According to Cover 1, Coleman will be a healthy scratch

[BADOLBILZ]

3 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

Could have sworn that I read a few months back that Josh Allen is the one who told the FO to draft Keon Coleman.

 

How does that get lost in all of this, if the case?

 

 

Josh Allen can do no wrong to us.  It's not easy for us to be objective because he is the most likable and great player they've ever had.   But if Josh did influence the pick.......he should be the main player in Keon's ear.   It's hard to reach your potential as a leader if you can't NOT be everyone's best friend. 

[Kelly to Allen]

I personally love having 6 wrs active. I prefer the roster flexibility there

[babulator]

If we can keep him on the bench for disciplinary issues that might salvage some trade value next year. The alternative being he just sucks and doesn't deserve to be on the field. 🤔

[Chaos]

2 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

Could have sworn that I read a few months back that Josh Allen is the one who told the FO to draft Keon Coleman.

 

How does that get lost in all of this, if the case?

Josh seems busy. Doubt he is a scout or asst. GM. AFTER the draft he welcomed Keon aboard and said he was his first choice.  In what world would Allen have said anything else? "Beane screwed the pooch, how the hell did he pass up Worthy and McConkey for this slow poke"

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

2 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

Could have sworn that I read a few months back that Josh Allen is the one who told the FO to draft Keon Coleman.

 

How does that get lost in all of this, if the case?

And,what if he was? he wasn't! who cares he's not the GM or the coach or a scout. 

[GoBills808]

10 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Josh seems busy. Doubt he is a scout or asst. GM. AFTER the draft he welcomed Keon aboard and said he was his first choice.  In what world would Allen have said anything else? "Beane screwed the pooch, how the hell did he pass up Worthy and McConkey for this slow poke"

😂😂We exist in a world where Allen is simultaneously too busy w golf and shooting commercials in the offseason and also somehow scouting college wrs and helping Beane develop his draft board

[GunnerBill]

31 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

😂😂We exist in a world where Allen is simultaneously too busy w golf and shooting commercials in the offseason and also somehow scouting college wrs and helping Beane develop his draft board

 

The whole "Josh picked Keon!" rhetoric is such nonsense. Do I believe Josh was watching clips of that WR class and texting Beane saying "this guy looks awesome!" Sure. Do I believe that either:

 

a) Josh was saying "X guy is my first choice" whether that was Keon or anyone; or

 

b) that Josh had any influence on the pick?

 

 

Strong no to both. Brandon Beane is responsible for the Bills draft picks. I don't know how many other ways there are to say it.

[gonzo1105]

all I know is to this point that highly thought of WR class has been a giant fail. Just mired in inconsistency and disappointment so far 

[Kirby Jackson]

8 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

all I know is to this point that highly thought of WR class has been a giant fail. Just mired in inconsistency and disappointment so far 

As an interesting exercise, I’m curious how you and @GunnerBill would redraft the guys picked in the top 2 rounds? To recap: MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, BTJ, Worthy, Pearsall, Legette, Coleman, McConkey, Polk, & Mitchell are the guys. 

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

As an interesting exercise, I’m curious how you and @GunnerBill would redraft the guys picked in the top 2 rounds? To recap: MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, BTJ, Worthy, Pearsall, Legette, Coleman, McConkey, Polk, & Mitchell are the guys. 

Well my predraft as a reminder was 

 

1. MHJ

2. Odunze

3. Nabers

4. BTJ

5. McConkey

6. Mitchell

7.  Worthy

8. Franklin

9. Legette

10. McMillian 

 

If I had to rerank the guys based on what I’ve seen so far with hindsight

 

1. Nabers

2. Odunze

3. Harrison

4. McConkey

5. BTJ

6. Franklin

7. Worthy

8. Pearsall

9. Coleman

10. Legette

11. Mitchell

 

* I think you have to give Nabers the # 1 spot here. Odunze I’m going to give the slight edge over Harrison for two. I think Harrison can still be really good but I think Kyler Murray really holds him back with his inconsistency. 

 

I think McConkey has earned the right to be # 4 with two consistent seasons so far while BTJ was explosive as a rookie. I could see why someone would take BTJ still over McConkey just based on how explosive he was as a rookie and upside is higher than McConkey. 
 

I think then there is a big separation but I’d have Franklin at 6 as he’s starting to separate from the second group of WRs.  Still not sold on Worthy but after him is kind of a big drop off as he’s had productive games and is more deep shot gadget guy than consistent WR. 
 

Ricky Pearsall would be much higher if he could stay on the field. Obviously getting shot is unexpected but now he got hurt again in year 2. When he is on the field he’s actually been really good. 
 

Coleman, Legette, and Mitchell are interchangeable in my opinion. What type of disappointment do you want? Do you want injury prone, can’t catch but can separate, can catch but can’t separate. Take your choice of disappointing draft pick here 
 

[GunnerBill]

37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

As an interesting exercise, I’m curious how you and @GunnerBill would redraft the guys picked in the top 2 rounds? To recap: MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, BTJ, Worthy, Pearsall, Legette, Coleman, McConkey, Polk, & Mitchell are the guys. 

