AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: If Keon had been sitting morosely on the bench or standing shoulders down in front of the sideline heater, he'd be criticized for being disconnected. You’re probably right about that, so how about he just show up on time and work hard, and then this stuff wouldn’t be an issue 2 Quote
Pete Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Makes it even worse they drafted him and he's made no progress. His actions appear to be that of a meathead. I’d rather see video of Coleman celebrating Bills TD. Hoecht had torn Achilles, and told doctors he was gonna stay on bench, and watch game. He then asked McD if we could go watch with the defense. Hoecht celebrated with Bills jubilantly, with a torn Achilles. If Keon can’t celebrate with his teammates, is dancing on sideline, and was vague in postgame interview if he got the message or not. Not a good look Keon at the very least. Compare and contrast Keon and Hoecht, it’s a massive difference. 2 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Coleman seems to always say the right things in the media but by his actions he is showing he doesn't get it or understand what he is saying Hopefully someone he understands and respects gets through to him, how great of an opportunity playing with Josh Allen really is. Not many young receivers come right out of college and are given an opportunity to be a go to player with a QB the caliber of Allen 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 29 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: You’re probably right about that, so how about he just show up on time and work hard, and then this stuff wouldn’t be an issue Exact-a-Mundo. Show up, work hard, don't take plays off, and give it all he's got, and no one will be slagging on Keon. Quote
Walking Tall Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Outside of an Eric Moulds type takeoff, Coleman will not be a Buffalo Bill next season. Quote
Urban Achievers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 33 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: Outside of an Eric Moulds type takeoff, Coleman will not be a Buffalo Bill next season. Honestly curious if they would cut bait this early. Trade is likely at best a 6 or 7. Would McB take that? Lots of reasons for a yes or no. Quote
appoo Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Not necessarily so, if they call up Gabe again. He was why Moore was a scratch I think. Quote
Walking Tall Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, Urban Achievers said: Honestly curious if they would cut bait this early. Trade is likely at best a 6 or 7. Would McB take that? Lots of reasons for a yes or no. So, what happens next season when/if Coleman is late for another meeting? A 2 game suspension? Tyrell Shavers was on WGR today an admitted that when he found out Friday Coleman wasn’t playing, it altered what he was being asked to do Sunday by a lot. Coleman is a selfish, bad teammate. He can’t be relied upon and his next boo-boo, especially if it comes next season, will fall right at the feet of McDermott and Beane. However, that won’t happen because Keon won’t be here. They will flat out cut him if they can’t find a trade partner. Take it to the bank. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, appoo said: He was why Moore was a scratch I think. I just gave a reason why he might not play. We won't know until the last-minute tomorrow. Quote
nosejob Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I'm not ready to give up on him. He may not be Jordan in the paint, but he can be Rodman in the red zone. Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Why are people wanting to continue to punish a player who has already been disciplined for his actions? Leaving him behind to “teach him a lesson” is just punitive beyond a reasonable measure. “If you want a student to learn math, you teach them math. If you want a student to learn to read, you teach them to read. If you want a student to learn to behave, we punish?” This is a line of thinking that some of you have adopted. Behavior is LEARNED and therefore must be relearned, taught and supported. Consequence plays a role in this but it is not the sole measure needed to get what we need from Coleman. We must remember, this organization WANTS Coleman to succeed (clearly unlike some of you). Therefore, they should be taking the steps to help him mature not driving a wedge between them. In an unrelated example: If an addict who attends meetings relapses, they don’t cut him out of the next meeting. They encourage his participation, pick him up, hold him accountable by building rapport. Relationships matter. Ill get off my soap box now but I hope that those who feel they need to continue to twist the knife think about what the positive and negative results from this might be. 1 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: So, what happens next season when/if Coleman is late for another meeting? A 2 game suspension? I think he gets until training camp. If he continues to display this behavior, he will be cut or traded. 1 Quote
