59 forty, according to his RAS score. His overall score was 4.37, is that what you were thinking of? Neither number is very good, but Jerry Rice didn't score very well, either. 

Shavers ran a wind aided 4.37 40-yard dash in high school 

 

That's what he's bringing up

[finn]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Which is a lot better compared to the rest of the NFL than most people think.  12th in YPG and 15th in PPG.  People act like they are 32nd and 32nd by a mile, and it simply isn't true.  Run D is bad, pass D is really good for the most part.

I was being a bit facetious, but when a team is so soft against the run, they create an impression of being weak overall. I do wonder why teams choose to throw when they're gouging the Bills with the run game. 

[Big Turk]

19 minutes ago, finn said:

I was being a bit facetious, but when a team is so soft against the run, they create an impression of being weak overall. I do wonder why teams choose to throw when they're gouging the Bills with the run game. 

 

Bills give up big runs but they are also among the NFL leaders in TFLs too, so they have a very high negative run rate against them.

 

Bills currently are tied for 5th in the NFL with 5.6 per game.  Only teams better are the Browns(7.7), Seahawks(6.9), Vikings(5.9) and Raiders(5.7). Bills tied with Steelers.

Edited 18 minutes ago by Big Turk