 

So my ranking at the time was:

 

Tier 1:

1. MHJ

2. Nabers

 

Tier 2:

3. Odunze

 

Tier 3:

4. Legette

5. BTJ

 

Tier 4:

6. Mitchell

7. McConkey

8. Worthy

 

Tier 5:

9. Baker (went much later)

10. Coleman

11. Pearsall

 

I didn't have a top 2 rounds grade on Polk.

 

If I was redrafting today (on the basis of production not health) I'd go:

 

Tier 1:

1. Nabers

 

Tier 2:

2. MHJ 

3. BTJ

4. Odunze

5. McConkey

 

Honestly after that I'd be hard pressed to take any of the others in the first 2 rounds so there is no tier 3 or 4. 

 

 

EDIT: I had Franklin in that tier with Baker and Coleman somewhere. Forgot about him before @gonzo1105's post. And I WOULD take Franklin in round 2. He is still probably tier 4. But on his own and with no tier 3.

Edited 2 hours ago by GunnerBill

[SCBills]

I’d make him active and play him in the slot with Shakir. 
 

I know I’m not in the majority in saying this, but I think we could dramatically improve what we get out of the slot. 
 

Shakir has a role as a Deebo type player, but with Gabe, Palmer and Shavers outside and Samuel playing inside/outside, I’d want to get a look at what Keon looks like as a big slot. 
 

Not sure how that works when Kincaid comes back, but I’m not the one who drafted a slot TE, extended a slot only WR and drafted a guy best suited for big slot. 

[SC STATE NUPE]

Many of you are very disingenuous and extremely bias with your takes. This same crowd ranting about “Cut Coleman” and he was a “trash pick”, is the same crowd that was ready to move on from James Cook and even went as far as saying he’d be working in fast food if not for football. It was some very disrespectful takes in here. It’s quite obvious the kid is not happy how he’s been used. He went about things the wrong way by displaying a lack of effort and showing up late to functions. But they’re not gonna give up on the dude just because Stan in Rochester wants to see him cut and never play again! Hes been productive in this limited offense in the past, so there is talent. Keon is the least of the team’s worries. Can they be adequate enough to at least neutralize the run is the biggest issue!😂

[Fan in Chicago]

12 hours ago, Iverwig said:

My apologies if already posted. This came across my feed yesterday.

 

 

I hope Ocho was serious about making that phone call

[Sierra Foothills]

5 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

Could have sworn that I read a few months back that Josh Allen is the one who told the FO to draft Keon Coleman.

 

How does that get lost in all of this, if the case?

 

Actually this topic has been discussed on this forum ad infinitum. It's been debated heavily.

 

It's tiresome that it's again sprung up for discussion but on a message board where too many people post and not enough people read, discussions are easily lost in the flood of repetitive, indistinguishable takes.

 

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

all I know is to this point that highly thought of WR class has been a giant fail. Just mired in inconsistency and disappointment so far 

 I just want to go out and say I was unanimously crucified basically when I said Marvin Harrison Jr was not my number one wide receiver 

 

I said he was very overrated as someone who got to see him since high school

 

NFL football player not a top five pick

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[Buffalo Ballin]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 I just want to go out and say I was unanimously crucified basically when I said Marvin Harrison Jr was not my number one wide receiver 

 

I said he was very overrated as someone who got to see him since high school

 

NFL football player not a top five pick

Add me along side ya. I was never high on Harrison Jr and thought he was a bust.

 

Reason? Kid got way too much hype over nothing. How in the hell was he gonna be better, or JUST AS GOOD, as his Old Man? There is no way. His OLD MAN is one of the golden standards at NFL WR. Impossible for MH Jr. to match.

 

I was extremely high on Nabers and thought he was the number one WR to draft.

 

Also, Keon Coleman should lose most of his chances to Tyrell Shavers for the rest of the season. If Shavers gets injured then yes, bring Keon back in.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo Ballin

[Sierra Foothills]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 I just want to go out and say I was unanimously crucified basically when I said Marvin Harrison Jr was not my number one wide receiver 

 

I said he was very overrated as someone who got to see him since high school

 

NFL football player not a top five pick

 

As @gonzo1105 said, the whole class has been a disappointment so far.

 

McConkey's been the best. Nabers can't stay healthy. Odunze and Harrison have shown flashes but zero consistency.

 

Brian Thomas had an excellent rookie season.

 

Pearsall, Legette, Polk, Mitchell, McMillan, Baker have all done little or nothing.

 

 

But I guess we should have doubled down.

 

[DaVinci]

  I'm ready coach !

Edited 1 hour ago by DaVinci

[Buffalo716]

22 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

As @gonzo1105 said, the whole class has been a disappointment so far.

 

McConkey's been the best. Nabers can't stay healthy. Odunze and Harrison have shown flashes but zero consistency.

 

Brian Thomas had an excellent rookie season.

 

Pearsall, Legette, Polk, Mitchell, McMillan, Baker have all done little or nothing.

 

 

But I guess we should have doubled down.

 

 

Lots of disappointments for sure ..  hopefully they double down in the next draft