TH3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Why are people wanting to continue to punish a player who has already been disciplined for his actions? Leaving him behind to “teach him a lesson” is just punitive beyond a reasonable measure. “If you want a student to learn math, you teach them math. If you want a student to learn to read, you teach them to read. If you want a student to learn to behave, we punish?” This is a line of thinking that some of you have adopted. Behavior is LEARNED and therefore must be relearned, taught and supported. Consequence plays a role in this but it is not the sole measure needed to get what we need from Coleman. We must remember, this organization WANTS Coleman to succeed (clearly unlike some of you). Therefore, they should be taking the steps to help him mature not driving a wedge between them. In an unrelated example: If an addict who attends meetings relapses, they don’t cut him out of the next meeting. They encourage his participation, pick him up, hold him accountable by building rapport. Relationships matter. Ill get off my soap box now but I hope that those who feel they need to continue to twist the knife think about what the positive and negative results from this might be. Ummm. He has been given ample opportunities to “learn” Leave him in Buff. Guy is a cancer Quote
Einstein Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, nosejob said: I'm not ready to give up on him. That’s only because he’s a Bills player. If he was a Dolphin you would call him a scrub. Quote
milfandcookies Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: What Dion said (or did not say) is factual. The difference between false start and Offside is factual. The complete inappropriateness of your suggestion that a 2nd year player who was just a healthy scratch for disciplinary reasons, taking the mic to call out an 9 year vet for a couple of pre-snap penalties (out of 56 snaps) is really not reasonable matter for disagreement. Diagnosis complete: you're a troll. *plonk* I never ever said Coleman should take the mic and call out Dawkins lol, wtf? Making up arguments to refute here, and I’m the troll lol Quote
Bad Things Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 4 hours ago, milfandcookies said: thanks but I’ll post what I want lol Yeah, we all farkin' know that already. 1 Quote
dcinmuncie Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 36 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Why are people wanting to continue to punish a player who has already been disciplined for his actions? Leaving him behind to “teach him a lesson” is just punitive beyond a reasonable measure. “If you want a student to learn math, you teach them math. If you want a student to learn to read, you teach them to read. If you want a student to learn to behave, we punish?” This is a line of thinking that some of you have adopted. Behavior is LEARNED and therefore must be relearned, taught and supported. Consequence plays a role in this but it is not the sole measure needed to get what we need from Coleman. We must remember, this organization WANTS Coleman to succeed (clearly unlike some of you). Therefore, they should be taking the steps to help him mature not driving a wedge between them. In an unrelated example: If an addict who attends meetings relapses, they don’t cut him out of the next meeting. They encourage his participation, pick him up, hold him accountable by building rapport. Relationships matter. Ill get off my soap box now but I hope that those who feel they need to continue to twist the knife think about what the positive and negative results from this might be. I would agree With this if this were a one time thing it clearly is not and he’s a relatively unproductive second year player given his draft status he hasn’t exactly earned the benefit of the doubt Quote
sven233 Posted 29 minutes ago Posted 29 minutes ago Not sure if it's completely out there yet, but there is talk on X that Keon is down again tomorrow....... With the injuries to Samuel and Hardman, man....what a bad look for Coleman if he can't get a jersey with both of them out. But for me anyway, if this is indeed true which I have every belief that it is, I have no problem with it. Kid is handed an NFL opportunity on a silver platter and if he chooses not to take it seriously and not put in the work it takes to be great, then that's on him. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 15 minutes ago Posted 15 minutes ago 13 minutes ago, sven233 said: Not sure if it's completely out there yet, but there is talk on X that Keon is down again tomorrow....... With the injuries to Samuel and Hardman, man....what a bad look for Coleman if he can't get a jersey with both of them out. But for me anyway, if this is indeed true which I have every belief that it is, I have no problem with it. Kid is handed an NFL opportunity on a silver platter and if he chooses not to take it seriously and not put in the work it takes to be great, then that's on him. Looks like the information trickle has begun. Quote
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